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by Chester Perry
Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

This is a surprising twist on the return of fans from next week - particularly when you consider the Covid protocols - from the Telegraph EFL clubs may struggle to welcome back fans because 'stadium safety officers are still on furlough' Rick Parry, the league's chairman, says Government announcemen...
by Chester Perry
Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Missed this earlier in the month from Linklaters - Sporting Links blog - examining if football is seriously considering a return to the financial markets and if so will SPAC's be the vehicle for doing so - personally think SPACS will only be involved on the purchase/reversal of the big clubs in Euro...
by Chester Perry
Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

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So this tweet got me a bit fired up this morning - and as you all know I quite like Andy Holt and the way he goes about things https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/1331170780554682371 What this contains is the public misconception of what the Premier League has and underlines just how poorly Richard...
by Chester Perry
Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Sheffield United's owners add a 4th club to the stable - https://twitter.com/SheffieldUnited/sta ... 4901478402

The number of clubs doing this is now ridiculous it needs to be brought to an end, though I suspect that both bidders for our club would like to do something similar
by Chester Perry
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Spurs announce their 2019/20 Financial results several months early so they can put pressure on the government to allow fans back into grounds citing a potential irrecoverable loss of £150m if it does not happen Official statement https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/2020/november/financial-result...
by Chester Perry
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The battle between agents and the reforms that FIFA are looking to implement (with support from global players union FIFAPRO) takes an interesting twist as agents use their most famous clients to challenge FIFA's right to make money from their image https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/13309740919...
by Chester Perry
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Well this took a little longer to raise it's head than expected - news that the Government is prepared to let up to 4000 fans into games as of Dec 2nd was greeted with relief by many, yet that number is far from an economic viability for all Premier League clubs - remember all those EFL clubs that l...
by Chester Perry
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The battle between agents and the reforms that FIFA are looking to implement (with support from global players union FIFAPRO) takes an interesting twist as agents use their most famous clients to challenge FIFA's right to make money from their image https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/133097409196...
by Chester Perry
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Telegraph are reporting that West Brom are the subject of an American takeover bid - significantly this is the 2nd Chinese owned club in the Premier League that has American suitors (Southampton being the other). Equally as significant would be the level of influence American owners would exert ...
by Chester Perry
Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Martin Samuel hits the nail on the head in regard to the recent whines from All the Champions League clubs re Package A in the Domestic TV rights - The Saturday 12:30 slot - in the Mail - Klopp being the last of the managers to do so at the weekend MARTIN SAMUEL: The £900m TV problem Jurgen Klopp re...
by Chester Perry
Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The guys at SportsProMedia are at it again with another in depth and lengthy series, this time looking at the world in 2022 - Part one has been out for a while now - I had been wondering why there was such a gap between instalments, but there is an awful lot to take in and each installment takes qu...
by Chester Perry
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Football Today Podcast looks at the Premier Leagues proposal for international transfers post Brexit

https://www.footballtodaypodcast.com/po ... -transfers
by Chester Perry
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Interesting piece from ESPN about International scouting during Covid Diary of a scout: How COVID-19 has impacted the search for new talent Football is largely back in various forms across the globe, but the COVID-19 pandemic continues to disrupt how things normally operate in the sport. Club scouts...
by Chester Perry
Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 3788
Views: 244634

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

What i don't understand is the £200m price. Sounds a lot but when you add up the value of the squad, I think that totals much more. Then you have the Gawthorp and Turf Moor assets. Add to that, the premium for securing an established Prem Club. Are we being given away or is Mr Garlick just selling ...
by Chester Perry
Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Celtic announce their 2019/20 financial results press statement http://www.celticfc.net/news/18682 full financial report (note these are not the full accounts - there is nothing lodged at Companies House and unlikely to be for some time yet (history suggests February next year) https://cdn.celticfc...
by Chester Perry
Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Spurs announce their 2019/20 Financial results several months early so they can put pressure on the government to allow fans back into grounds citing a potential irrecoverable loss of £150n if it does not happen Official statement https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/2020/november/financial-results...
by Chester Perry
Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 3788
Views: 244634

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

So a bit like Fenway are doing? They seem a bit more clued up than the previous owners, who were also American. Why does an owner need an attachment to a club in advance? Fenway's involvement came because one of their Executives was a mad-keen Liverpool fan and he spelt out to them the opportunity ...
by Chester Perry
Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:47 am
Chester Perry, does that mean I should steer clear of anything related?
sorry Frank not following the line of thought - it is getting late
by Chester Perry
Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

