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by Jakubclaret
Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 10657

Re: James Trafford's Contract

Totally the opposite. It's because contracts for personal services can't be enforced that the clubs want exit clauses for when their employee refuses to do his job. If Roy Race says that he will no longer play for or manage Melchester Rovers, then there is nothing in law that can make him. It is un...
by Jakubclaret
Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 10657

Re: James Trafford's Contract

taio wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:41 am
No doubt. Just doesn't happen and nor should it.
It remains in doubt to me because I don't have any inside knowledge concerning JTs contract if you are sure about something obviously you do.
by Jakubclaret
Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ouch- feels like a defeat that!
Replies: 52
Views: 3410

Re: Ouch- feels like a defeat that!

Or…..Luton, Sheffield and ourselves all draw away and close the gap to Everton and Forest, but we do it against far superior opposition. It's a very small sliver the superior opposition which is cancelled out by a game less if that's the rate of progress which translates into some meaningful escape...
by Jakubclaret
Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Recruitment
Replies: 35
Views: 2189

Re: Recruitment

Our only home win was against them and it was a 5-0 hammering. Tells you all you need to know about them. We've a better squad with heaps more potential at the level below than their team of more or less journeymen. Generally accepted by the wider media that we've been better and should have more p...
by Jakubclaret
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 10657

Re: James Trafford's Contract

JohnMac wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:30 am
VK will not have any say in how much we pay for a player, the days of Managers negotiating contracts are long gone.
He'll have influence if anything far too much.
by Jakubclaret
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 10657

Re: James Trafford's Contract

JohnMac wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:22 am
The Club pursued Verbruggen until it was beyond our reach and he signed for Brighton so unlikely VK wanted Trafford so badly ...
Enough to pay well over the odds suggest he did.
by Jakubclaret
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 10657

Re: James Trafford's Contract

dsr wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:16 am
It probably wouldn't be enforceable because contracts for personal services can't be enforced. I think it will work both ways.
He's under employment he's contracted. If what you are saying is correct no need would exist for all the clauses & contract conditions that exist.
by Jakubclaret
Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 10657

Re: James Trafford's Contract

taio wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:00 am
But not perfectly reasonable for the other party.
Of course both parties need to agree that goes without saying. We all know how bad Kompany wanted Trafford enough to agree to that remains in doubt.
by Jakubclaret
Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 10657

Re: James Trafford's Contract

Pure crackpot to think that such things are written into contracts in the PL in the modern day. Stuff like this will have happened way back when when things were a bit more 'cowboy' (for want of a better term) or stars being brought into development leagues or something but this is just madness. It...
by Jakubclaret
Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 10657

Re: James Trafford's Contract

TopCat wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:43 am
And if it was breached does that mean he has to go back?
I don't know about that or if it's a condition that he has to play. But if it's in his contract it's enforceable I'm certain of that.
by Jakubclaret
Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 10657

Re: James Trafford's Contract

Anything is enforceable providing all parties agree to it & it's safe & legal.
by Jakubclaret
Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 10657

Re: James Trafford's Contract

No, it's not correct. It's a silly rumour, possibly made up by people who can't believe that Kompany could disagree with them. No club would ever put that contract term in, and it probably wouldn't be enforceable anyway. (And what possible interest could a previous club have in such a clause?) Why ...
by Jakubclaret
Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 10657

Re: James Trafford's Contract

I occasionally read on here that Trafford has a clause in his contract that he must be selected to play except for injury Is this correct? He is a signed player not a loan. Is he , or his previous club able to enforce such a contract condition? (apologies if this is a repeat query. My computer skil...
by Jakubclaret
Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Unpopular opinions
Replies: 126
Views: 6330

Re: Unpopular opinions

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:37 pm
Yep, I agree. Doubt we’d be in a different position but would’ve offered more balance for sure. Strange one.
Lots of things are strange. It's a club where people aren't making best interest decisions & there's a complete lack of accountability.
by Jakubclaret
Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Recruitment
Replies: 35
Views: 2189

Re: Recruitment

There's not much in it it's a sad state of affairs when the last chink of positivity rests on not finishing bottom & that's all realistically that's left of a dark season that could & should have been far different.
by Jakubclaret
Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Unpopular opinions
Replies: 126
Views: 6330

Re: Unpopular opinions

In hindsight it looks a bit strange we went for a 6th left sided winger in Redmond over Townsend who’s looked decent in the right whenever he’s played. Can only imagine it was his age that factored in (Redmond a couple of years younger). It was a mistake not getting him I'm pretty sure he would hav...
by Jakubclaret
Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Unpopular opinions
Replies: 126
Views: 6330

Re: Unpopular opinions

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:38 pm
Wow
It's not bad to say he's only getting thrown on towards the end. He's doing far more than anyone we've got in the short space of time he's featuring.
by Jakubclaret
Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Unpopular opinions
Replies: 126
Views: 6330

