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Greenmile wrote:I asked Ringo (in the style of Ringo, hence no real room for reasonable debate) for a yes or no answer, so yes or no is all I'm accepting, I'm afraid.

Yes, well. Normal conversation doesn't involve setting the rules for how the other person speaks.

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Two that spring to mind is David Jones debut away at Leyton Orient and Nick Pickering at home to someone I can't remember. Not Pickering's debut, though. Wasn't that against York City, 6-0 win? He looked a good player that day. Or did you mean every other game Pickering played for Burnley? Because ...

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So your answer to my original question (to Ringo) ... Is actually ”yes” and not - as you originally wrote - “no”. Thanks for clearing up your mistake. Not a mistake. It's just a difference in emphasis. You're concerned with strict legal technicalities, I'm concerned with the real world effects. If ...

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Just to reiterate, the May deal means we leave the EU. And if you're happy with that level of integrity from your politicians, i n all respects not just the EU vote, then that's your prerogative. And to answer the point below, if your opinion is genuinely that all that people wanted was to cross ou...

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The only thing we know (some of) “the people” wanted was to leave the EU. May’s proposals would achieve that (no matter how much you want to lie to yourself and others that they don’t). Ergo, the will of (some of) the people will have been respected. And as in the Irish example, if the Irish govern...

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So where can I find out ‘what the people wanted’ then? Was there some sort of Leave manifesto that defined what leave meant? You’re the third person I’ve asked, no response from anyone. What exactly did the people want? Independence from the EU would certainly be on the list. Whatever else people m...

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He can I not believe it, it’s a fact! You’re either a member of the EU or you aren’t! The bit I hope you don't believe is that it would mean "Democracy triumphs". It's the same sort of argument that Remainers were using when they claimed the result was advisory only. "Democracy" means doing what th...

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martin_p wrote:There’s no such thing as a de facto member, as Ringo would no doubt argue, it’s a binary question, are we in or out. As you’ve identified, we’re out. Democracy triumphs!

I really hope you don't believe that.

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What's the use of an MP who is as stupid as that? Immoral but competent, I could possibly cope with. Honest but useless, fine on the back benches - as the MP who was called a "bloody idiot", pointed out, "even bloody idiots deserve some representation". But when you get an MP who is both corrupt and...

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A democratically elected government is carrying out the result of that referendum, and you can’t stop whinging about exactly how they are choosing to go about it, so where does that leave your democratic credentials? Would May’s proposals involve us leaving the EU? Yes or no? No. If we're still pay...

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Assuming it were put to the vote, and assuming 'remain' really did mean 'remain on current terms', anybody else willing to commit to an order of preference? 1. Leave 2. I probably wouldn't have a second vote. May's fudge is abysmal, and it's possible that remaining in might leave us in a better pos...

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I think May's deal would be knocked out, too. But the second round would be between no-deal and remain, a fundamentally different choice to the original referendum, and the result might therefore be completely different. It might indeed. It could be about two thirds remain, but I'm pretty sure that...

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I would have thought that the proposed AV would make no difference to the result. Taking the referendum result as a starting point, we had: Remain 48% Leave 52% So if we have a 3-way referendum, the result (all else being equal) Remain 48% less x% for May's deal Leave 52% less y% for May's deal May'...

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Yeah, i really am ****** off at how the EU have forced Schengen and the Euro on us, forced us to have no rebate and also about how we have the EU army patrolling our streets. No wonder we voted to leave Just because we have those opt-outs now, doesn't mean we would have them if we applied to withdr...

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tim_noone wrote:It's ok I've been licking mine for weeks now.

Licking what - the plate or the toilet?

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Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:Not if you have synchronised jumping!

Synchronised falling over and appealing for a penalty, perhaps. All the arms fly upwards at the same rate, whether tripped, pushed, or shot.

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Cheers for that, for some reason i thought it applied to accidental hand ball back in the sixties (showing my age here) :D Nope, never. The refs were a lot less likely to give handball for non-intentional but "hand in an unnatural position" handballs in those days. There was one that (I think) Keit...

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Imploding Turtle wrote:You forgot the obvious one

instead of being a smart alec, why not just say what the obvious 1970's indirect free kick was that I have missed?

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It's so long since I played, but why could you get an indirect FK in the box? I'm going back to the 70's here. Obstruction and dangerous play, basically. And the goalkeeper taking more than four steps, but that was enforced about as often as the current one of the goalkeeper holding onto the ball f...

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What do you mean "without warning"? It travelled about 30 ******* yards. Lol. And then at the last split second he put his hand down towards the path of the ball. Are you sure he knew for certain that the ball wouldn't be deflected? You want to look at other people jumping up for headers. You check...

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Today's VAR penalty was the correct decision. The slow-mo actually helps with this. His hand moves slowly down and then clearly sped up, which if it hadn't then it wouldn't have made contact with the ball. That change in speed almost impossible to notice in real-time, but stuck out immediately to m...

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Nick Pope. He'd have saved everything!

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The law needs changing so any handball is handball. The onus is then on the player to keep his arms tucked away. But FIFA love controversy so it won’t happen. If FIFA loved controversy, they would change the rule like you say. Then you'd get the controversy over whether the ball brushed the player'...

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The first goal looked offside as well. I'm sure the French forward who challenged for the ball was in an offside position when the kick was taken.

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Have the Austrians not been paid? Some of them appeared to be on strike.

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It's a stupid analogy. Asking with those idiots who say "if i can balance my chequebook then why can't the government balance the budget?" I'm going to try and think of some similar versions to demonstrate how stupid it is. Here's one. Corbyn doesn't want us to have nukes. the right-wing loves them...

