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by BurnleyBob
Wed Apr 03, 2024 12:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 12044

Re: Administration?

This may already have been posted but this is a brief overview of Burnley's finances for the 2021-22 year by Swiss Ramble. You have to subscribe for their full assessment. https://swissramble.substack.com/p/burnley-finances-202122?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2 I would be very interested to k...
by BurnleyBob
Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.
Replies: 36
Views: 1897

The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.

For those who want to travel back in time the link below takes you to a very comprehensive coverage of pictures and newspaper reports both from before and after the 1962 Final. This was put together by the Burnley Civic Trust.

https://www.bcthic.org/Articles/The_1962_FA_Cup_Final
by BurnleyBob
Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pancreatic cancer
Replies: 23
Views: 1974

Re: Pancreatic cancer

Very sorry to hear of your loss. My wife died 10 years ago after being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer 18 months before her death. She had three operations attempting the Whipple procedure which on the third occasion removed the tumour but sadly she died a couple of weeks later from an infection th...
by BurnleyBob
Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan Pace - Self made man
Replies: 82
Views: 5921

Re: Alan Pace - Self made man

Burnley FC must be very highly geared (debt to equity ratio). High gearing is fine when debt can be fairly comfortably serviced thanks either to low interest rates or strong predictable revenues. Football in general does not provide predictable revenues. As a result Burnley's buying spree in the sum...
by BurnleyBob
Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Recruiting character
Replies: 87
Views: 3926

Re: Recruiting character

Last season with 101 points and opposition managers saying that we were a very good side we had reason to be optimistic of PL survival. Sadly we have been fielding a side that is weaker than last season. One would expect that promotion leads to an improved squad but with the promotion team largely k...
by BurnleyBob
Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: PREVIEW: Spurs in the cup brings back memories
Replies: 2
Views: 299

Re: PREVIEW: Spurs in the cup brings back memories

I well remember us drawing Spurs in the 3rd round in early 1963 during the big freeze having only played them in the Final a few months earlier. When we won 3-0 at White Hart Lane I was convinced we would now win it as we had knocked the holders out. Very naive but then again I was only 10!
by BurnleyBob
Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany: time to go
Replies: 779
Views: 47200

Re: Kompany: time to go

Mistakes have obviously been made with recruitment and in tactics. It is very sad that the momentum and spirit of the championship team last year has been lost and relegation is now very likely, although the other two promoted side will probably go down as well. However VK needs time to learn from t...
by BurnleyBob
Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The difference is hard to believe…
Replies: 6
Views: 1518

Re: The difference is hard to believe…

Sadly the momentum and spirit that we had at the end of last season has gone as a result of a bizarre summer transfer window that has weakened the team. I know it was another era but the 1973 promotion side added only Peter Noble to the squad that went up. In the subsequent 1st division season we ne...
by BurnleyBob
Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The difference is hard to believe…
Replies: 6
Views: 1518

Re: The difference is hard to believe…

Sadly the momentum and spirit that we had at the end of last season has gone as a result of a bizarre summer transfer window that has weakened the team. I know it was another era but the 1973 promotion side added only Peter Noble to the squad that went up. In the subsequent 1st division season we ne...
by BurnleyBob
Wed May 03, 2023 5:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How many old 'uns/over 60's post on here?
Replies: 167
Views: 7228

Re: How many old 'uns/over 60's post on here?

I have just reached 70. My first game was when my Dad took me to see Burnley play West Ham in September 1964. We sat in the old Brunshaw Road stand and Burnley won 3-2. I think I saw Ray Pointer score his last goal for Burnley.
by BurnleyBob
Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TOMORROW Prematch exhibition launch at Burnley library
Replies: 15
Views: 1397

Re: TOMORROW Prematch exhibition launch at Burnley library

Fans may also be interested in the Burnley Civic Trust's coverage in photos and articles of the 1962 FA Cup Final.


https://www.bcthic.org/Articles/The_1962_FA_Cup_Final
by BurnleyBob
Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Zaroury playing for Morocco at the same time as BFC
Replies: 33
Views: 3724

Re: Zaroury playing for Morocco at the same time as BFC

If Zaroury plays in the third place match will that be the highest level a Burnley player has played in a World Cup?
by BurnleyBob
Mon May 23, 2022 7:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan Pace
Replies: 292
Views: 16729

Re: Alan Pace

It would be a refreshing surprise if there was a shareholders meeting in the immediate future - minor shareholders have been disenfranchised for
years. Surely we have a legal right to have an EGM given the change in the club's financial position following relegation?
by BurnleyBob
Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Thank you, Sean
Replies: 103
Views: 6804

Re: Thank you, Sean

Thank you Sean for everything you have done for us. Ashamed to be a Burnley fan at this moment.
by BurnleyBob
Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
Replies: 1146
Views: 76965

Re: Big news coming soon from the Turf

This is dreadful news after all he has done for us. It is akin to the sale of Jimmy McIlroy in 1963. Even if we stay up it will be an
achievement which will be tainted.
by BurnleyBob
Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BURNLEY BOUNCES BACK!
Replies: 5
Views: 1387

Re: BURNLEY BOUNCES BACK!