Re: Unpopular opinions

Nori1958 wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:44 pm
I've just checked townsends stats

1 goal
2 assists
You can add another assist to that.
by Jakubclaret
Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany quote
Replies: 161
Views: 7917

Re: Kompany quote

He's made a rod for his own back with the haphazard approach to recruiting mainly targeting players he thinks the club can make a quick buck on in the future & not focusing on what's needed to be competitive in the top league. I think he thought he could get away with it but no margin for error it's...
by Jakubclaret
Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fan’s View (version 2)
Replies: 58
Views: 4200

Re: Fan’s View (version 2)

I’m going to have to disagree, it’s basic financial management to mitigate and plan for possible and probable events. Surely we aren't talking about the same Einstein who somehow managed to take a gamble firing a manager who pretty much specialises in tried & trusted methods ensuring teams don't ge...
by Jakubclaret
Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fan’s View (version 2)
Replies: 58
Views: 4200

Re: Fan’s View (version 2)

Holtyclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:45 pm
Absolutely, it wouldn’t be cheap but isn’t ’unaffordable‘ by any stretch should the need arise.

Not that I’m expecting it anytime soon.
Not if you keep on borrowing it isn't.
by Jakubclaret
Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Unpopular opinions
Replies: 126
Views: 6330

Re: Unpopular opinions

I think it was Koleosho who was signed instead, so that was the better deal Nothing in it for me between Redmond and townsend, so nothing lost there It's difficult to compare between them all. I can remember the big fuss when we was in for Townsend all the baloney about fitness issues & previous in...
by Jakubclaret
Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Unpopular opinions
Replies: 126
Views: 6330

Re: Unpopular opinions

Nori1958 wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:13 pm
So not even 1st choice
He doesn't have to be they aren't doing so bad without him. Townsend would have only played a similar role for us as redmond, well before he got injured. Townsend was a wage until the season ended & a option the question is would he have been a better option.
by Jakubclaret
Wed Mar 06, 2024 3:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fan’s View (version 2)
Replies: 58
Views: 4200

Re: Fan’s View (version 2)

About 20 times you’ve said we can’t afford to sack him. Roughly, very ball park, how much do you envisage it’d cost us? When’s his contract up? Do you think it’d be cheaper to sack him as a champ manager (another year further into his contract and you’d imagine on a reduced salary )? Don’t you thin...
by Jakubclaret
Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany quote
Replies: 161
Views: 7917

Re: Kompany quote

I honestly don't understand how some fans think we'll maintain this squad and add to it, it's guaranteed we sell this summer. Any decent offers will be considered then we'll try and rebuild again that's what's made this season so daft because we can't keep doing it that way. We've spent all our pre...
by Jakubclaret
Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Unpopular opinions
Replies: 126
Views: 6330

Re: Unpopular opinions

As a substitute most games for the balance of fairness.
by Jakubclaret
Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Unpopular opinions
Replies: 126
Views: 6330

Re: Unpopular opinions

If you never make the enquiries to start with it stands to reason you'll never make the signings.
by Jakubclaret
Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fan’s View (version 2)
Replies: 58
Views: 4200

Re: Fan’s View (version 2)

You have repeated this point on multiple threads despite the fact that you have very little or no understanding of our financial situation. Some very basic questions for you which you should know the answer to given how many times you have raised this point. 1. How much do you believe our current d...
by Jakubclaret
Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fan’s View (version 2)
Replies: 58
Views: 4200

Re: Fan’s View (version 2)

I am with this article - the angriest shout the loudest .... no one is happy we have 13 points but I think 80% of fans want him to stay and 19% of the fans that want him to go will quickly change their minds if we are smashing it again 10 games into next season.... that said .... if we are nowhere ...
by Jakubclaret
Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fan’s View (version 2)
Replies: 58
Views: 4200

Re: Fan’s View (version 2)

Perhaps he read the thread on here where the majority wanted him to stay Perhaps he doesn't hear any Kompany out chants at games to be able to come to that conclusion I didn't say I agreed with everything he said, or supported everything he said, I just that it was a more balanced article than vers...
by Jakubclaret
Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Unpopular opinions
Replies: 126
Views: 6330

Re: Unpopular opinions

Team who finished 21 points behind Burnley, spent 20% of what Burnley did and currently have almost 50% more points this season, suggests one team is progressing and one is regressing? Does that matter? Burnley have acquired talented individuals, Luton have improved their team. I think that's overb...
by Jakubclaret
Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany quote
Replies: 161
Views: 7917

Re: Kompany quote

fidelcastro wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:30 pm
You seem to be saying we can't afford to sack him.

