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by CoolClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Players out of position
Replies: 48
Views: 2461

Re: Players out of position

Hahaha and there we have it. Have you ever heard of the offside rule? Hilarious It's a poor goal to concede as a collective, I don't think it's purely on one player at all - the entire backline was staggered there, you expect someone in defence to organise the back line in those situations. He's no...
by CoolClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Players out of position
Replies: 48
Views: 2461

Re: Players out of position

You might neee the angle from the side where he’s playing the guy on. I have but Vitinho has just taken a throw in there and is making his way up with the rest of the line, Ekdal wasn't in line with O'Shea and Assignon either. If anyone it's Ekdal for letting a guy be stood behind him between the l...
by CoolClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Players out of position
Replies: 48
Views: 2461

Re: Players out of position

Goliath wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:37 pm
If you think he was fine today thrn theres no point in discussing football with you. You clearly have no clue.
Maybe watch the replay of the second goal.
The second goal? What are you on about there?

How are you blaming that on Vitinho?
by CoolClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Players out of position
Replies: 48
Views: 2461

Re: Players out of position

Your obsessive hatred over Vitinho is beyond weird mate.

How do you think an Accy bench player would fair against Doku in a midweek game?

It's just nonsense, he was absolutely fine today.
by CoolClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TRAFFORD
Replies: 808
Views: 30886

Re: TRAFFORD

Still not seeing it myself either. Think he makes the team noticeably worse.
by CoolClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ramsey
Replies: 72
Views: 4253

Re: Ramsey

Ramsey I do have hopes for the future tbh

Amdouni? Be at a team like Empoli or Trabzonspor I feel. Just not a PL player - strange signing.
by CoolClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Clarets vs Fulham
Replies: 403
Views: 12491

Re: Clarets vs Fulham

Fofana, Esteve, Assignon all impressing,

Ramsey and Amoundi I don't want to see play another minute this season, particularly Amdouni. .
by CoolClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Clarets vs Fulham
Replies: 403
Views: 12491

Re: Clarets vs Fulham

So noticeable having a proper left footer at LCB, impressed me has Esteve
by CoolClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Players out of position
Replies: 48
Views: 2461

Re: Players out of position

If i was a supporter of a League 1 team, I genuinely still wouldnt want Vitinho as a full back. Hes an absolute liability, no defensive awareness, utterly cowardly in the air, positioning is dreadful, poor on the ball, doesnt create. Its the first time in my whole time watching Burnley that ive eve...
by CoolClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Clarets vs Fulham
Replies: 403
Views: 12491

Re: Clarets vs Fulham

Best part of 60-65 mill on Ramsey, Tresor, Amdouni and Traff and non of them have improved us one jot.

That's unforgivable.
by CoolClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Loan players - Stay or Go
Replies: 30
Views: 1870

Re: Loan players - Stay or Go

PSV reserves in the second division. Egan-Riley playing for PSV’s 21s team in the league below. Also reports suggested a buy option in the deal I think? Ahh, even still.. you never know. Just found this from some Hibees fans views of his time up in Edinburgh: https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?362...
by CoolClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Loan players - Stay or Go
Replies: 30
Views: 1870

Re: Loan players - Stay or Go

I wouldn't sleep on CJ Egan-Riley;

Just 21 and playing on loan at a big club competing for a title and sat at the top of the Eredivisie - could easily kick on.
by CoolClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bellingham v Greenwood
Replies: 10
Views: 1262

Re: Bellingham v Greenwood

Just love JB more with each passing day
by CoolClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jimmy Anderson
Replies: 48
Views: 3454

Re: Jimmy Anderson

Just took 3-47 to wrap India up for 396

As a 41 yr old seamer in India, bowling Jaiswal out for 209, Shubman Gill and Ashwin.

Just staggering. What a man.
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: One club man
Replies: 27
Views: 1502

Re: One club man

Daniele De Rossi was the last of them, sadly.

Nothing wrong with reflecting on times gone past - not everything was sunshine and rainbows but memories are all we have at the end of the day..
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Q and A Sessions with VK
Replies: 90
Views: 4208

Re: Q and A Sessions with VK

So I see it that the old regime were living on a wing and a prayer, got lucky (by Dyche’s brilliance) and got rich (er). Very different to Kilby who genuinely seemed to put the club ahead of himself. Now, there is risk, sure, but it is risk that at least offers us something as customers to enjoy. I...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat
Replies: 113
Views: 6938

Re: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat

Casper2 wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:17 pm
He was totally disinterested at Bournemouth, no excuses for that , Kompany isn’t stupid .
Agaim, using this logic half the squad would never have a kick again.
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jimmy Anderson
Replies: 48
Views: 3454

Re: Jimmy Anderson

Heard the Mayor of Burnley on the Tailenders podcast a while ago explaining how difficult it would be to re-name a street after Jimmy. Change of addresses, change of house titles, confusing the P.O. etc. etc. I sat there listening and thinking - "just build the bloody statue." He deserves nothing l...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Q and A Sessions with VK
Replies: 90
Views: 4208

