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by Rileybobs
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Homophobic chanting??
Replies: 60
Views: 1770

Re: Homophobic chanting??

bobinho wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:52 pm
No you can’t. Anymore than I can make you not see something that I don’t.
Of course.
by Rileybobs
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Homophobic chanting??
Replies: 60
Views: 1770

Re: Homophobic chanting??

That chant was in response to the sweeping generalisations made towards our fans and the abuse directed at Jay in particular. I can guarantee that chant wouldn’t have been sang otherwise. 2 wrongs don’t make a right, but if they are investigating our fans, then they should be too. They remind me of...
by Rileybobs
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Homophobic chanting??
Replies: 60
Views: 1770

Re: Homophobic chanting??

Ok. But I’m struggling to understand your suggestion that the chant is generally accepted as being ok in this thread? :? I’m not getting that… I don’t think I’ve said that the chant is generally accepted as being ok on here. I said I was surprised that there doesn’t seem to be a universal acceptanc...
by Rileybobs
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Homophobic chanting??
Replies: 60
Views: 1770

Re: Homophobic chanting??

Whilst distasteful this could apply to heterosexuals as I mentioned further up the thread. The same could be said if BJ was used in your quote. It’s not exclusive to one sexuality and you can see what you want to see. I think it will difficult to prove anything with this. Yes but the chant is obvio...
by Rileybobs
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Homophobic chanting??
Replies: 60
Views: 1770

Re: Homophobic chanting??

Rowls wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:38 pm
I see a lot of "whataboutery" regarding the Brighton chants but I don't see any evidence to back up your claim.
Cool. Happy to agree to disagree then 👍🏼
by Rileybobs
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Homophobic chanting??
Replies: 60
Views: 1770

Re: Homophobic chanting??

Rowls wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:35 pm
OK ... can you give examples of the "general tone" of the thread that leads you to this conclusion?
No, just read the thread - I’m sure you’ll see what I mean.
by Rileybobs
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Homophobic chanting??
Replies: 60
Views: 1770

Re: Homophobic chanting??

I think we are, I just think we differ in where the line is (or should be) drawn. The Cardiff v Leeds example above is a prime example of why people struggle with it a little. (Assuming the author means it and I’ve not just had a whoosh moment) It’s pretty obvious to me that ‘you’re getting bummed ...
by Rileybobs
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Homophobic chanting??
Replies: 60
Views: 1770

Re: Homophobic chanting??

Rowls wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:28 pm
I don't think anybody is taking that position here?

Which post are you referring to?
I’m not referring to one post in specific or I would have quoted it. I’m making a remark about the general tone of the thread.
by Rileybobs
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Homophobic chanting??
Replies: 60
Views: 1770

Re: Homophobic chanting??

So we’re not all in agreement that homophobic chanting is wrong then? Surprising.
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weds Games
Replies: 54
Views: 2124

Re: Weds Games

Curtains. Poor for City to not put this to bed over the 3.5 hours.
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weds Games
Replies: 54
Views: 2124

Re: Weds Games

That’s what going down the middle looks like when the keeper doesn’t move. No idea why the comms were so bemused.
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weds Games
Replies: 54
Views: 2124

Re: Weds Games

Got to be a Real win hasn’t it…
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weds Games
Replies: 54
Views: 2124

Re: Weds Games

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:30 pm
He’s definitely changed the game.
Yeah they were lacking directness for the first hour. As good as Grealish is he can be a bit like a crab which isn’t the most effective against a team with every player behind the ball.
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weds Games
Replies: 54
Views: 2124

Re: Weds Games

Bosscat wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:31 pm
Do away goals not count
Yes, but only the same as home goals.
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weds Games
Replies: 54
Views: 2124

Re: Weds Games

City gonna lose on pens.
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12771
Views: 1249951

