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by Chester Perry
Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Yes, but they are including it in with the "dodgy payment" money, when it's quite clearly standard practice. just re-read that section - they are illustrating (rather clumsily) that Benfica's recording of a book profit of Euro 23m (It should have been over Euro 30m because so much of the deal they ...
by Chester Perry
Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Why are they including amortization in it though ? It was part of the fee paid by Wolves - they have no control over who the money is then distributed to by the selling club. The really interesting thing here is we do not know from this story if Wolves also paid Gestifute fees for these transaction...
by Chester Perry
Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Hi Chester. Read a piece t’other day that Dafabet are back involved with Burnley. I’ve been without internet most of the week and expected to find news of the deal on here. Can you enlighten me? Cheers. It was covered here http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=49803 we also h...
by Chester Perry
Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

OffthePitch.com with a piece on Gestifute/Jorge Mendes - for the moment it is visible here https://offthepitch.com/a/deeper-look-gestifutes-transactions-involving-portuguese-clubs-following-fabio-silvas-noteworthy and worth looking at for the table of transactions on there - the text is transcribe h...
by Chester Perry
Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

BienSport have been threatening for some time that the level of Broadcast Piracy in the Middle East North Africa region was making sports rights untenable - well now they have delivered a major shock to the Bundesliga by walking out on negotiations for a 5 year extension of the current deal - from B...
by Chester Perry
Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leeds goalkeeper
Replies: 25
Views: 2361

Re: Leeds goalkeeper

I seriously doubt they could afford them and in any case those players are way too good for Leeds and are playing for two of the top teams in Europe. Not sure on your football knowledge but surprised youd even suggest that Still got around £50m left according to the owner - they have factored TV ea...
by Chester Perry
Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Since March Brighton have probably been the most accessible and open club, media wise, in the Premier League, they have also benefitted from having a owner who is a lifelong fan and a self made billionaire - his family connections with the club go back a couple of generations too. So it is interesti...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is Dyche fighting his battle on his own
Replies: 153
Views: 5920

Re: Is Dyche fighting his battle on his own

Cheers both, that was who I guessed but I hadn't seen anything. The 2nd one was the worst - though most seemed to have missed it, absolutely no need for it and a marked difference from the Chairman's approach https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8720697/Burnley-prepared-eventual-depar...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is Dyche fighting his battle on his own
Replies: 153
Views: 5920

Re: Is Dyche fighting his battle on his own

That was all a bit too balanced. I missed this part entirely, what's it in reference to? Flood's recent pieces in the Daily Mail - he has just launched a global Masters Degree course in Sports Management which has featured extensively in the trade and educational press but this got mentions in the ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is Dyche fighting his battle on his own
Replies: 153
Views: 5920

Re: Is Dyche fighting his battle on his own

Not to over simplify it but: Garlick has publicly stated his "ambition" every year is to finish 17th in the PL. Dyche has publicly stated his ambition is to improve the team every year. That would mean 9th place. There's a long way, and a big difference financially, between those two ambitions. Gar...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The American grip on European football appears to be growing, here is news that Parma look to be the latest acquisition (reports in the last 24 have linked Burnley, Southampton and West Ham with American bidders) - from the Financial Times Parma football club poised for sale to America’s Krause fam...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Charlton Athletic - frying pan into fire?
Replies: 113
Views: 9131

Re: Charlton Athletic - frying pan into fire?

Missed this yesterday - the courts make life at Charlton yet more complicated - from the BBC Charlton Athletic: Paul Elliott granted sale injunction of League One club By Simon Stone BBC Sport Last updated on17 September 202017 September 2020. Businessman Paul Elliott has succeeded in his appeal to ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is Dyche fighting his battle on his own
Replies: 153
Views: 5920

Re: Is Dyche fighting his battle on his own

There are a number of things to consider here and I am not denying that Dyche appears frustrated Dyche and the players front up to the media because they contractually obliged to under the terms of the broadcast deals Dyche knows all the issues: contracts; squad size/age; injuries; transfer window a...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Telegraph with more of the demands that the Premier League are putting on the EFL before they agree to a rescue package - as the clock keeps on ticking Premier League wants EFL to fall into line with curtailment rule before granting bailout BEN RUMSBY SEPTEMBER 18, 2020 The Premier League wants ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cancelling Christmas
Replies: 21
Views: 1479

Re: Cancelling Christmas

dermotdermot wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:49 am
I’m all for it. It would be such a relief to postpone it until next year. Everything else has been cancelled so let’s go for it. It would be just so nice to not have to think about turkeys, trees, etc. for just one year.
surely a bit early for a bit of Ebenezer Scrooge
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Macclesfield wound up
Replies: 34
Views: 2074