Sorry but the scans will not attach-'image file you are trying to attach is invalid'
by BurnleyBob
Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BURNLEY BOUNCES BACK!
Replies: 5
Views: 1387

BURNLEY BOUNCES BACK!

While tidying my loft recently I came across a piece in The Observer magazine (19th August 1973). It was about the club's return to Division 1
after the successful 1972/73 season. I have attached scans of the article with apologies that some of the wording is missing in places.
by BurnleyBob
Fri Mar 18, 2022 5:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Farewell to Andy Lochhead
Replies: 115
Views: 7003

Re: ARTICLE: Farewell to Andy Lochhead

A fantastic player who with Willie Irvine fed on crosses from Willie Morgan and Ralph Coates in that wonderful 1965-66 season. My abiding memory is of him rising to meet one of those crosses and his balding head shining in the floodlights. Sad news.
by BurnleyBob
Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: A Director’s Tale
Replies: 65
Views: 7262

Re: ARTICLE: A Director’s Tale

I have always felt that the team that went down at the end of the 1982-83 season was relegated in part because we had played 58 games that season with the two cup runs. We quite possibly would have stayed up if we had been knocked out of both competitions early on. There were some really decent play...
by BurnleyBob
Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sack Dyche now
Replies: 529
Views: 33390

Re: Sack Dyche now

This is a ridiculous thread. Burnley are over-achieving by being in the Premiership at all. In the normal scheme of things our resources suggest us being a mid table Championship side. Sean Dyche has given Burnley fans something they could never have dreamed of and he should leave the club when he c...
by BurnleyBob
Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sunday Times magazine/Jimmy McIlroy
Replies: 13
Views: 1739

Sunday Times magazine/Jimmy McIlroy

The Sunday Times magazine commemorated it's 60th anniversary on Sunday the 6th. It was first published on the 4th of February 1962 and had a picture of Jimmy McIlroy on the front cover. Today's magazine says the cover consisted of a series of fashion shots and one of a footballer. It said: "The foot...
by BurnleyBob
Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jimmy Hogan Remembered
Replies: 4
Views: 1123

Re: Jimmy Hogan Remembered

I have just bought a recently published book about him : The Greatest Football Coach Ever by Ashley Hyne.
by BurnleyBob
Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: the heavyroller.
Replies: 1
Views: 866

the heavyroller.

This may have been posted before but there are a lot of match highlights from the 1950s and 60s now on youtube. They are collectively under the name of theheavyroller and the clip below is the 2-2 draw with Spurs in the 1961-62 season. Burnley matches feature quite extensively. https://www.youtube.c...
by BurnleyBob
Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Panorama - Footballs Broken Dreams - 8.30pm
Replies: 23
Views: 4278

Re: Panorama - Footballs Broken Dreams - 8.30pm

Most of the boys who go to academies will never play for the club. However, these academies give promising footballers good coaching and develop fitness, often providing free kit and boots, as well as competitive sport - all for free. Most of these boys when they reach their late teens and are not t...
by BurnleyBob
Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Panorama - Footballs Broken Dreams - 8.30pm
Replies: 23
Views: 4278

Re: Panorama - Footballs Broken Dreams - 8.30pm

Most of the boys who go to academies will never play for the club. However, these academies give promising footballers good coaching and develop fitness, often providing free kit and boots, as well as competitive sport - all for free. Most of these boys when they reach their late teens and are not t...
by BurnleyBob
Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alex Elder - The Ball at his Feet
Replies: 40
Views: 4536

Look at Life - Alex Elder.

I just found this Look at Life episode (remember them at the cinema?) on You Tube. It features in the main a quite young Alex Elder. It has
some nice coverage of life at Turf Moor in the early 1960s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_hpjVgd-_s
by BurnleyBob
Mon May 24, 2021 3:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Chester Report 1968.
Replies: 10
Views: 1223

The Chester Report 1968.

Way back in 1968 the Chester Report on the State of Football (link below) commented on Burnley page 42 (para 143) calling them a 'phenomenon'. This was because we had been in the First Division for so long while other small town clubs had gone down. This was explained in the report as being the resu...
by BurnleyBob
Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12765
Views: 1248348

Re: Burnley £90 Million in debt

I find this article very worrying. These types of leveraged buy-outs have posed problems elsewhere in the economy. A cynic would say that ALK chose Burnley because of our strong balance sheet and cash reserves and they are never going to provide the backing that will make us into even a Leicester Ci...
by BurnleyBob
Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Barry Kilby and the departing directors
Replies: 84
Views: 8442

Re: Barry Kilby and the departing directors

I was at Clitheroe Grammar when Barry Kilby was there along with Martin Dobson. They were both older than me and I never really knew them although I saw both play football in house matches - they were a cut above the rest! Echoing comments above posts of chance meetings with Barry I met him on a tra...
by BurnleyBob
Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What about the smaller shareholders?
Replies: 60
Views: 6794

Re: What about the smaller shareholders?