Is that because of the money we've squandered this season or as well as?
You could say that & it wouldn't have helped. Quite a clever strategy when you think about it spend all the dosh so there's not enough to pay you out :lol:
by Jakubclaret
Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany quote
Replies: 161
Views: 7917

Re: Kompany quote

fidelcastro wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:23 pm
I wouldn't expect him to.
You said VK should change jobs. Either he walks away with something or he stays. What you are proposing doesn't make sense.
by Jakubclaret
Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany quote
Replies: 161
Views: 7917

Re: Kompany quote

fidelcastro wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:21 pm
Not for the first time, I've no idea what you're talking about.
He won't be walking away with nothing.
by Jakubclaret
Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany quote
Replies: 161
Views: 7917

Re: Kompany quote

fidelcastro wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:16 pm
Thankfully you changed that job.

VK should do the same. I don't want him to learn by failing any more, thanks all the same.
You must have £20 mil probably north as a rough estimate spare knocking around as loose change.
by Jakubclaret
Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany quote
Replies: 161
Views: 7917

Re: Kompany quote

According to some on here in the not too recent past he was destined for the dizzy heights managing man city. The sensible 1s called the crap out & said just wait let's see how he does this season first.
by Jakubclaret
Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The objective for the rest of the season
Replies: 95
Views: 5671

Re: The objective for the rest of the season

A bit embarrassing I agree but if Burnley are aiming at being a yo yo club then it doesn’t really matter I suppose. That served west brom well for awhile it's been a few years now in the wilderness. You just aren't guaranteed to keep bouncing back I think more than a few people will be in for a sho...
by Jakubclaret
Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leicester
Replies: 14
Views: 2269

Re: Leicester

I'd hardly call the loss of Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha "getting away with it" granted they'd be in a far better position if he was still alive for sure. He cared about the club far more than the other members of the family.
by Jakubclaret
Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mud analytics
Replies: 273
Views: 9088

Re: Mud analytics

It's possible. But realistically Kompany is a very rich man. He spent multiple seasons on an eight figure salary and he could do that again if his managerial career is successful and he ends up at Man City. Is he going to endanger his ambition in order to get a bit of commission on a player sale? I...
by Jakubclaret
Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonight’s Football
Replies: 180
Views: 4789

Re: Tonight’s Football

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:27 pm
thank the lord we didn't go for Wilder
Indeed. It's frightening what we ended up with though :roll: at this level anyhow.
by Jakubclaret
Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonight’s Football
Replies: 180
Views: 4789

Re: Tonight’s Football

Conroysleftfoot wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:24 pm
West Ham in the top half didn't run them close.
Although not top half palace got a good hiding as well. arsenal are a top team.
by Jakubclaret
Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fans turning on each other
Replies: 66
Views: 5447

Re: Fans turning on each other

TPClaret wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:18 pm
Going well tonight
Wilders still got more points than Kompany since being reappointed.
by Jakubclaret
Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fans turning on each other
Replies: 66
Views: 5447

Re: Fans turning on each other

Hapag Lloyd wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:58 pm
They’ve lost their last 2 home games 5-0
I'm on about the points accrued since he took over. Isn't it something like 2 wins & a draw 7pts that's over half we've accrued all season & he didn't start the season.
by Jakubclaret
Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fans turning on each other
Replies: 66
Views: 5447

Re: Fans turning on each other

Hapag Lloyd wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:52 pm
A few on here would be celebrating, including yourself.
It makes no odds either way to me we are both going down too far adrift imo.
by Jakubclaret
Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fans turning on each other
Replies: 66
Views: 5447

Re: Fans turning on each other

daveisaclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:52 pm
They haven't had a heavier defeat since
They have significantly improved performance wise since heckingbottom although the results could have been better. Wilders actually gained more points than Kompany since being reappointed on a game by game comparison.
by Jakubclaret
Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fans turning on each other
Replies: 66
Views: 5447

Re: Fans turning on each other

It must feel like an almighty consolation to some people to be reassured that we aren't the worst team in the PL heaven forbid how people will react if they get any sort of result tonight against arsenal & in doing so dump as down at the bottom.
by Jakubclaret
Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fans turning on each other
Replies: 66
Views: 5447

Re: Fans turning on each other

I don't know about turning on each other it might be more productive turning on the players & on another thread you have people applauding the players even after playing poorly & people actually wonder why things are in a mess.
by Jakubclaret
Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What must Vigeroux be thinking ??
Replies: 21
Views: 2240

Re: What must Vigeroux be thinking ??

Another on the gravy train best filed alongside the rest.
by Jakubclaret
Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The objective for the rest of the season
Replies: 95
Views: 5671

Re: The objective for the rest of the season

I suppose I'm placing more focus on it than I should do to be fair - I acknowledge that. That's because every time I come on this messageboard - which is much less than I used to because I'm sick to death of half a dozen posters on here who don't even go to games - I see the same few posters regurg...
by Jakubclaret
Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Bournemouth
Replies: 53
Views: 2575

Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Bournemouth

Yes because some posters when we don’t win or get a decent draw blame the referee or VAR for defeat when clearly the team we keep starting with and substitutes like Jay Rod brought on sometimes in stoppage time Our goal was correctly disallowed for a foul and the VAR check for an early second half ...