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by Royboyclaret
Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The centenary of our 1st ever title is looming
Replies: 17
Views: 1250

Re: The centenary of our 1st ever title is looming

I would hve loved to have seen Bob Kelly play Had many a conversation with Dad regarding Bob Kelly. He always maintained that Kelly and Jimmy Mac were the two most naturally gifted players ever to play for Burnley. Just imagine a side including Kelly with Tommy Boyle behind him at centre-half. The ...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: lowest number of goals
Replies: 9
Views: 1202

Re: lowest number of goals

sandy richardson wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:45 am
What is the lowest number of goals a club has scored in a season without being relegated?
Leeds scored a mere 28 goals in the '96/'97 PL season, but remarkably finished 11th in the table.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Peter Lorimer battling long term illness in a hospice
Replies: 27
Views: 1126

Re: Peter Lorimer battling long term illness in a hospice

Yes Lorimer was one of the more tolerable Leeds players, and he's only 74 which makes this news even harder to hear, I just hope he and his family manage to enjoy whatever time he has remaining. Before my time but my dad swears he went in goal once after the keeper received his marching orders, is ...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Manchester United April 1957
Replies: 19
Views: 709

Re: Burnley vs Manchester United April 1957

Cheers for that. Anybody know the history of the CFS supports? They are in the stand on the video. Later Ray Pointer ran into one when they weren’t. Not being an engineer I’d guess they took the crowd back a bit and exposed them. Because of Pointers accident were they then wrapped or moved again? H...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Greyhound Racing and Speedway at Towneley 1927
Replies: 15
Views: 802

Re: Greyhound Racing and Speedway at Towneley 1927

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:46 pm
thats very interesting, I cant enlarge the map. Does anyone know what area of towneley the speedway and dog track would be on now.
Wile.....It's all there at the end of the article at the link, the very last sentence.
by Royboyclaret
Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What You Drinking?
Replies: 42
Views: 699

Re: What You Drinking?

Very large whisky & sparkling water.

What a fantastic night.....I was at Anfield in '74 when Ian Brennan scored the winner and it's been a hell of a long wait since then.....but well worth the wait. Brilliant performance to a man.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who is this 50s/60s ex-Claret?
Replies: 87
Views: 2399

Re: Who is this 50s/60s ex-Claret?

Missed all this. Sounds to have been a cracking thread. Certainly a very young looking Len Kinsella, but it's definitely him. As for the now remaining eight, I believe these are the names, all someone has to do is put names to the faces! Think Billy Gaskell is the fair haired lad on the front row, t...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 10footballs - Memorabilia and programmes site
Replies: 7
Views: 575

Re: 10footballs - Memorabilia and programmes site

Only just come across this today http://10footballs.com Superb resources if you're into football programmes and football history. Burnley programmes for a number of games. 1959/60 home and aways cups and friendlies and some interesting international programmes featuring Burnley players of the past,...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9110
Views: 608900

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

brunlea99 wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:36 pm
An outside view on the takeover:

https://twohundredpercent.net/burnley-americans/
Essential reading for every single Burnley fan.

We are Burnley not Manchester United.

Very, very apprehensive.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 1920 player picture help please
Replies: 19
Views: 883

Re: 1920 player picture help please

90B292D0-A85F-4CF8-A927-EDFC5B90B38C.jpeg 3 pictures of players from I presume the 1920/21 league winners. The 2 on the left are Len Smelt and George Halley Anybody any ideas who the player on the right is? It is indeed William Emerson, who signed for us towards the end of the 1921/22 season. He to...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football in Pictures
Replies: 163
Views: 6345

Re: Football in Pictures

Cheers Roy,would Brennan have played with Dobson....I havnt the greatest memory. That's a good question Steve.......There were several near misses, notably in the '73/'74 & '74/'75 seasons, but I think the only season they featured together in the first team was '79/'80 after Dobbo had returned fro...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football in Pictures
Replies: 163
Views: 6345

Re: Football in Pictures

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:23 pm
A boxing day defeat is it Dobbo & Brennan???

Who is the number 10 though ?


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Steve, that's going to be our Boxing Day defeat at Brunton Park in 1980. The Carlisle number 10 is Peter Beardsley scoring one of their goals and our players are Dobbo and David Holt.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: falling out of love with football?
Replies: 102
Views: 3941

Re: falling out of love with football?

Add in top flight clubs simply becoming status symbols for billionaire foreigners/corrupt states. I really enjoy going to watch Colne FC now. Proper sense of community at that level and the clubs are mainly run by volunteers who do it because they love it. "volunteers who do it because they love it...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 7052
Views: 450838

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

the podcast of this discussion is now available - featuring Dr Dan Parnell, Kieran Maguire and Dr Rob Wilson https://shows.acast.com/the-esk-podcasts/episodes/covid-19-the-return-of-football-fans distracted by the notion that there is a player in the EFL who is earning £5.5m a year - just who could...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Rolling Stones....
Replies: 76
Views: 2145

Re: Rolling Stones....