You make a very good point and I think the club owe the smaller shareholders some kind of explanation of what their status now is. A letter from the club to all remaining shareholders would be a courtesy.
by BurnleyBob
Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12765
Views: 1248348

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

ALK Capital may only buy enough shares to have control of the club rather than 100% of shares to have full ownership. Whatever happens the club will presumably remain a private limited company. If small shareholders are just ignored and keep their holding shouldn't there be an EGM? I have been perpl...
by BurnleyBob
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The 1962 Cup Final.
Replies: 14
Views: 2682

Re: The 1962 Cup Final.

Some lovely recollections on this thread. My best friend had tickets for the Final and went to the game whereas I watched it on tv with my parents. The euphoria of the Robson equaliser followed by second Spurs goal which followed immediately is a lasting memory. As a nine year old my friends and I s...
by BurnleyBob
Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The 1962 Cup Final.
Replies: 14
Views: 2682

Re: The 1962 Cup Final.

There are some colour photos of this Final which few people have probably seen and this would a valuable selling point.
by BurnleyBob
Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The 1962 Cup Final.
Replies: 14
Views: 2682

The 1962 Cup Final.

It would be nice to think that the club or an author could publish something on the 1962 Cup Final or even on 'the nearly the double' season of 1961-62. As it will 60 years ago fairly soon it would seem an appropriate time to publish something like this. A fair few Burnley books have covered this pe...
by BurnleyBob
Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Recession, Regret and Regression
Replies: 83
Views: 7480

Re: ARTICLE: Recession, Regret and Regression

An excellent article. I watched Moneyball last night and Burnley are clearly in that category. The lack of signings may be linked to the possible takeover/investment that has been in the media. It may also be that Covid-19 has hit Burnley harder than we think. On both these points a statement by the...
by BurnleyBob
Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Jimmy Mullen – October 1991 to February 1996
Replies: 43
Views: 3057

Re: ARTICLE: Jimmy Mullen – October 1991 to February 1996

The contribution of Jimmy Mullen, Stan Ternent, Steve Cotterill and Owen Coyle made to the club alongside that of Sean Dyche should be be formally recognised by the club in some way. From the bottom of Division 4 to 10th in the Premier League has been achieved by the efforts of a lot people over the...
by BurnleyBob
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New To Netflix - The English Game
Replies: 39
Views: 5903

The English Game.

Someone may have already posted about this Netflix film/series but I have only just finished watching it. It is very good despite all the inaccuracies, the main one being that the star player Fergus Souter left Darwen to play for Blackburn Rovers but in the film the FA Cup final he featured in was O...
by BurnleyBob
Mon May 25, 2020 2:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: John Bond – June 1983 to August 1984
Replies: 66
Views: 5119

Re: ARTICLE: John Bond – June 1983 to August 1984

A very fair assessment of the John Bond era. He was too big a 'name' for Burnley but in his way he tried his best with the club already in decline when he joined. He took over a relegated side not a successful one. However, he signed too many players way past their best although Reeves and Hutchinso...
by BurnleyBob
Wed May 13, 2020 4:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Honouring our past managers.
Replies: 9
Views: 1008

Honouring our past managers.

Reading all the coverage of the Orient game on the messageboard in recent days makes it hard to believe that in 25 years we fell from near double winners to near oblivion. However the journey back to where the club is now is just as surprising but much more pleasant. Between the Orient game and the ...
by BurnleyBob
Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Beginnings
Replies: 21
Views: 2607

Re: ARTICLE: Beginnings

This is an excellent article on the 'glory' years from the perspective of a young fan, an era which in my view went on until 1975. It's easy to forget the 1965/66 team and the outstanding football played by Jimmy Adamson's side in the early 1970s. Fortunately we are now in an era where the Clarets a...
by BurnleyBob
Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Jimmy McIlroy is no longer a Burnley player
Replies: 1
Views: 403

Re: ARTICLE: Jimmy McIlroy is no longer a Burnley player

The sale of Jimmy Mcillroy and the circumstances surrounding it may become clearer when the forthcoming book on Bob Lord is published. It certainly damaged the club's relationship with the fans but Burnley came third in the First Division in that season and a fine side in the mid 1960s also did well...
by BurnleyBob
Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: The magic that once was the FA Cup
Replies: 43
Views: 3823

Re: ARTICLE: The magic that once was the FA Cup

I totally agree with the sentiments expressed in Tony Scholes's article on the FA Cup. Others may have already posted possible solutions to the devalued trophy. Firstly winners of the FA Cup could be allocated one of the Champions League places being taken by the Premier League. The practice of play...
by BurnleyBob
Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche in or out
Replies: 325
Views: 25962

Re: Dyche in or out

By size of club Burnley should be somewhere in the bottom half of the Championship. Using league position to wage bill in the Premier League Burnley would have been relegated bottom in every season after their promotions. Burnley are massive overachievers - just take a look at the huge clubs trying ...
by BurnleyBob
Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: £180 million. BFC
Replies: 183
Views: 21089

Re: £180 million. BFC

After the experiences of Blackburn Rovers, Coventry City, Charlton Athletic I would be very sceptical of the kind of takeover raised in The Times piece. Burnley cannot be scaled up any further - we are a town club who cannot be taken to the next level. At 7th in the Premier League this will be as go...