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- Wed May 01, 2024 12:09 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Everton Issues
- Replies: 20
- Views: 2592
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
the Times are reporting that the Premier League are still looking at this deal and have yet to give it their approval - there is no way that Chelsea can lay this at the door of the precious owners like they have with so much else Chelsea’s £76.5m hotels deal under scrutiny from Premier League West ...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
this thread has long noted that the Premier League likes to go into mutually beneficial long-term relationships with its major broadcast partners - this long look at the relationship with NBC explains why from The Athletic Behind the scenes at NBC: ‘We want to be the network of the Premier League’ ...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: World Snooker Championship
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1238
Re: World Snooker Championship
Dennis Taylor - it was an incredible match - over 20m watched that final
you can watch the final frame here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnyKjK4zAiE
you can watch the final frame here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnyKjK4zAiE
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
While this the title of this article from Phillipe Auclair may have been made out of date by that BBC revelation there is much else in it that is still relevant particularly the questions about whether major 777 Partners financial backer Kenneth King of A-Cap will find ways to meet the demands of re...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
The Guardian are reporting that Everton have called in Insolvency Advisors - because the monies reported by The i has having been paid yesterday have not arrived Everton call in insolvency advisers amid fresh doubt over 777 takeover Club believed to be waiting for further £15m of loans from 777 Adv...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 6:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
So this is an interesting one - essentially FIFA rules are getting in the way of sanctions against Russia
Fifa transfer rules may breach EU regulations, says adviser
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 2p3vd83edo
Fifa transfer rules may breach EU regulations, says adviser
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 2p3vd83edo
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 6:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Issues on Up the Clarets
- Replies: 26
- Views: 2909
Re: Issues on Up the Clarets
yep me too, all day
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Everton Issues
- Replies: 20
- Views: 2592
Re: Everton Issues
9 points is the Portsmouth precedent - still some way from actual administration though
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: if carlsberg did Saturdays..
- Replies: 1
- Views: 531
Re: if carlsberg did Saturdays..
add in
Burnley 5 - 0 Newcastle U
Sheffield Utd 10 - 0 Nottingham Forest
all following an Everton Win at Luton the night before
Burnley 5 - 0 Newcastle U
Sheffield Utd 10 - 0 Nottingham Forest
all following an Everton Win at Luton the night before
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
this thread has long noted that the Premier League likes to go into mutually beneficial long-term relationships with its major broadcast partners - this long look at the relationship with NBC explains why from The Athletic Behind the scenes at NBC: ‘We want to be the network of the Premier League’ h...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
The Guardian are reporting that Everton have called in Insolvency Advisors - because the monies reported by The i has having been paid yesterday have not arrived Everton call in insolvency advisers amid fresh doubt over 777 takeover Club believed to be waiting for further £15m of loans from 777 Advi...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nordensa
- Replies: 16
- Views: 1103
Re: Nordensa
Lets hope this loophole can be closed
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Thanks for that. My immediate thought is because it is American money that shows up is not necessarily the whole picture. There are many hawks who have nothing but disdain for the West’s sanctions and opposition to Putin, who will have no compunction doing favours and hiding Russian Money. there is...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Think there needs to be a serious investigation as to whether there is sports washing going on with Everton. My (without much basis) hunch is there is still Russian money being plowed into Everton, and some sanction busting going on to be reclaimed in the long term by people who are currently black...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nordensa
- Replies: 16
- Views: 1103
Re: Nordensa
What is Nordensa? Nordensa is a platform dedicated to football fans around the world. Here you will be able to partner with us and empower young talent in getting a CHANCE to participate in trials at European football clubs. With your support, they could achieve remarkable success. Why does Nordens...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nordensa
- Replies: 16
- Views: 1103
Re: Nordensa
Wonder what happened to AiScout ? going strong particularly Ai.IO have a significant contract with MLS and another with the Chelsea Academy, ALK have probably seen their £1m - £1.5m investment (over multiple funding rounds) quadruple in value - it should be noted that Vlad Torgovnik holds a bigger ...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nordensa
- Replies: 16
- Views: 1103
Re: Nordensa
I wouldn't be surprised if ALK/VSL have a small stake, sounds like a parallel (early) AiScout approach, though that technology has moved on substantially detail on them - anyone any experience finding details on a Transylvanian company? https://www.nordensa.com/ just to confirm - ALK Capital have i...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nordensa
- Replies: 16
- Views: 1103
Re: Nordensa
I wouldn't be surprised if ALK/VSL have a small stake, sounds like a parallel (early) AiScout approach, though that technology has moved on substantially detail on them - anyone any experience finding details on a Transylvanian company? https://www.nordensa.com/ More information https://www.linkedi...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nordensa
- Replies: 16
- Views: 1103
Re: Nordensa
I wouldn't be surprised if ALK/VSL have a small stake, sounds like a parallel (early) AiScout approach, though that technology has moved on substantially
detail on them - anyone any experience finding details on a Transylvanian company?