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

December 23 2020 Calder Vale Holdings Limited take out a £65m loan from MSD Holdings UK Ltd (Charges were filed against Calder Vale holdings and Kettering Capital Limited at Companies House), I believe the cash it provided was used to prove that ALK Capital LLC had funds for the takeover which they...
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12771
Views: 1249951

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

this is what he said "I don't mean to be over-dramatic on it because I can't explain it, but if you knew you would be 'oh my goodness, this is incredible'.” Alan Pace, January 5 2021, introductory press conference – a response to a question about the financial structure of the takeover Thanks for d...
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weds Games
Replies: 54
Views: 2124

Re: Weds Games

Bad week for Arsenal.
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weds Games
Replies: 54
Views: 2124

Re: Weds Games

Funkydrummer wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:45 pm
That Dutch bloke for city is not bad.
Nathan Ake is on the bench.
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12771
Views: 1249951

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I'm sure they are in it to make money and that's a significant motivation. I'd hope that they are also bright enough to realise that the best way of making money is for the club to be successful. In terms of some of the smaller "co-owners" I suspect a reasonable chunk of motivation there is being p...
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12771
Views: 1249951

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I answered this above: I think in Alan’s case most likely the opportunity to be involved in the sport industry and football particularly given what he’s said about his time in Barcelona, the chance to be involved in the best league in the world, help build the brand around it, move it forward (Fore...
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12771
Views: 1249951

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Goliath wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:19 pm
A pint of fosters at the Royal Dyche?
I don’t think Mormons drink, but Fosters is probably weak enough to be exempt.
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weds Games
Replies: 54
Views: 2124

Re: Weds Games

I think City need Doku on here. It’s too one-dimensional at the minute.
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12771
Views: 1249951

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Obviously they’re not going to come out and say it. But in all the interviews Alan & JJ (plus Ball, Williams, etc) have done, the documentary, the shows JJ has done, the social media content, etc etc - nothing has given any suggestion that profit is front and centre of their minds. They certainly h...
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weds Games
Replies: 54
Views: 2124

Re: Weds Games

The standard on show in the Man City v Real Madrid game is immense. City being the most proactive but look very vulnerable at the back. Madrid have a very clever game plan and I can see them scoring again before the night is out.
by Rileybobs
Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12771
Views: 1249951

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I disagree there in the sense I have not seen or heard anything from ALK that discusses them profiting from Burnley as their primary objective. I’ll say this for absolute certain and hopefully it’s a perspective you will consider in this assessment: There are thousands of ways to make money more ea...
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Does it matter?
Replies: 20
Views: 2417

Re: Does it matter?

The Premier League have just reduced tonight’s result to 2-0.
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 4861

Re: Cole Palmer

Not sure City have any issues with PSR though? And if they did, sure they could e found another way of satisfying it without selling one of the English footballs best talents. I’m not entirely sure where Man City stand in regards to PSR, but selling Palmer was more financially beneficial than selli...
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 4861

Re: Chelsea v Everton

beddie wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:29 pm
If they sack Dyche after this I hope Kompany gets on the phone to Billy Mercer.
I don’t think Billy Mercer will have the authority to appoint Kompany.
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 4861

Re: Chelsea v Everton

claptrappers_union wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:26 pm
But none of them were fouls, were they?
No, but two nearly fouls equals a foul, doesn’t it?
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 4861

Re: Chelsea v Everton

claptrappers_union wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:24 pm
Why has the penalty been given?
I think it was given for a culmination of penalty appeals. The ref clearly gave it for the second and took his chances that one of the challenges was a foul.
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 4861

Re: Chelsea v Everton

What a bunch of babies.
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 4861

Re: Chelsea v Everton

What the hell has he given this for?
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 4861

Re: Cole Palmer

As gutting as it is for us to hear we were close to getting him on loan for a season, just imagine how bad it is for City fans imagining Palmer / Foden being their future. Huge error from Pep. Was he not sold because he’s a home grown player so therefore his entire transfer fee counts as a profit a...
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 4861