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Of course, if there were more people like the lady in the photo, there would be less of a problem. But so few people are willing to provide a home for refugee families. How many people on here could genuinely say they will take a refugee family into their home? I wouldn't.

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The £3.5m was the trigger whoever sanctioned such a low clause is at fault, done differently quadruple that amount should have been the bare minimum, even taking the age into consideration give him a sweetener then sell high later. Trippier would never have agreed an escape clause so much higher th...

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JP McEnroe wants to learn to shut up. OK, so he doesn't like long games and wants them to get off court because he's bored. So what. He's paid to commentate on the game, not to moan and groan. Presumably he was well happy with the women's semis yesterday - 2 matches, 4 sets, less than two and a half...

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You could argue that every mass murderer,rapist,paedophile etc have some kind of mental health issues. Oh, well in that case, problem solved. It's easier for a sane person to repent and reform than it is for someone which such desperately serious mental health issues to recover. If you're so mental...

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karatekid wrote:So was SD wrong to think he could offer something to the squad?

No, because he did offer something. But not enough to make him worth a permanent signing.

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I'd have thought everyone who is fit and hasn't played much, will be playing tomorrow. Same team as for the first Belgium game, perhaps.

If he does that, I can't see him leaving out Pope - you wouldn't want everyone in the squad playing twice apart from one man who played not at all.

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Devils_Advocate wrote:I doubt we could pull it off but after his brilliant World Cup we should look to sell and get good money for Heaton and Pope and bring in Pickford who is an improvement on both

Devil's advocates are supposed to put forward intelligent, rational arguments against received wisdom.

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Imploding Turtle wrote:Apply logic, for ***** sake. You said yourself that he's not going to be in power by the time Brexit happened, so how the **** can he be making a promise?

Supressio veri and suggestio falsi.

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So you're saying that Obama was predicting that the UK would go to the back of the queue. So he wasn't lying. Or was I lying when i predicted England would beat Croatia? Is that how predictions work now? If you're wrong, you're lying? I get that you really want to call Remainers liars all the time,...

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One of the stories I had in mind yesterday when I commented on Teasdale was a story I read in the Orient to the Emirates book not that long ago, which referred to Derek Gill putting together a consortium to provide finance to the club before the Orient Season. The implication of the story was that ...

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The reason you could tell that Obama was not telling the truth was that he couldn't have any power to make it true. He could say "I will do everything in my power to put Britain to the back of the queue" and be telling the absolute truth; but as his term as President was coming to an end half a year...

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Seems like it’s not a lie after all! Obama's comment wasn't exactly a lie, because it was meaningless - he was talking about something that he would have no influence over. I could promise that the USA will be back of the queue when it comes to a trade deal with Britain, if I wanted to; but as I ha...

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So is Obama intervention better or worse than the overspending by all the vote leave organisations, all proved to be run together and to be funded together, in direct contravention of EU electoral law? We did all this before. The Brexit side spent £8m, the Remain side spent £16m, but the Brexit sid...

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As someone who in the past has been heavily medicated for back / shoulder pain, I think it's entirely plausible that Juncker's condition could have been a consequence of strong medication and a fairly modest intake of alcohol over lunch. (Of course I have no idea - but from experience I certainly w...

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Funny. When Obama gave his backing to Remain during the referendum campaign, the Brexiters cried foul about a foreign leader interfering with UK domestic affairs. How come it’s suddenly OK? And equally funnily, when Trump gives his backing to Brexit after the referendum, the Remainers cry foul abou...

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martin_p wrote:You don’t know much about Europeans do you.

Until recently, I was one!

I've been to Europe quite a lot. No-one's ever kissed me.

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I think you need a lot of practice at use of the quote function.

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See my edit above, I suppose it depends on your point of view and what agenda you want to push. For the record, I suffer with lower back pain (not sciatica) that is related to my bowel disease - when I take co-codamol for the pain (strong ones) I have been asked if I am drunk, yet I am teetotal. Al...

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Mee won't sign and tarks will be in big demand. We are playing with fire again. Yes, again . Last year we went through all this, and look what happened. It's vital that the events of the last twelve months aren't repeated. Why are you so certain that Dawson can be signed for £5m but there is no amo...

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Opinion becomes fact when you compare being able to replace Robson and Wilkins with Hoddle and introduce Lineker and Owen at crucial stages against replacing Henderson with Dier and introducing Vardy at a crucial stage. But by that reckoning, Southgate's squad would have been better if Dier had sta...

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'It's nothing to do with nostalgia, it's just a fact. In the definition of "fact" that means "opinion", anyway. No matter how confident you are that your opinion is right, on this sort of thing your opinion can never be called fact. Where my memory differs is in the reaction to Gascoigne's booking....

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The published offers to buy the club were from Graham White of Colne Dynamoes, the mysterious Peter Shackleton, Ray Ingleby, and Barry Kilby. There may have been others that got less publicity. Again, there can be discussions about whether it was by accident or by design, but there's no doubt that T...

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No one is doubting Sean. Just backing him. His achievements mean he can be bolder with our over careful Board. Just give WBA £20m. No need to tell anyone what you paid. No one will give one. Just remove the risk. This is true. We could spend an extra £5m and get Dawson, and an extra £5m and get Rod...

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How do they measure screen sizes? It was advertised as 22m screen but doesn't look as big as I thought it would. I presume they don't use the system of normal telly's where they measure corner to corner diagnally? I saw it described as 21 meters square. So that would be about 5.5m x 4m or thereabou...

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