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by dsr
Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 843
Views: 16129

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

Isnt the difference that these countrys have to sign up to certain EU standards overseen by the CJEU whereas the UK refuse on the principle it will not compromise on its sovereignty even though it states it has no intention on want to to fall below these standards Seems like as the UK left the EU t...
by dsr
Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So by paying for our season tickets will we get free ones in 2021 2022 season
Replies: 112
Views: 2717

Re: So by paying for our season tickets will we get free ones in 2021 2022 season

Yes get that. I was working with many skilled engineers who claim the RR Ultrafan will be the best engine ever, but the ones I respected said it will never work. On both fronts we will see. In my opinion, we will not get a vaccine or the Ultrafan. Well we won’t get a vaccine that stops everyone get...
by dsr
Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So by paying for our season tickets will we get free ones in 2021 2022 season
Replies: 112
Views: 2717

Re: So by paying for our season tickets will we get free ones in 2021 2022 season

What would you suggest.... You can take your money out, and still keep all the benefits of those who keep their money in? I've asked this on the other thread, and nobody answered so I'll try again... Is there a company who allow you to keep all benefits, if you stop paying them, or remove all your ...
by dsr
Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 843
Views: 16129

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

There is a good reason for the EU to do this: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/25/dominic-cummings-data-law-shake-up-a-danger-to-trade-says-eu All of this was brought up during the referendum, but was described as project fear. It looks as though Project Stupid won the argument. Maybe ...
by dsr
Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 843
Views: 16129

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

Is there any positive reason why the EU would like their citizens to be inconvenienced in travel to the UK? I don't see any benefit to the EU in saying that the UK has left so we will make it less convenient for our citizens to visit the UK.
by dsr
Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BAMFORD
Replies: 62
Views: 4040

Re: BAMFORD

I really don’t get all the derision he gets on here (all the “hilarious” remarks about “crying in the car” etc, about as hilarious as referencing Dyche and cooking omlettes). He was literally never given a chance at Burnley. Are you saying that when he turned up for training he wasn't allowed to pl...
by dsr
Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 843
Views: 16129

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

Not without changing EU law. That's up to the EU. I doubt they are hoping to go through the whole of Brexit without changing any laws. Besides, why wouldn't they change it? If by changing the law so that the UK is to be treated the same as Switzerland at passport control - not a hugely difficult ch...
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 843
Views: 16129

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

EU to treat UK as non EU country after UK chooses to leave EU shocker. Who'd have thought the Brexit brigade would blame this on the EU being nasty All I am saying is that both sides have the option of keeping things as they are now, and both sides would be better for taking that option; and that's...
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How good are our under 18’s & under 23’s
Replies: 33
Views: 1595

Re: How good are our under 18’s & under 23’s

I can't imagine that's been updated since I packed in which was January 2016 Funny thing about "UptheClarets". If I say I have been on the Up The Clarets website (me being one of those people that always, sometimes on purpose, is slow to catch on to new names. Anyone fancy a Marathon or some Opal F...
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chester FC cancel event because of the toilets
Replies: 9
Views: 736

Re: Chester FC cancel event because of the toilets

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:58 pm
Would Heddlu have formed a barrier between the stands and the bogs?
They’ll have customs checking you haven’t taken anything into the country without paying tax next.
Bureaucracy gone mad.
It wasn't what they were taking into Wales that upset them, it was what they were leaving behind. :shock:
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Anthony Higginbotham
Replies: 391
Views: 9128

Re: Anthony Higginbotham

Hard to say where the Brexit Party/UKIP vote will go, it's possible some won't vote at all, equally some might switch to the Greens as a protest vote, or many could vote for an independent as has happened in recent Burnley elections. Yes I had noted that the reduction in MP'S has been dropped, just...
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 843
Views: 16129

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

Are there any more 'favourite bits about being in the EU' you'd like to cherry pick dsr? If you don't think its funny imagine how you would feel if you didn't vote for brexit. If you think this is bad, how are the Scottish unionists going to carry on if Scotland votes to leave the UK? For those peo...
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Anthony Higginbotham
Replies: 391
Views: 9128