Time Is On My Side.
by Royboyclaret
Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9110
Views: 608900

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I suspect this was a case of putting a few speculative posts together and getting another speculative post. I would guess (and it's entirely a guess) that the earlier reference was to Flood staying on and someone took it to mean Garlick. Must admit to thinking along similar lines over the last few ...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 7052
Views: 450838

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Mail have made a rather dramatic article from this and other analysis by Vysyble - as tends to be their want https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8961547/Manchester-United-course-record-losses-nearly-200million-2020-21-season.html More a dramatic headline than anything else, Chest...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 7052
Views: 450838

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

So, a 40% reduction in Wage bill required at Barcelona with immediate effect.

In theory Messi's salary reduced from £500k per week to £300k.

Good luck with that one.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 7052
Views: 450838

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Another example of how Spanish Law is being used by La Liga giants to help them get through the pandemic induced financial crisis in football - British Law does not come anywhere close to this level of intrusion on legal employment contracts - from the Mail Cash-strapped Barcelona are handed a £342...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9110
Views: 608900

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:53 pm
And I believe sold his shares to Garlick
Well, it looks that way. Mike G previously had 25.2% and now 49.2%.

However, John B also increased his holding from 19.2% to 28.3%, probably as a result of the adjustment in Barry K's holding from 13.7% to around 3%.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9110
Views: 608900

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Here you go, from 2013 https://bit.ly/32KU2KL Clearly there were serious differences between Brendan Flood and Mike Garlick/Clive Holt. To quote Brendan from the link "I don't want to work with them. I won't work with them again, whatever happens." How quickly things change, that quote was from Apr...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RIP Ray Clemence
Replies: 40
Views: 2030

Re: RIP Ray Clemence

That's a shocker.

RIP Ray, top class keeper.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9110
Views: 608900

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Duffer_ wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:00 pm
Is it "right" that MG walks away with £100m (pre tax) after 14 years as a director? Feel free to define "right" however you like.
It's his 49.24% entitlement, if that's what eventually transpires.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9110
Views: 608900

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:46 am
Got lucky with Dyche or did a proper and thorough interview process and picked the best candidate for the job?
You'd like to think the second, Sidney, after all that is his area of expertise. But, as with all such appointments, there was also no doubt an element of good fortune involved.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9110
Views: 608900

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I know one thing though the board need to get this done. Garlick must realise that relegation this season is a distinct possibility, if the club isn't sold its value will plumit with the clubs future. Garlick got lucky with Dyche who as worked miracles to keep us at this level for 5 seasons with su...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9110
Views: 608900

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Wokingclaret wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:38 pm
Yep keep quiet, 17 others are proving otherwise, well so far
Proving otherwise??

Manchester United, the biggest club in the world, are projected to lose over £100million in this financial year. Similar situation at Barcelona and Real Madrid. Burnley will be one of the least badly affected.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9110
Views: 608900

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

How is he handling it well? I get he’s probably your friend but what exactly has he done to bring you to that conclusion? Allowing a club at the end of last season to have a subs bench full of kids? Allowing the best manager we’ve had to spend 1 million? Drag out takeover talks for over a year? My ...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9110
Views: 608900

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Most fans think the longer you stay in the Premier League the more money you have. Which isn’t how it works. The longer you stay, the more it costs. People need to understand that this has been an exceptional year in terms of finances as a result of the pandemic. No chairman could have handled the ...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 9110
Views: 608900

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Top Claret wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:44 pm
He has been a good chairman, although his street cred is now starting to wear thin.
Only "wearing thin" with those people who don't understand the financial difficulties under which our Club has been operating throughout the whole of this year.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tragic story from 100 years ago today with fans killed on way to game
Replies: 6
Views: 827

Re: Tragic story from 100 years ago today with fans killed on way to game

What a sad and tragic story. That was the season, of course, if things had worked out differently, that those lads would have seen us win the First Division title for the first time.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 7052
Views: 450838

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Final observation from me on those Manchester United quarterly results......In the equivalent quarter of 2019 they reported an Operating Profit of £11.0m, replaced in the first financial quarter of 2020 with an Operating Loss of £27.1m. A turnround in just a 12 week period of some £38m. This figure ...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 7052
Views: 450838

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

@KieranMaguire has a look at those q1 results from Manchester United https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1326970080257830913 Interesting quarterly results, which confirm the sneak preview we were given by The esk yesterday evening. Two standout figures, for me, Total Income down from £135.4m t...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: One £20-30 million player every year...
Replies: 59
Views: 2664

Re: One £20-30 million player every year...

What do you call £90m per year? Not far off. Some (sidney, dry youre eyes love!) will deny we pay more than tuppence a week but clearly the fact is there are members of our team already on £75k per week Just to be clear, there are no players at Burnley earning £75k per week, not even close. The wag...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RIP Tony Waiters
Replies: 25
Views: 2177

Re: RIP Tony Waiters

RIP Tony.

A top class goalkeeper who played five times for England whilst at Blackpool. He was kind enough to answer an emergency call from us when Peter Mellor was injured and came out of retirement and played 38 league games for us.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The funny thing about watching light is...
Replies: 7
Views: 523

Re: The funny thing about watching light is...