https://www.nordensa.com/
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
,,,,Will say I have no idea how the premier league could determine 777 to be fit and proper owners. This is the thing that most people haven't quite grasped - The Premier League have not said that 777 Partners are 'Fit and Proper'. I posted a while back that is doesn't seem to be in The Premier Lea...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Everton must be teetering on the brink. Could they go into administration this season? Probably only if they make the choice, I doubt anyone will force it at this stage There are some interesting things going on in the background, 777 Partners were briefing that they would complete the takeover bef...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:08 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
The last week or so has seen plenty of dramatic reports in the media about the prosecution of Football Agent/Intermediary Saif Rubie and his alleged threat to Maria Granovskaia then of Chelsea over a disputed fee. Rather than clog up the thread with these articles I have waited for something along t...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:56 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Miguel Delaney appears confident that the new FFP/cost control proposals being examined by the Premier League are a step towards a more competitive competition from The Independent How a Premier League spending cap can stop the destructive race of the richest clubs As the English top flight moves t...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:35 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Consider the above post to this, the monies suggested last week have now gone through apparently - it appears that 777 are still juggling their limited funds to pursue Everton - it is all quite desparate and ruthless really from The i Everton’s loans from 777 Partners exceed £200m after fresh inject...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:24 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
possibly not anymore though it is expected that they will be putting more operating money into Everton in the coming days This is an interesting if unsurprising move https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/status/1781213923191972044?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E178121392319197204...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:23 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Schalke 04 are one of the true giant clubs in Germany and Europe - they may be about to drop out of Bundesliga 2 and that makes their situation desperate - it is a combination of circumstances from poor management in the boardroom to a huge reliance on Russian sponsorship - in many ways this is the ...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: World Snooker Championship
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1238
Re: World Snooker Championship
What an astounding pair of games tonight - really good match play on both tables, and the finish from Higgins in the 25th was sublime
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Miguel Delaney appears confident that the new FFP/cost control proposals being examined by the Premier League are a step towards a more competitive competition from The Independent How a Premier League spending cap can stop the destructive race of the richest clubs As the English top flight moves to...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
- Replies: 62
- Views: 6736
Re: Forest points deduction appeal
I'm not really sure what I'm meant to be accepting here. I can't change what Forest are arguing. For the avoidance of doubt, I do believe that Forest have a point re: the reduced thresholds for teams out of the Premier League but I don't believe it is a mitigation, they were aware what the rules we...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
- Replies: 62
- Views: 6736
Re: Forest points deduction appeal
In case people are forgetting - as seems quite apparent from the posts I am seeing - The Premier League will be arguing against a penalty reduction and actually argued for a greater penalty than was given It is the independent commissions that make the decisions, the Premier League has been unhappy ...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The summer Trafford/Muric dilemma
- Replies: 110
- Views: 3753
Re: The summer Trafford/Muric dilemma
If we look at the possible/probable (depending on your perspective) cash flow issues, particularly if relegation does happen, then the club will be wanting to sell (according to the auditors) and currently the profit is in Muric not Trafford given the transactions that brought them to our club.