Re: Cole Palmer

England should build their team around Palmer, and Foden, and Grealish, oh, and Kane, and Madison, and Bellingham.
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fitness
Replies: 71
Views: 3333

Re: Fitness

Foster did look knackered on Saturday, but he’s only just come back from another long lay off. Odobert and Koleosho tend just to drift out of games for me, which I think is often about experience and confidence. As an example Koleosho’s diminishing effectiveness tended to coincide with the games be...
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 4861

Re: Cole Palmer

I read even Tarks said he annoys him in games :lol: :lol: I can believe it. He’s hyperactive and talks a lot, but I wouldn’t say he’s particularly dislikable - at least not to me. Seems to come across like a decent bloke. There are many players in the Premier League who I’d rather see get a slap.
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fitness
Replies: 71
Views: 3333

Re: Fitness

Confidence and nouse, probably. Fitness, no. Maybe, maybe not. Some of our players do noticeably look tired towards the end of games. Without wishing to draw comparison to Dyche’s sides I felt we used to be the opposite and would often not even make a single substitute. Perhaps we play a higher int...
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 4861

Re: Cole Palmer

beddie wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:30 pm
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer keeper.
Why do people dislike him so much? I wouldn’t say he’s particularly ‘not nice’.
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 4861

Re: Cole Palmer

Great finish.
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 4861

Re: Cole Palmer

Wow. Nice work Pickford.
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fitness
Replies: 71
Views: 3333

Re: Fitness

I’m not sure I can see a team lacking fitness being in so many close games at this point of the season. You’d expect us to be struggling to stay in games at the back end of the season, but we’ve actually been in more games of late and even nearly beat Chelsea with 10 men. The problem is in the pers...
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 4861

Re: Cole Palmer

beddie wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:22 pm
Have of effort from us against against Everton and we could have turned them over. They are shocking.
Everton away and Palace at home were probably the poorest opposition we’ve faced this season other than Sheff U who went down to 10 men fairly early.
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 4861

Re: Cole Palmer

Southgate will obviously take him. I can’t ever recall someone in such form being left out of one of his major tournament squads.
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 9374

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

I don't think I am. The quotes from both Mcguiness and Cathro both imply the use of studs as the first touch to give then a slight advantage in being able to play both ways. As soon as you take a touch with the sidefoot it attracts the press from one side, it's a trigger for the press and you then ...
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 9374

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

I don't subscribe either but seem to be able to view the article for some reason. So you're just going to ignore expert professional opinion because it contradicts your own fairly archaic opinion? Here's a few more quotes on there from highly regarded coaches, it also uses example of Raya and Eders...
by Rileybobs
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 9374

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

Here's a better link talking about it. Ironic that the mistake happened against one of the pioneers of the technique. https://theathletic.com/4912608/2023/10/12/sole-foot-tactical-revolution?source=user-shared-article Includes this quote from De Zerbi: 'If you have it to the left, you could not pla...
by Rileybobs
Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tresor
Replies: 114
Views: 10366

Re: Tresor

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:44 pm
Can only think of Chelsea away where the subs have had a meaningful impact on the game. The ones yesterday once again poor.
Fulham at home I guess, but the question there would surely be that Fofana should have started that game.
by Rileybobs
Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Been with your Mrs for 30 years and don’t love her.
Replies: 53
Views: 3156

Re: Been with your Mrs for 30 years and don’t love her.

All very despondent and rightly so but it could have been so different if we had just one player who could score goals. We started the season , and continued through it, without a recognised goal scorer. I am unsure if its true that we chose not to play Luton in that first game but if so it was a m...
by Rileybobs
Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: A tale of two keepers
Replies: 28
Views: 1767

Re: REPORT: A tale of two keepers

We do of course long for Heaton and Pope again, but they were incapable of playing the way we play (and City etc play). The fast distribution, the high defence and sweeper keeper. I’m not convinced having them in our goal this season would have saved us. I think it’s more than likely we’d have pick...