Re: Macclesfield wound up

I can see Wigan joining them too As I have said previously that appears to be more the doing of the Administrators than anyone else and that their actions were more akin to Liquidators rather than administrators - Just what is it about Leeds that has given football so many ****hole adminstrators/ex...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Macclesfield wound up
Replies: 34
Views: 2074

Re: Macclesfield wound up

There is still a glimmer of hope for Macclesfield it seems (as long as they don't have the same mess has Bury did) from the Telegraph Macclesfield Town attract interest from multiple potential investors JAMES DUCKER SEPTEMBER 17, 2020 Macclesfield Town are attracting interest from multiple potential...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Martin Samuel launches an impassioned defence for the money that swills around football MARTIN SAMUEL: Money wasn't killing football, it's what made it so much fun... the next time someone begins lecturing on the obscenity of Chelsea's spending or Aubameyang's new contract, just tell them to shut up...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Premier League are starting to play hardball with the EFL over a bailout according to this report in the Mail - if it is to believed you have to wonder where that leaves parachute payments and more importantly the competitiveness of newly promoted teams Premier League clubs say they will provide...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Sheffield United - Match Thread
Replies: 495
Views: 19857

Re: Burnley v Sheffield United - Match Thread

joey13 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:57 pm
Stop making sense
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by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spurs afer Ings
Replies: 14
Views: 1705

Re: Spurs afer Ings

Even if we did (which we didn't), we'd have got that when he then went to Southampton, it doesn't last for all future moves :lol: Are you sure https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36165363 The way the the follow through of sell on works means we should have got 20% of the profit Liverpool made on t...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Sheffield United - Match Thread
Replies: 495
Views: 19857

Re: Burnley v Sheffield United - Match Thread

Harry Potts way shut to traffic - normal match procedure - but not a happy rush hour in that area tonight
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: More betting sponsorship at Burnley
Replies: 24
Views: 763

Re: More betting sponsorship at Burnley

I must admit, the likes of Chelsea with a single mega sponsor doesnt half result in cleaner branding in their ground, whereas out variety of sponsor boards can look a little Football League at times. From the United Perspective it is the cost of managing the partnership, public confusion as to who ...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: More betting sponsorship at Burnley
Replies: 24
Views: 763

Re: More betting sponsorship at Burnley

Coming soon, Noodle partners, official ride-on lawnmower, and garage door partners. Just as Manchester United have decided that Regional sponsor/marketing partners are no longer the way to go - they find a better return from global partners - this is partly because everyone is at it, even the Leagu...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spurs afer Ings
Replies: 14
Views: 1705

Re: Spurs afer Ings

Whilst Southampton have had cash flow issues - I do not think Spurs have enough to buy Ings at a reasonable market rate- shame as the flow of money would see some come our way
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Announce ETORO As New Partner
Replies: 14
Views: 2298

Re: Burnley Announce ETORO As New Partner

I'd heard there were problems with LoveBet - is that reduction per annum? yes - this season and next according to the report, though I suspect it was a rebate for last season and they have leveled it out over the next 2 years as a favour - The newly announced China TV deal should help, but keep hav...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

If you ever need convincing that finance is possibly the biggest single topic in football these days, then look at this non-story which is doing the rounds - from the Mail Billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov DENIES Russian reports that he is launching a takeover bid for Manchester United... with former Br...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Football Today Podcast looks at the growing close relationships between super agents and networks in football - including Jorge Mendes and Wolves

https://www.footballtodaypodcast.com/po ... and-wolves
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Simon Chadwick is (inevitably) looking at the bigger China/Premier League/UK Gov East/West Geo-political picture

https://twitter.com/Prof_Chadwick/statu ... 7728663554
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

the Premier League's official statement on that China TV deal - it is likely to be on significantly reduced terms which will be used by PPTV/Suning to support their case in their rumoured legal proceedings Premier League agrees partnership in China with Tencent Sports 17 Sep 2020 Premier League Shar...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

That didn't take too long - The Premier League has announced a new Chinese TV Partner for the current season only - from the Financial Times Premier League secures 1-year China broadcast deal with Tencent MURAD AHMED SEPTEMBER 17, 2020 The English Premier League has secured a new broadcast deal with...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The EFL are still pushing ahead with their we need financial assistance message - the Rick Parry is (as he is want) being a bit more considered in his message - I personally think that the Premier League will wait until after October the 12th (transfer deadline in England and there are still picking...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Announce ETORO As New Partner
Replies: 14
Views: 2298

Re: Burnley Announce ETORO As New Partner

Should help with the reported £250k pa that LoveBet have reduced the shirt sponsorship by, who knows may even have replaced it completely
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Claret tony
Replies: 46
Views: 4831