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
The principle has been agreed today the detail will have to wait for June's meeting - which kind of makes sense as that is when the promoted clubs will officially join from The Athletic Premier League clubs agree to push ahead with spending cap plans https://archive.ph/eIPgf it is interesting that ...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
It will be interesting as to how the vote goes on this today - if discussions allow it to get that far from The Times Premier League clubs to decide on spending cap A vote in principle on the cap, which would restrict top teams’ spending on transfers, wages and agents, is expected to be taken at a ...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
- Replies: 62
- Views: 6736
Re: Forest points deduction appeal
If the ref had correctly disallowed Luton equalizer we would have been in a much better position. Big word is ‘if’ probably don't have to go that late in the season - get Darren England to not argue the Berge handball at the City ground and we have two more points and Forest 1 less with Lyle Foster...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
What is interesting about the proposals is it becomes a triple rather than double measure So we have: - Squad Cost to Revenue - 75% for UEFA qualifiers and 85% for the rest, which will be awful for some Europa League/Conference qualifiers - the 4.5 wages to bottom clubs TV revenue know as an anchor...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
- Replies: 62
- Views: 6736
Re: Forest points deduction appeal
This is part of Forest's complaint on FFP. If you've been in the championship that figures drops (possibly by £22m for each season outside the premier league, I can't remember exact figures). They claim that on promotion to the premier league you actually need to spend more to compete and so coupli...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
- Replies: 62
- Views: 6736
Re: Forest points deduction appeal
Which would give the deduction that Forest believed they were going to get and is why they have appealedCarlos the Great wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:36 pmApparently lots of murmurs suggesting they are getting 2 points back .. that is basically enough to keep them in premier league
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Philippe Auclair with an extensive new article about Asian betting operations, the Isle of Man and the importance of holding a British gaming license - there has been recent police action and some interesting activity by brands we see associated with football, particularly in the Premier League - no...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
In a clear indication of just how much football finance has penetrated football fandom - The Price of Football Podcast released it's 500th episode today with a special interview with Kieron O'Connor better known as Swiss Ramble - it is chatty but Swiss gives a bit of an insight as to what investors ...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Issues on Up the Clarets
- Replies: 26
- Views: 2909
Re: Issues on Up the Clarets
I don't think I have ever seen Claude AI or Claude [Bot] on this board - though I do not always look
I have commented before that since the launch of various AI apps that viewing activity on certain threads has gone through the roof - if anything it seems to generate more views in a vicious spiral
I have commented before that since the launch of various AI apps that viewing activity on certain threads has gone through the roof - if anything it seems to generate more views in a vicious spiral
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?
- Replies: 57
- Views: 3032
Re: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?
The article reads a bit like it's by someone who's never been to Haringey but that's by the by. Spurs make a lot of money from tourists, particularly there to see Son, so you can see why it's an issue. In terms of concessions though, it's a bit more complicated than just looking at the mismatch bet...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Issues on Up the Clarets
- Replies: 26
- Views: 2909
Re: Issues on Up the Clarets
Like you say CT the problems have been there for days I have noticed that there has been a significant uptick in the number of visitors to the site recently - well over 600 currently but yesterday lunch it was over 1,200 the other thing I am noticing is the increase in what I can only assume is bot ...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12778
- Views: 1273625
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
I've said before but I'm a bit surprised there has been much discussion on the minutiae of structural issues like shareholding and little on the meaning of the accounts going forward.. From any perspective, this is a problematic set of accounts. Not least because it doesn't include almost £40 milli...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?
- Replies: 57
- Views: 3032
Re: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?
It is probably worth putting this here too - the trend of non tv income at our club
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?
- Replies: 57
- Views: 3032
Re: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?
The article in question is one of a number that I have been posting on the MMT recently covering the general dislocation between traditional/legacy approach of fandom and running of clubs and the the ever more desperate search for revenues for those who haven't seen the one discussed in the OP you c...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Legacy Fans v Corporate sensibilities - The Athletic picks up the baton The new Premier League culture war: Corporate interests vs ‘authentic’ fans https://theathletic.com/5416265/2024/04/16/premier-league-fans-corporate-culture/ Jonathan Wilson is the next writer to pick up on this theme from The ...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:39 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Been thinking more about this. Doesn't mean all clubs have same effective cap limit. Depends on multiplier used on base figure, some clubs may not have suffcient revenue to spend up to cap. Does mean cap not dependent on each individual clubs revenue, which is difficult to police as we've seen. Cou...
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:33 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
While this is better than B-teams, I am not sure that this is all that helpful to the National League if fans react in the same way as those in the EFL have done to the EFL Trophy. Overall it just feels like an F.U. to the EFL from The Athletic Premier League and National League in talks over new cu...
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:45 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10041
- Views: 1061691
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
This story about DAZN being upset with The Bundesliga over the awarding of a premium rights package in which DAZN believed that they had substantially outbid Sky for has been running for a while now. It seems that DAZN have chosen to overlook a crucial point - they failed to provide the necessary fi...