Pstotto wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:40 pm
For what sense organ and how recreation visceral?
Third visceral or first branchial arch ?
by Royboyclaret
Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley's FA Youth Cup winners
Replies: 33
Views: 1551

Re: Burnley's FA Youth Cup winners

Quicknick wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:01 pm
Burnley 3 Leeds 0?
Correct, O'Neil, Lochhead & Dobson in front of 13,142 fans, less than the previous evening.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Turf Moor
Replies: 48
Views: 3090

Re: Turf Moor

It was only owned by Longside Properties until 2009 at which point Barry Kilby and John Sullivan sold the ground on to Lionbridge, an offshore registered company. In his own words Barry said he was "uncomfortable being landlord and tenant". I thought the Turf and Gawthorpe then returned to it's righ...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 7052
Views: 450838

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

just edited my original post to say that the rebate was as described in the Premier League Handbook - so ours will be £13.4m In which case if our starting point was £130.5m, then the net broadcast income will be virtually the same as the previous financial year (£115m from memory). The only other f...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 7052
Views: 450838

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Norwich City release their 2019/20 accounts - covering a 13 month period like ours will - hoping for a few insights into the Covid impact at the Premier League @KieranMaguire has a peek https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1323918699665985536 The annual report is here https://files.canaries.co....
by Royboyclaret
Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley's FA Youth Cup winners
Replies: 33
Views: 1551

Re: Burnley's FA Youth Cup winners

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:37 pm
Fantastic performance on the night from the lads, and a fantastic atmosphere to go with it, one of my favourite nights being a claret, anybody remember the attendance that night ?
13,840.

Some 800 more than turned up for the league game against Leeds the following day.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Turf Moor
Replies: 48
Views: 3090

Re: Turf Moor

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:53 pm
Clearly been having far to much fun these last 7 years :shock:
To be fair it's been a decent enough time on the pitch.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Turf Moor
Replies: 48
Views: 3090

Re: Turf Moor

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:26 pm
The club and ground are one entity, it was purchased back a couple of years ago from the company created by Kilby etc.

Why, want to buy it?
Time flies, Sidney.....Now seven years since the Turf was returned to it's rightful ownership in 2013 from Lionbridge.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Claret photo help.
Replies: 31
Views: 1881

Re: Claret photo help.

That 1961/62 season was a quite remarkable one from our point of view. Even after that home defeat to United (game 35 of 42) we were still at the top of the First Division. But those final 7 games had to be played in the last two weeks remaining of the season and it all became a bit too much, partic...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Claret photo help.
Replies: 31
Views: 1881

Re: Claret photo help.

v United? I've not been able to find any reference to the club's tribute to Nobby, suggesting the photo is a game v United, so sticking my neck out. That bloke messing with Towers is John Talbut. Nobby was only 5'-6", that makes Towers 6'-12". And anyway, the studs are too low for Nobby. Can someon...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 7052
Views: 450838

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Chester Perry wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:36 am
@SwissRamble looks at the 2019/20 financial results of AS Roma

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... 5923489792
Some frightening numbers there for AS Roma, including a Net Loss of Euros 204m.

Yet another example of a top European club that's financially out of control.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley's FA Youth Cup winners
Replies: 33
Views: 1551

Re: Burnley's FA Youth Cup winners

https://www.uptheclarets.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/youths-1968.jpg That's him on the very left of the back row I think. The pic is at Bramall Lane in front of what was then the main stand which is opposite today's main stand. Back Row - Pat Dooney, Steve Kindon, Wilf Wrigley, Gerry McEvoy, Edd...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ralph Coates - Spurs Website Article
Replies: 30
Views: 1774

Re: Ralph Coates - Spurs Website Article

The best player I have seen in Claret and blue and I have seen a few. I have often wondered how Ralph would have done in the 72/73 and 73/74 teams. I reckon he would have made an excellent team into an outstanding team. He did well at Spurs but I think he would have been even better if he stayed. K...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So by paying for our season tickets will we get free ones in 2021 2022 season
Replies: 114
Views: 4413

Re: So by paying for our season tickets will we get free ones in 2021 2022 season

You are missing the point Macca in my opinion. The cut is largely irrelevant. The club employs people from the community it exists in. They raise the profile of the community they exist in and there are strong links to the area being as successful as it has been when it comes to investment in busin...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ralph Coates - Spurs Website Article
Replies: 30
Views: 1774

Re: Ralph Coates - Spurs Website Article

Ralph was hardly prolific when it came to goalscoring and always appeared happiest when setting up opportunities for his teammates. However, when he did score, they were often very special goals and none moreso than in the home game against Liverpool in April'66. It was a game to remember and Willie...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ralph Coates - Spurs Website Article
Replies: 30
Views: 1774

Re: Ralph Coates - Spurs Website Article

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:20 pm
Article published today with the comments from our club. I suppose it’s who you believe, Adamson or Revie.
So Adamson was accepting there had been "an inquiry" in May'71 even if not an official offer?