This is interesting form John WallStreet at Sportico - talking about the financial impact that a 2nd Lockdown (Shelter in Place in US vernacular) could have on the big 4 US sports and their franchise values - remembering that: 1- there has been a run to sport Investment for Private Equity and of cou...
by Chester Perry
Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

AS we deal with the prospect of new Investors/owners in our club and the fact that candidates must first clear the Premier Leagues Owners and Directors test - the same test Newcastle Saudi's suitors walked away from (and is now the subject of legal arbitration proceedings) this is a timely opinion p...
by Chester Perry
Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Meanwhile in France and as predicted the French Ligue are in talks with Canal+ about taking over their domestic rights that Mediapro have stopped paying for in an effort to renegotiate their 4 year year deal which still as 45 months to run - from SportsProMedia Report: Ligue 1 rights could return to...
by Chester Perry
Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The vultures are at the door I must confess that I am a little surprised that all the Serie A clubs appear to heave agreed to a Private Equity deal for a share of their commercial operations - times must be very tight for them financially, they have never previously agreed on anything - from SportsP...
by Chester Perry
Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

An absolutely fascinating "Groundsmen" podcast from Are You Not Entertained - talking first about the Wrexham takeover and the maths around it and the documentary making it a self financed proposition - it is about the story, then moves onto a discussion about how data is the key for rights owners, ...
by Chester Perry
Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 3788
Views: 244634

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Is this true ? This could be disastrous as there’s a very real possibility we could be cut a drift at the bottom by early Jan . Almost beggars belief Could will be with the agreement/request of the bidders - I assume they will have differing targets and do not want, "unwanted" new players on the bo...
by Chester Perry
Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 3788
Views: 244634

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Sunderland are currently owned by Stewart Donald although he is doing his utmost to sell the club. You are right on the owners & directors test though, the FL are far too lax and nothing like as stringent as the PL. Have you missed the news of an agreed sale last week Tony The Guardian is reporting...
by Chester Perry
Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 3788
Views: 244634

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:39 pm
Does this mean it might be a good strategy to get relegated so the dodgy investors can get hold of the club, pump us full of money and then get us promoted to the Premier League who wont be able to do a thing about it?
obviously carries risks re getting promoted back
by Chester Perry
Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Scoreboard colums from the Financial Times with a feature on why Ryan Reynolds has bought Wrexham Ryan Reynolds’s viral content play at Wrexham football club SAMUEL AGINI NOVEMBER 21, 2020 “Nothing says I’m thinking about you and your horse, as much as Ifor Williams trailers,” intoned Ryan Reyno...
by Chester Perry
Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Rangers have announced their 2019/20 Financial results (but not released the accounts yet - as is now becoming the norm) Club statement https://www.rangers.co.uk/article/annual-report-and-accounts-and-notice-of-2020-agm/1RoXtgfv66hyiAbwnX8Eff 2020 Annual report https://assets.ctfassets.net/39646iezd...
by Chester Perry
Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bands beginning with 'B'
Replies: 109
Views: 1477

Re: Bands beginning with 'B'

for those in their 50's this was a a popular video in the Angels once of a day - Belouis Some https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_ngHa4IUFo
by Chester Perry
Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 3788
Views: 244634

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Out of interest, how would a promoted club fare if their owner failed the Premier league test ? The Premier League cannot block existing owners so long as they do not do anything which would lead to a breach of the rules, It is why they have tried to get the EFL to toughen up their test. It could b...
by Chester Perry
Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 3788
Views: 244634

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

or, maybe they've already got news that the other bid isn't finding it easy to satisfy ODT? Happy Place, Happy Place, Turf Moor, everyone. ;) UTC With the Saudi's back sniffing around Newcastle United, and that club in the middle of arbitration proceedings with the Premier League over the collapse ...
by Chester Perry
Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 3788
Views: 244634

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I hope ALK win. It just feels a lot better fit. Crazy spending would bring doomsday for us within 15 years. Significant spending, youth development and many upgrades to the Turf could future proof us for decades. If we have learnt anything in the 28 years since the Premier League started it is that...
by Chester Perry
Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

almost certainly not the first time this has happened to a football club - Manchester United have been subject to a concerted cyber attack

https://www.bt.com/sport/news/2020/nove ... ber-attack
by Chester Perry
Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

This is almost laughable, Coventry City - owned by SISU, are complaining to the press that the government is letting football down, by excluding elite football from it's winter sports bailout. Of course the government's role in all this has been pathetic too - from the Mail 'You have abandoned us': ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