Re: Q and A Sessions with VK

The problem is the “security” under the old ownership was an illusion, but one we were happy to bathe in. The fattening up of the balance sheet went towards their sale proceeds, none of us know if that was deliberate all the way through. But if they had taken the cash throughout their tenure the “f...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: More young signings
Replies: 56
Views: 3443

Re: More young signings

I'll elaborate a bit more - When the NFL draft rolls around, there is always a balance to be had of drafting between 'needs' vs 'wants'. The best teams that have long term success tend to nail the 'needs' and do not tend to get caught up with the drama and razmatazz of drafting the flashy 'wants'. O...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: More young signings
Replies: 56
Views: 3443

Re: More young signings

I don't know what people mean. But I do understand that PL ready players are out of our budget. Not sure we should buy a similar player to Berge, if that is what you mean. Crossing wires here I think bb, I don't mean a similar player to Berge like that - I mean sort of 25-28 ish, not necessarily PL...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jimmy Anderson
Replies: 48
Views: 3454

Re: Jimmy Anderson

If he was a Yorkshireman, there would already be statues and roads and sports centres named after him county wide, and the kaiser chiefs would have made a hit record about him. Jimmy Anderson is my number 1 sportsman of all time. I can understand people claiming it’s Sarah storey, or Chris hoy, or ...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jimmy Anderson
Replies: 48
Views: 3454

Jimmy Anderson

Still taking wickets at 41 at arguably the hardest place in World Cricket to go and be successful as a seamer/swing bowler.

What an icon - arguably England/Britain's greatest ever sportsman, or at least in the conversation.
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Q and A Sessions with VK
Replies: 90
Views: 4208

Re: Q and A Sessions with VK

No, but I think plenty of people were feeling fed up and losing interest. Not sure if that’s the exact definition of “detached”, but it’s in the same territory. I’ve certainly felt that way plenty of times over the years, then change comes and I’m engaged again - never more so than last year when i...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat
Replies: 113
Views: 6938

Re: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat

I think what is fair to say is that social media, highlights, FIFA, FM, FOTMOB, SofaScore hyper analysis etc etc has completely distorted a lot of viewers' opinions on football or what makes a footballer.

It's really not as simple as some like to make out.
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat
Replies: 113
Views: 6938

Re: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat

I slightly disagree in that Zaroury's a more attack-oriented player with a focus on goal contributions, an attacking winger rather than a wide playmaker, but I do agree overall that his output tailing off (which yes represents a dip in 'form' in terms of his own personal goal contributions) is more...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat
Replies: 113
Views: 6938

Re: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat

I think that can be (and is) true as well. We made mistakes last summer. But we are where we are and have to manage the players and squad we have now as best we can. We do that in the here and now, not by wishing about what we might have done last summer. Upgrades at full back and perhaps more ball...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat
Replies: 113
Views: 6938

Re: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat

My own view is that three things can all be true: 1. Zaroury was terrific last season, contributed loads and showed huge potential (and I agree that his contribution outweighed his stats because he increasingly played a role in stretching teams and creating the space, and playing the initial passes...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Q and A Sessions with VK
Replies: 90
Views: 4208

Re: Q and A Sessions with VK

The flip side to all this of course is that if you went back 2-3 years on here, there was also a sense of apathy and detachment towards the team and the old board. “Stale” was the “buzzword” back then. Similar in post ITV-Digital Stan day, much of Cotterill’s reign, Law’s time and a lot of Howe’s s...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Q and A Sessions with VK
Replies: 90
Views: 4208

Re: Q and A Sessions with VK

You've spectacularly misunderstood what I'm saying, judging by this odd reply. Did you misread the first bit you bolded? Was last season your first season? The latter years under Dyche were an absolute grind but, and I only speak for myself, I felt there was more of a connection with the team and t...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Q and A Sessions with VK
Replies: 90
Views: 4208

Re: Q and A Sessions with VK

To pick up on those couple of points in bold, what you’re saying is that if the exact same circumstances were true but we were winning this season, everyone would feel “attached”. Hence by definition the cause of “detachment” isn’t the circumstances but the outcome (not winning). Clearly it’s much ...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat
Replies: 113
Views: 6938

Re: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat

The clue to Zaroury being overrated (but with huge potential) is last season when at home he had 5 goals 5 assists and away he had 2 goals 0 assists. A mark of a good player is doing it away from home. He didn’t do it much last season in the league below (Sunderland away second half an exception) s...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat
Replies: 113
Views: 6938

Re: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat

Some fans need to go and rewatch some of Anass' performances last season. Kid is genuinely two footed and has a pearler of a cross, shot and pass with both feet. I like Koleosho and Odobert - they all have differing skillsets - I don't think Koleosho or Odobert play that pass in behind to Amdouni th...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley sign French defender Estève
Replies: 43
Views: 4034

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley sign French defender Estève

I actually like the look of this guy - seems very happy to be here which is always a big plus. Could tell in his interview that it wasn't the usual regurgitated monotone drone that you usually expect from players that have had extensive media training, even if he was speaking in en français.
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Q and A Sessions with VK
Replies: 90
Views: 4208

Re: Q and A Sessions with VK

Is this your way of saying you’re feeling “detached”? Not particularly 'my way', no. For me - I just find a lot of the decisions baffling and not conducive to squad harmony/unity and I think it's fair in the results on the pitch. Seen games like I've said where we've just been passengers and lots o...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Q and A Sessions with VK
Replies: 90
Views: 4208

Re: Q and A Sessions with VK

:lol: :lol: I laugh and cringe in equal measure when someone says they’re “detached”. Why? Because the club have let their favourite player go on loan or something. Or there has t been a recent manager Q&A, which I’m not sure there ever has been tbh. Nope, it’s because we’re losing a lot. Next year...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: More young signings
Replies: 56
Views: 3443

Re: More young signings

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:54 am
When Broja, for example, gets valued at about £50million it's not difficult to see why we are buying young, cheaper options and trying to develop them.
People just mean a few more in the Berge mould, not a 22yr old Chelsea player
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: More young signings
Replies: 56
Views: 3443

Re: More young signings

we all waned THB, he was 21 and untried in the PL Tella was only 24 Maatsen 21 What we are doing now isn't anything new For me this was just trying to keep a team ethos and continuity to hit the PL running and ride that wave and slowly bed in new players. That's what I think we got wrong more than ...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
Replies: 129
Views: 6711

Re: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:16 am
You’re proper full of poo, let’s only show appreciation to those VK isn’t picking to start!
Just not true is it?

How old are you now?! - thought you'd 'grown up'
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
Replies: 129
Views: 6711

Re: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds

While I’m not really a fan of Roberts of a player. He has a good record and will be a pretty valuable asset. We paid f all for him as well so not bad business. What I’m confused about is the fact we’ve got rid of one of our two right backs. We started the season with one left back, now we’ve brough...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
Replies: 129
Views: 6711

Re: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds

The same should be said for players currently wearing the shirt The ones that put a shift in and are tenacious/don't look hard done to get my full support. Didn’t you once start a thread specifically to dig out Dara O’Shea? I did - I also reflected and made another one about 6 gameweeks later, givi...
by CoolClaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
Replies: 129
Views: 6711

Re: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds

Christ almighty can we please give kudos and appreciation to players that have shown commitment and actually done something in a Burnley shirt?

Some horrid entitlement and chastising of players now. Decent lad is Connor - wish him all the best.
by CoolClaret
Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
Replies: 129
Views: 6711

Re: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds

Apparently already said he wants to stay there permanently to The Athletic. Hes wanted out since he got here imo, im not sorry to see him go. He has to play in a team that dominates possession or hes a bang average full back even at champ level. Daft comment: https://x.com/ConnorRobs/status/1644622...
by CoolClaret
Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds
Replies: 129
Views: 6711

Re: ARTICLE: Roberts moves to Leeds

A lot of loans and loans with options to buy around Europe -

Shows how mental football is now, clubs everywhere just financing deals in very abstract ways, kicking the can down the road..

On topic - it's not quite Robbie Blake signing for Leeds gut-wrenching, but it's not great.
by CoolClaret
Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat
Replies: 113
Views: 6938

Re: ARTICLE: Zaroury leaves for Hull in a Heartbeat

Casper2 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:14 pm
Sealed his own fate at Bournemouth
Silly this.

Every single player in our squad that has played has had a game like that this season.

If Amdouni bagged that chance at Spurs away that Zaroury set him up with it's on highlight reels for a week straight.
by CoolClaret
Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Charlie Taylor
Replies: 24
Views: 3697

Charlie Taylor

What's the latest on Chaz btw?

We really need him - now more than ever, though is could be said Ameen Al-Dakhil did well as a stand in last night, seems like having a bit of time out of the side to naturally develop has helped him.

Would just prefer to... not have a stand in, if you catch my drift.
by CoolClaret
Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Actual Transfer News - NO BICKERING or pointless debates...
Replies: 386
Views: 51491

Re: Actual Transfer News - NO BICKERING or pointless debates...

I thought Anass played well when he came on and offers something different - shame to see him leave.

January is always a tough window - I think Fofana for the rest of the season and the two we signed could be good for us though.
by CoolClaret
Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: January transfer window rumours.
Replies: 2353
Views: 286873

Re: January transfer window rumours.

I really hope we stay up.

Come on lads. I promise no more negativity. It will be massive if we can stay up and kick on.

Beat Fulham 🙏
by CoolClaret
Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: PREVIEW: Etihad beckons for Burnley
Replies: 25
Views: 1441

Re: PREVIEW: Etihad beckons for Burnley

Peak UTC
by CoolClaret
Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We will beat Fulham
Replies: 58
Views: 3430

Re: We will beat Fulham

fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:42 pm
Believe what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH65jS-EseQ