Re: Claret tony

playback here https://talksport.com/radio/listen-agai ... 600299000/ seems confident about tonight
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The EFL are still trying to ramp the pressure up on th Premier League to bail them out - from the Guardian Football League rings alarm for Premier League to help save clubs from ruin - EFL says time running out to prevent clubs going bankrupt - Proposals being discussed with Premier League for finan...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Interesting opinion piece from SportsProMedia - suggesting that it is likely that more investors are looking to move into football (this article covers two stories that I posted last week) - it certainly seems to be what we are witnessing Jamie Gardner | Capital and control will be critical for club...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

FIFA has put a number on the cost to the global football economy from Covid so far - from the Guardian 'It’s a huge number': Fifa believes football has lost £11.1bn to Covid - Figure ‘covers the football economy in its entirety’ - European clubs have lost most but Latin America badly affected Paul M...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

I have already posted about this. but now the English media are finally catching on - from the Telegraph Premier League clubs fear rebate from overseas broadcasters if matches continue to be moved JEREMY WILSON SEPTEMBER 16, 2020 Premier League clubs fear that continuing the September model of movin...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

the Guardian are reporting of a 2nd bid for West Ham - apparently turned down - and the price is really quite strange for a club that doesn't own it's own stadium and is as yet unable to raise season tickets to a price where the revenue matches the size of the ground they do use US consortium see s...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche on Tarkowski
Replies: 138
Views: 7089

Re: Dyche on Tarkowski

Interesting Andy, is that due to the hits all clubs have experienced due to Covid? Hard to get a sense of how much other clubs have been impacted by the pandemic. I don't know much about Leicester but i got the sense their owners were one of the more wealthy in the league. King Power have taken a b...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

the Guardian are reporting of a 2nd bid for West Ham - apparently turned down - and the price is really quite strange for a club that doesn't own it's own stadium and is as yet unable to raise season tickets to a price where the revenue matches the size of the ground they do use US consortium see se...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Freeports in the UK
Replies: 28
Views: 1037

Re: Freeports in the UK

KateR wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:55 pm
the town could do more than it does do to improve, but that's a different story.
Of that we are in complete agreement
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Freeports in the UK
Replies: 28
Views: 1037

Re: Freeports in the UK

do you see any upside or is it all doom and gloom and a resounding no from you, that they should not even be considered? When replying could you advise if you feel all the Freeports within the EU should be shutdown, due to these thoughts as part of the downside? I suspect there is no real option, f...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Freeports in the UK
Replies: 28
Views: 1037

Re: Freeports in the UK

Weirdly the Freeports were mentioned in Nolans new film Tenet and it pretty much says what you've said. That's the extent of my knowledge though :lol: Should also say that there is a lot of fraud and other "white collar" crime associated with freeports given that in a number of cases they have repl...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Freeports in the UK
Replies: 28
Views: 1037

Re: Freeports in the UK

I've read about the possibility of them being set up in the UK post Brexit, ten at least. Are they good for a particular area or do they just lead to bad working conditions and poor wages? believed to be one of the primary reasons for the Saudi Interest in Newcastle United Freeports mean no Customs...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5202
Views: 369606

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

This is being seen in some quarters as the government still pressing ahead with an October return for spectators in some form in elite football - I see it as a well constructed piece that allows for any outcome the government decides https://twitter.com/Ollie_Bayliss/status/1305610525859024897 The ...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 2888
Views: 302576

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

A release clause is just that, a release clause and yet again we play silly games (potentially putting off the other party to do business with us at all) It also gets the player out into the media identifying their worth to other clubs there have been a whole host of transactions across Europe this...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley in crisis
Replies: 105
Views: 8428

Re: Burnley in crisis

FactualFrank wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:20 pm
Lodgers for Codgers.
actually a refugee, but he might be on a double play to bounce his earnings - all to show an MP up which to be fair is not the worst reason, but not the best either
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley in crisis
Replies: 105
Views: 8428

Re: Burnley in crisis

kentonclaret wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:15 pm
Many things come across as quite disturbing.

Gary Lineker making headline news that he has accepted a £400k a year pay cut.

If you see him on the pavement outside BBC Television Centre spare a few coppers so he can buy a packet of crisps. :lol:
It is why he is taking in a lodger
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley in crisis
Replies: 105
Views: 8428

Re: Burnley in crisis

On a basic salary? I'll bow to your expertise but for me. A manager has to earn more than the employee otherwise the entire structure has broken down. There has to be a pyramid system. No wonder players have the power they have. I can't imagine managing an employee earning more than me. Defeats the...