Re: Anthony Higginbotham

You can’t see the double standard? I pointed out that nobody questioned the furlough scheme in terms of what people will spend the money on. “Nobody suggested they’d blow it all on avocados and Rioja.” The opposite of what you’re suggesting. Where the envy has come into it is the reaction by people...
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 843
Views: 16129

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

Artificially delayed? You've just made that up haven't you? I'd assume the real issue is that there are different data requirements for the UK as part of the EU and as a third country. Hence It is understood that EU capitals have been informed that it may be possible for UK nationals to use the e-g...
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 843
Views: 16129

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

So the UK wants travel between the UK and the EU to be through time-saving e-gates and the EU wants travel to be artificially delayed. Why is that funny?
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ben White value
Replies: 24
Views: 1909

Re: Ben White value

Leeds are my joint favourite team with Burnley so I watched him a fair bit last season. Already better than Mee and over next two years will be miles ahead of Tarks. Needs a full season (or maybe two) playing in this league before we see how good he really is Leeds clearly can't be your joint favou...
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ben White value
Replies: 24
Views: 1909

Re: Ben White value

he played for Leeds which automatically makes him one of the best defenders the world has ever seen, believed to be better than Maldini in his prime and at 50 million is clearly 200 million undervalued If you take the game reading skills of Bobby Moore with the size and strength of Jack Charlton, p...
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Anthony Higginbotham
Replies: 391
Views: 9128

Re: Anthony Higginbotham

I'm questioning the double standard. When the furlough scheme was announced, nobody said; "they'll just blow it all on avocadoes and Rioja." Nobody said; "Well they should have thought twice before taking on that mortgage, and credit card debt." Nobody said; "it's their responsibility to pay these ...
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Anthony Higginbotham
Replies: 391
Views: 9128

Re: Anthony Higginbotham

Why would an ordinary working class person want to be an MP? You’d have a better life being a tradesman running your own business!! Peter Pike, Kitty Usher, Julie Cooper, Gordon Birtwistle - have they got power, riches and influence? They've got the riches. Quite apart from the annual salary, even ...
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Anthony Higginbotham
Replies: 391
Views: 9128

Re: Anthony Higginbotham

Not necessarily morally inferior, unless you’re implying that they don’t care about their children. They are probably inferior in terms of levels of education, attainment, prosperity, fiscal contribution and cognitive ability. I'm not the one making moral or other judgements on parents who don't fe...
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Anthony Higginbotham
Replies: 391
Views: 9128

Re: Anthony Higginbotham

I think the assumption here, and it's a lazy and incorrect one, is that poor people on benefits are morally inferior to those in receipt of the much more generous benefit scheme called furlough. In which case I presume it would be better to oppose Rashford's suggestion and instead add a few quid on...
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: End child food poverty
Replies: 113
Views: 2371

Re: End child food poverty

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:03 am
My question was pretty straight forward and easily answerable ...
So was his. :roll:
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 217
Views: 7769

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Some very good points that explain a lot but you would still expect a much higher death rate in India where many people live closely together in slum conditions. It would be interesting to know how many are receiving these cheap treatments and recovering. It could also be that a virus left essentia...
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: End child food poverty
Replies: 113
Views: 2371

Re: End child food poverty

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:38 am
Is this just a question because you don't know the answer or are you making an implied point? If it is just a question do you think the answer has any relevance to the discussion or again is it just your curiosity?
I take it that means you don't know either? :D
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Anthony Higginbotham
Replies: 391
Views: 9128

Re: Anthony Higginbotham

The idea appears to be that by giving the children food directly, we prevent their parents from spending the money on other things. I’m asking why the same moral concern doesn’t operate with the parents who are receiving furlough money. Because people assume that the hungry children are the childre...
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Premier League squad cost
Replies: 15
Views: 1338

Re: Premier League squad cost

Given our aged squad I think you would find us even further adrift from the rest based on current values This is what a lack of investment in good recruitment brings - and that fault lies at the doors of Dyche and Rigg as much as Garlick This "aged squad" thing is being way overdone. Look at our fi...
by dsr
Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Anthony Higginbotham
Replies: 391
Views: 9128

Re: Anthony Higginbotham

Should the furlough pay also be paid out partly in food? That way we can be sure it won’t get spent on wine? I fail to see how that would help. The suggestion on here is that children should be given free food because they are going hungry, and that the best way to ensure children get that food is ...
by dsr
Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future
Replies: 217
Views: 7769

Re: SARS-COV2 could cease to be a pandemic in the near future

Ivermectin is looking like a cheap and effective treatment. Especially in combination with the following: Ivermectin, Doxycycline, Zinc and Vitamin D3. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/quadruple-therapy-with-ivermectinis-effective-in-treating-covid-19/article32601262.ece https://www...
by dsr
Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How good are our under 18’s & under 23’s
Replies: 33
Views: 1595

Re: How good are our under 18’s & under 23’s

Genuinely interested as I have never seen them. They seem to be average at best. Is this indicative of the calibre of our scouting system, which appears to be a disaster frankly? If the under 19s and under 23s are average for the Premier League Category 1 academy sides, then I'm very pleased. We're...
by dsr
Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Anthony Higginbotham
Replies: 391
Views: 9128

Re: Anthony Higginbotham

Interesting response dsr. I can't claim to know much about the process of providing tokens or cash, or the views of those in receipt, but it's hard to disagree with autonomy as part of the process in principle. I guess I was triggered by some of the comments on here to speak up for support in gener...
by dsr
Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Anthony Higginbotham
Replies: 391
Views: 9128

Re: Anthony Higginbotham

I have to disagree Jakubclaret, and with some other posters on this thread too. People are right to point the finger at parents, and the parents' parents. But no child should be punished for their parent's mistakes. Each child is born as a blank slate and the way to break the cycle is to support th...
by dsr
Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Anthony Higginbotham
Replies: 391
Views: 9128

Re: Anthony Higginbotham

And for this anecdote someone will be right along to provide you with one about a single, working parent who still has to utilise food banks. Which is why you have to look at the bigger picture and evidence base. There were 4.2 million children living in poverty in the UK in 2018-19. That's 30 per ...
by dsr
Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Anthony Higginbotham
Replies: 391
Views: 9128

Re: Anthony Higginbotham

Nope. Partly the state doesn't want to know, but mainly as it is obviously not the right solution. Which bit of the fact that there are genuinely hungry kids out there do you not believe? Is that all down to bad parents who spend it on ciggies and booze? Answer is no. Where has empathy gone in this...
by dsr
Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: End child food poverty
Replies: 113
Views: 2371

Re: End child food poverty

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:30 am
Is that you Maggie?.......WHAT are you on?
Well, tomorrow I'm on roast chicken with potatoes, carrots and parsnips. On Friday I'll be on broth.
by dsr
Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: End child food poverty
Replies: 113
Views: 2371

Re: End child food poverty

It’s a credit to you and their mothers that there has always been food on the table. I can only hope that, even if it is short-term, this strategy will feed children during Christmas time and during a pandemic when finances are extremely tight Chicken £3, potatoes £1, carrots and parsnips 70p, York...
by dsr
Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Anthony Higginbotham
Replies: 391
Views: 9128

Re: Anthony Higginbotham

What I can't understand is the article on one of the news programmes tonight about breakfast clubs for children because their parents can't afford to give them breakfast. They go to breakfast club and have a slice of toast. A slice of bread costs 4p. Put some cheap jam on it, 5p. What sort of parent...
by dsr
Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is the fix now worse than the problem?
Replies: 200
Views: 4020

Re: Is the fix now worse than the problem?

Nope, they were pretty consistent at the start of this in saying it’d take at least a year. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/22/best-scenario-will-see-oxford-coronavirus-vaccine-ready-roll/ https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-vaccine-could-be-ready-by-september-flmwl257x https://...
by dsr
Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is the fix now worse than the problem?
Replies: 200
Views: 4020

Re: Is the fix now worse than the problem?

That amused me as it made me think of my cousins husband who believe it or not is a nuclear physicist and a Burnley fan. I've known him for 40 years and whenever we meet up for family do's I always ask about nuclear fusion and the clean energy that that would bring. And he always joked that it was ...
by dsr
Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is the fix now worse than the problem?
Replies: 200
Views: 4020

Re: Is the fix now worse than the problem?

Any pandemic management strategy relying upon immunity from natural infections for COVID-19 is flawed. Uncontrolled transmission in younger people risks significant morbidity and mortality across the whole population. In addition to the human cost, this would impact the workforce as a whole and ove...
by dsr
Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is the fix now worse than the problem?
Replies: 200
Views: 4020

Re: Is the fix now worse than the problem?

A severe hit to the economy will only cost lives because we choose to let it cost lives. We can choose to feed and house people, if we want to. Do you choose to? Regardless of coronavirus, there are millions of people around the world literally starving to death who could be saved if we gave some o...
by dsr
Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is the fix now worse than the problem?
Replies: 200
Views: 4020

Re: Is the fix now worse than the problem?

Where are the numbers for long covid? There must be some stats somewhere about how many people who caught the disease in March-April are still suffering. I doubt that there are as many as Crosspool estimates, which is at least 4 times the number of deaths.
by dsr
Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Disallow a Goal from Clarets History
Replies: 28
Views: 1539

Re: Disallow a Goal from Clarets History

whentheballmoves wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:06 pm
Hamburg's away goal in 1961???
Any of Hamburg's goals being disallowed would have got us a replay. They didn't have the away goals rule then. Can I add that our last minute shot that hit the post should have a friendly Russian linesman standing by to give the goal?
by dsr
Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is the fix now worse than the problem?
Replies: 200
Views: 4020

Re: Is the fix now worse than the problem?

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:47 pm
It will reach those heights, and beyond.
Obviously there is little or no statistical evidence to suggest it will be worse, so why are you so adamant that it will be worse this time?
by dsr
Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 843
Views: 16129

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

Yes, there are lots of countries with free trade agreements with the EU. I can't say I'm particularly familiar with the deals but I know that most have significant rules on state aid (which is understandable for a free trade agreement) which is a sticking point for the UK. I don't think it's rules ...
by dsr
Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 843
Views: 16129

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

aggi wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:55 pm
Korea is now in the EU? And Colombia? And Georgia?
I didn't realise those countries had free trade with the EU. But if there are countries with free trade with the EU, then why can't we be one of them? Or has the EU used its muscle to enforce EU laws on them as well?
by dsr
Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is the fix now worse than the problem?
Replies: 200
Views: 4020

Re: Is the fix now worse than the problem?

I am fascinated by the way some people are going with this thing. Can you imagine if we were given the option of shutting down the economy or allowing a terrorist attack to kill 10,000 people? Does anyone seriously believe that we'd even think about keeping the economy open? This thing is a natural...
by dsr
Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 843
Views: 16129

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

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by dsr
Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 843
Views: 16129

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

Burnley Ace wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:12 pm
Our goods (costs) would be cheaper. We would be an offshore warehouse for the rest of the world selling into the EU.
A free trade hub, in fact. Like I said, the EU doesn't want free trade except within its own protectionist borders.
by dsr
Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 843
Views: 16129

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

Can’t. What’s the point of paying to be in the EU, adhering to all the rules and regs, when the UK gets a tariff free deal and can undercut them on costs etc. So are you saying that the free trade aspect of the EU is good, but the net of the other aspects is bad? In which case, the answer to the qu...
by dsr
Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!
Replies: 843
Views: 16129

Re: Wow BJ eviscerates the EU!!!

Burnley Ace wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:24 pm
We would win and they would lose, which is why there will never be a free trade agreement, they just can’t do it.
Why? Are they not as good at trading as we are? The EU has a large trade surplus with the UK, even when service industries are included.