@Marcotti with an interesting interview with AC Milan CEO Ivan Gazidis (who I have not been complimentary about) for ESPN - covers the attempts ro regenerate AC Mialn and Serie A as well as looking at the UEFA club competition/Super League Picture Milan CEO Gazidis on Serie A's rise and how to emula...
by Chester Perry
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

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Royboyclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:13 pm
Little wonder that Mr.Deeney was in no hurry to join his friend Sean at Burnley, with the prospect of halfing his salary.
ah yes the joys of not having a relegation clause
by Chester Perry
Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

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supporters Direct Europe are launched a series of podcasts yesterday entitled "For a better football" - they will be released on Tuesdays and Thursdays https://sdeurope.eu/introducing-the-for-a-better-football-podcast-miniseries/ the first one with European Leagues Deputy General Secretary Alberto ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

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Academic paper on Covid-19 and the return of fans - co writers include @KieranMaguire and Dr Dan Parnell - it argues that in most strata football can only survive with fans in attendance and concludes that "Football is nothing without fans" lots of charts and diagrams so linked rather than transcri...
by Chester Perry
Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Venkys
Replies: 36
Views: 2382

Re: Venkys

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:26 pm
Rovers fans should be used to having their club reliant on an owners money.
First Walker.
Then the Trust.
Now the Venky's.

Most of them won't know any other way.
It started over a hundred years earlier with Blackburn Olympic, rovers quickly followed - that town knows no other way
by Chester Perry
Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 3788
Views: 244634

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Garlick lived on the next street at the time to John Jackson who became chairman. He lived on Pasturegate. I knew where Andy Holt was from but didn't know he was in the same school year at BGS as Garlick. A lot of good people, including website editors, came via that school. :D came across the info...
by Chester Perry
Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 3788
Views: 244634

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Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:10 am
Mike Garlick was born and raised in Burnley.
and a product of Burnley Grammar school in the same year as Andy Holt owner/Chairman of Accrington Stanley (who lived on the Stoops Estate)
by Chester Perry
Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Episode 1 of the Football Uncovered Podcast looks at "Blackburn Rovers - The incredible story of the Venky's turbulent ownership" and yes they have been in charge for 10 years https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/blackburn-rovers-incredible-story-venkys-turbulent/id1537818595?i=1000498315250 Episo...
by Chester Perry
Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

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MP's continue to try and make political capital out of football - this latest outburst should be met with the same requests for who government came up with it's strategy for saving the arts and winter sport or even how it has made such a hash of testing or PPE. the double standards are laughable, th...
by Chester Perry
Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 3788
Views: 244634

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Have the FFP limits not been relaxed during Covid? yes and no - season 2018/19 will be assessed as a combination with season 2020/21 the rules will still apply apart from 2018/19/20 as a stand alone assessment - that was designed to give clubs the chance to re-align their finances from last seasons...
by Chester Perry
Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Simon Chadwick highlights that just because a rich minor royal from the UAE wants to buy tour club, their lack of proximity to the power (and associated accusations of human rights abuses) does not necessarily mean their own interests are not without concern - in this case Derby County bidder Sheikh...
by Chester Perry
Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It has taken a while but increasingly, those in the media that specialise in football business and finance are asking questions about the government's insistence that the Premier League bails out football, when it is bailing out everyone else - this thread from @SportingIntel captures the mood https...
by Chester Perry
Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 3788
Views: 244634

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randomclaret2 wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:11 pm
How exactly did Abramovich come by his fortune ?
It all came out in a court case when he split with his business partner - this Telegraph article gives a summary

https://outline.com/KUwMWM
by Chester Perry
Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

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That last story about the Saudi's coming back in for Newcastle came only hours after this about the Saudi's looking after things in their own backyard - 'Night of the beating': details emerge of Riyadh Ritz-Carlton purge https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/19/saudi-accounts-emerge-of-ritz-car...
by Chester Perry
Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5925
Views: 396751

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Newcastle confirm that they have entered arbitration proceedings with the Premier League over the failed takeover this summer as they react to what they term leaks from the Premier League LATEST NEWS19th November 2020 Club statement Newcastle United has issued the following club statement on Thursd...
by Chester Perry
Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 3788
Views: 244634

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Goobs wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:28 pm
Late thirties, good in the air, extra shirt sales, and expanded media coverage, what's not to like 😁
no doubt signed before FIFA introduce a rule that a player who has headed a ball 10 times in a game must be subbed - even with 5 subs we would be down to just the keeper before half time :oops: