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by Chester Perry
Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Issues on Up the Clarets
Replies: 8
Views: 718

Re: Issues on Up the Clarets

I don't think I have ever seen Claude AI or Claude [Bot] on this board - though I do not always look

I have commented before that since the launch of various AI apps that viewing activity on certain threads has gone through the roof - if anything it seems to generate more views in a vicious spiral
by Chester Perry
Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?
Replies: 37
Views: 1279

Re: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?

The article reads a bit like it's by someone who's never been to Haringey but that's by the by. Spurs make a lot of money from tourists, particularly there to see Son, so you can see why it's an issue. In terms of concessions though, it's a bit more complicated than just looking at the mismatch bet...
by Chester Perry
Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Issues on Up the Clarets
Replies: 8
Views: 718

Re: Issues on Up the Clarets

Like you say CT the problems have been there for days I have noticed that there has been a significant uptick in the number of visitors to the site recently - well over 600 currently but yesterday lunch it was over 1,200 the other thing I am noticing is the increase in what I can only assume is bot ...
by Chester Perry
Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12778
Views: 1267402

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I've said before but I'm a bit surprised there has been much discussion on the minutiae of structural issues like shareholding and little on the meaning of the accounts going forward.. From any perspective, this is a problematic set of accounts. Not least because it doesn't include almost £40 milli...
by Chester Perry
Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?
Replies: 37
Views: 1279

Re: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?

It is probably worth putting this here too - the trend of non tv income at our club

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by Chester Perry
Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?
Replies: 37
Views: 1279

Re: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?

The article in question is one of a number that I have been posting on the MMT recently covering the general dislocation between traditional/legacy approach of fandom and running of clubs and the the ever more desperate search for revenues for those who haven't seen the one discussed in the OP you c...
by Chester Perry
Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Legacy Fans v Corporate sensibilities - The Athletic picks up the baton The new Premier League culture war: Corporate interests vs ‘authentic’ fans https://theathletic.com/5416265/2024/04/16/premier-league-fans-corporate-culture/ Jonathan Wilson is the next writer to pick up on this theme from The ...
by Chester Perry
Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Been thinking more about this. Doesn't mean all clubs have same effective cap limit. Depends on multiplier used on base figure, some clubs may not have suffcient revenue to spend up to cap. Does mean cap not dependent on each individual clubs revenue, which is difficult to police as we've seen. Cou...
by Chester Perry
Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

While this is better than B-teams, I am not sure that this is all that helpful to the National League if fans react in the same way as those in the EFL have done to the EFL Trophy. Overall it just feels like an F.U. to the EFL from The Athletic Premier League and National League in talks over new cu...
by Chester Perry
Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:45 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

This story about DAZN being upset with The Bundesliga over the awarding of a premium rights package in which DAZN believed that they had substantially outbid Sky for has been running for a while now. It seems that DAZN have chosen to overlook a crucial point - they failed to provide the necessary fi...
by Chester Perry
Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
Replies: 198
Views: 14158

Re: Nottingham Forest tweet

While much of this attitude is known to Burnley fans it may surprise those of many other clubs - a lot of this has been know for a long time and yet this man was and is deemed fit and proper to own and be a director of football clubs by the games authorities both here and internationally - that has ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: QPR v Leeds
Replies: 59
Views: 2840

Re: QPR v Leeds

ElectroClaret wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:48 pm
Leicester up.
for a third time having gained advantage via their financial shenanigans - yet people only talk about Manchester City and Chelsea
by Chester Perry
Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Following that second reading of the Football Governance Bill on Tuesday - Sports Minister Stuart Andrew talks to the Price of Football Podcast in a special edition. I still see a lot of mis-information and populism in the progress of this bill and wonder how a regulator can ever meet the expectati...
by Chester Perry
Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

We were initially led to believe it would be this coming winter, but it looks like being sooner than that, or does it? from The Telegraph Manchester City’s 115 charges: Premier League says hearing ‘in near future’ Richard Masters says ‘a date has been set and the case will resolve itself at some poi...
by Chester Perry
Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Next summer will see FIFA decamp to North America for the first of what could yet be 3 consecutive years (Club World Cup, World Cup and potentially the Women's World Cup) - anyone still think the US market is not important to football. Broadcast arrangements for the latter two are more established b...
by Chester Perry
Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12778
Views: 1267402

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

so the first Asset Match auction closed today - no shares were traded (that I know of) the 2nd such auction has commenced immediately with a closing date of July 26th 2024 - the documents associated with the listing have not changed. https://www.assetmatch.com/app/OurCompanies/CompanyProfile?company...
by Chester Perry
Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC are members of The Union of European Clubs - and have a seat on it's executive board
Replies: 1
Views: 467

Re: Burnley FC are members of The Union of European Clubs - and have a seat on it's executive board

I actually found out about the club's involvement through Miguel Delaney's weekly email newsletter - Reading the game this is what it said The clubs underneath the elite find their voice Amid so much jostling between the big clubs, and three of the usual names preparing for the Champions League semi...
by Chester Perry
Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC are members of The Union of European Clubs - and have a seat on it's executive board
Replies: 1
Views: 467

Burnley FC are members of The Union of European Clubs - and have a seat on it's executive board

Who knew? Executive Director Michael Smith is the representative, elected at their first General Assembly yesterday from Malta Football Dr Joseph Muscat elected to Union of European Clubs executive board on behalf of MP L https://archive.ph/VvF36 learn about the organisation blacklisted by UEFA and ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Football Governance Bill passed its 2nd stage tonight in Parliament - though it seems a number of MP's have unsurprisingly been taken in by the misinformation surrounding FA Cup replays from The Guardian MPs call for English football’s regulator to have power to save FA Cup replays MPs vote in ...
by Chester Perry
Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
Replies: 21
Views: 1753

Re: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa

They probably don’t consider internal administrative appointments newsworthy (which they’re not really) but will have a reactive one available if asked. If you follow these things closely, and I am aware that some do much more closely than I, the turnover feels quite high and there is very little c...
by Chester Perry
Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
Replies: 21
Views: 1753

Re: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa

It should be noted that Geylang International where Sean Bai was General Manager, after he left Valencia, is a partner to CFG, yes them, again!! Football: Geylang are City Football Group’s first Asean partner https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/football/football-geylang-are-city-football-group-s-firs...
by Chester Perry
Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
Replies: 21
Views: 1753

Re: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa

another article that also quotes a club statement - which is a surprise given there has been no official announcement from the club Ex-Singapore diplomat named head of staff at English Premier League side Burnley https://stjohnshoponhopoff.ca/stjohnson/st46ad23905cdvrtjon14/ https://archive.ph/ner77
by Chester Perry
Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
Replies: 21
Views: 1753

Re: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa

It has to be remembered that Valencia are owned by Peter Lim - it is fair to say that his period of ownership has been a rather rocky road, that has seen a large number of employees come and go
by Chester Perry
Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
Replies: 21
Views: 1753

Re: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa

The information originally broke in the Straits Times

Former Singapore diplomat appointed English Premier League club Burnley’s chief of staff
https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/form ... f-of-staff
https://archive.ph/HBDDw
by Chester Perry
Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
Replies: 21
Views: 1753

New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa

Sean Bai - he is an interesting character

Spanish surprise at official moving to Burnley – Was fired by Valencia in 2022 and has been vocal since
https://sportwitness.co.uk/spanish-surp ... cal-since/
by Chester Perry
Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

very vague for the 10,000th post on this thread
by Chester Perry
Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: La Liga games in the USA
Replies: 22
Views: 1294

Re: La Liga games in the USA

These are the ones who have just been awarded Football League highlights in the US so I imagine Wrexham playing a league match in the US wouldn't be too far behind. They have also has a long running partnership with UEFA, which fed the International Champions Cup which was played in North America, ...
by Chester Perry
Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Elsewhere in The Athletic this is an interesting article - Tottenham's recent accounts showed they were making £4.8m a game (probably more this season), it is not a stretch to imagine a new 'Old Trafford with a 90,000 - 100,000+ capacity generating £10m a game or so - all of which makes the previous...
by Chester Perry
Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The proposed change to % of revenue which is more in line with uefa seemed to favour clubs in european comps and therefore more revenue. As you say this new proposal could put those clubs at a disadvantage to the big european teams. Tricky one this. I suspect that this piece in The Athletic today a...
by Chester Perry
Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: La Liga games in the USA
Replies: 22
Views: 1294

Re: La Liga games in the USA

There is a rule but we've seen far too often that rule tend to be broken when these club owners want something. we know from recent events re the long running legal case pursued by the promoters Relevent against the MLS and FIFA that FIFA have backed down, been removed from the litigation and are c...
by Chester Perry
Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

They still remain under the ownership of convicted fraudster Andy Pilley, and in the control of the family -so much for the owners and directors test being improved (the convicted rapist owner of neighbours Blackpool wad able to prosper under the previous iteration -before his attempts to defraud a ...
by Chester Perry
Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

In the above I noted that MLS teams outnumbered Premier League ones by 2:1 - not that I found that surprising given I have been noting their valuations for some years now So I was interested to find this story this morning - A British Citizen is paying $500m for a new MLS franchise in San Diego - t...
by Chester Perry
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonights Football
Replies: 116
Views: 5182

Re: Tonights Football

ElectroClaret wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:13 pm
Klopp ranting about something or other.
he has never liked playing a Dyche team - since his first encounter at Turf Moor when we showed him that he was not the only one who new how to get his team to press.

there have been numerous funny (both ha ha and weird) encounters since
by Chester Perry
Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

A new and lengthy article from Martin Samuels about the anchoring proposal to sit alongside the Squad Cost Ratio version of FFP. Samuel is right about it giving the opportunity for the owners of the biggest clubs the opportunity to finally make some profit via dividends (that could also raise the e...
by Chester Perry
Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
Replies: 198
Views: 14158

Re: Nottingham Forest tweet

Breaking News: It has been revealed that Simon Hooper, the referee for Saturday’s game between Nottingham Forest and Manchester City used to own a Luton van. The Forest hierarchy are said to be furious about a clear conflict of interest and are demanding that he is replaced. I am a little surprised...
by Chester Perry
Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Sky Sports News are saying that 777 Partners have put more funds into Everton, taking their loans to the club past the £200m mark - while this seems bizarre given that they couldn't raise the funds to pay off MSP Capital, it will have been a condition of their extension to that MSP deal https://twi...
by Chester Perry
Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

One of the things I most enjoy about the writing of Miguel Delaney is his demonstration of understanding of context, history and the wider issues that influence a situation - here he uses tonight's Merseyside derby as a both a history lesson and an exemplar of almost everything that is wrong with th...
by Chester Perry
Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12778
Views: 1267402

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

First Gazette notice for compulsory strike-off again for Kettering Capital, nothing on Calder Vale Holdings yet. https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12975630/filing-history It's all a bit of a bizarre situation with these and their lack of accounts. Indeed - 1st set o...
by Chester Perry
Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Football Governance Bill passed its 2nd stage tonight in Parliament - though it seems a number of MP's have unsurprisingly been taken in by the misinformation surrounding FA Cup replays from The Guardian MPs call for English football’s regulator to have power to save FA Cup replays MPs vote in f...
by Chester Perry
Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

There are suggestions from Alan Nixon that 777 partners are paying MSP Capital (and its investors) around £1m a week for the extension to the April 15 deadline. This will be on top of the circa £20m a month that they will have also pledge to keep Everton afloat and the stadium build progressing 777...
by Chester Perry
Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Premier League Chief Executive Richard Masters, takes his turn to put is case of concern about the Independent Regulator for Football and the Football Governance Bill from The Times Premier League is envy of world – government must not put that at risk Football Governance Bill could give the new re...
by Chester Perry
Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

I am not sure that this is legally possible from The Times FA could ban clubs from globetrotting post-season friendlies Player-welfare concerns were raised after Newcastle and Tottenham arranged match 10,500 miles away in Melbourne, three days after end of Premier League campaign https://archive.ph/...
by Chester Perry
Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

as football in England (and Europe's elite leagues) takes on more and more of American practices, the accessibility that was once considered the right of the ordinary fan has gradually dissipated, and that trend is only speeding up with ordinary fans given less seats proportionately each season. Su...
by Chester Perry
Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

There is an interesting section in Martin Zeigler's column in the Times today - not least because it brings up an issue which Interpol regards as one of the 3 key methods of money laundering international football transfers (the others being gambling and the art market). Of course there is a simple...
by Chester Perry
Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Another example of football becoming disenfranchised from what helped establish its popularity - as the article demonstrates this is a situation that is not unfamiliar in our town from The Times ‘We’d be lambs to slaughter’ – why some fans don’t want to get promoted It’s the tightest Championship p...
by Chester Perry
Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: FA Cup Replays
Replies: 80
Views: 3256

Re: FA Cup Replays

So it has taken a while but we now have potentially the most sensible writing on this issue that clearly outlines the process that led to the reformatting of the FA Cup - and wonder of wonders The EFL (representing their members and even the Football Supporters Association were part of the discussio...
by Chester Perry
Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

I must say that while I am not surprised by the outcry of the significant changes to the format of the FA Cup, I am somewhat surprised at the misinformation from the media fuelling the outrage against the Premier League and yet more calls for the Independent Regulator for Football to step in. Natur...
by Chester Perry
Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10013
Views: 1048441

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Is this a sign of how desperate the situation at Everton is? - the clubs own financial advisors seeking funding for 777 Partners rather than finding an alternative, because the process would take too long for a new buyer to take control from Bloomberg Everton's Advisers Scramble to Save 777 Takeove...