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- Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Assignon, Esteve and Fofana
- Replies: 98
- Views: 6838
Re: Assignon, Esteve and Fofana
He was highly rated in France, he's an under-21 French international, He was linked with Brighton, AC Milan, Sassuolo and Arsenal and although it doesn't mean anything other than it being an opinion of establishments - He's highly rated on Football Manager. Whilst you might snigger at the final exa...
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Assignon, Esteve and Fofana
- Replies: 98
- Views: 6838
Re: Assignon, Esteve and Fofana
Never really rated O'Shea. Reinforces the notion of an accident waiting to happen. I think all the chopping and changing hasn't helped him and he's not ready to be the senior defensive partner but I could see him developing into a solid premier league defender. If he'd spent this season playing alo...
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Maatsen interview in Guardian
- Replies: 23
- Views: 4147
Re: Maatsen interview in Guardian
He's starting in the champions league tonight with a good chance of getting through to the quarter finals.
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Assignon, Esteve and Fofana
- Replies: 98
- Views: 6838
Re: Assignon, Esteve and Fofana
The amount of fans who don't think Esteve is an improvement on Ekdal or O'Shea shows how little fans understand about football compared to those in the industry. This reads very much like all of the posts saying what an improvement Al Dakhil or Beyer were on the "limited" Tarkowski and Mee. Esteve ...
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Assignon, Esteve and Fofana
- Replies: 98
- Views: 6838
Assignon, Esteve and Fofana
So we've had a few games with them now. Obviously some were wildly optimistic after they'd played a few minutes, some much less so: Assignon - he looks skilful and pacy but seems pretty weak tactically and defensively. May go on to be a good player eventually but I suspect it won't be with us. Estev...
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:47 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2023/24: Chelsea v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 40
- Views: 2370
Re: 2023/24: Chelsea v Burnley – Ticket Information
It seems consistent that the ticket office mirror the plan side to side but not front to back when they are selling (not just for this one).
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:37 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ekdal and Al-Dakhil
- Replies: 55
- Views: 4529
Re: Ekdal and Al-Dakhil
It's probably partly pushback against those who were getting massively carried away with them, I'm sure there was someone saying how much better Al-Dakhil was than Tarkowski last season.Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:08 amBoth look decent signings I don't get the grief people are giving them.
- Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:23 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Odobert and McNeil similarities
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1936
Re: Odobert and McNeil similarities
A lot of people on this thread have clearly never heard of Dale Stephens.
- Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Directors box
- Replies: 92
- Views: 6143
Re: Directors box
I think it was a more recent adoption by Wall Street of the Silicon Valley look. The Instagram account @midtownuniform has it all. I think West Coast is more quilted, East Coast is fleece. But regardless, it's not much of a surprise that Pace is dressing as many of his peers did over the past dozen...
- Thu Mar 07, 2024 2:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Directors box
- Replies: 92
- Views: 6143
Re: Directors box
I think if he dressed smartly and wore a suit like most chairman of football clubs do, that it would be more appropriate and set a different tone. But I don't think this is an oversight on Pace's part. I think he chooses the 'tech bro' look for a reason. That look started off as "finance bros" with...
- Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:51 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Directors box
- Replies: 92
- Views: 6143
Re: Directors box
But as mentioned earlier in the thread - if you look at the director's box at the top clubs, club ownership and other leaders are wearing shirt and tie. It's not just a British thing either - you won't see John Henry at Liverpool wearing a baseball cap for example. If you really want a serious answ...
- Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:42 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Digital Away Tickets
- Replies: 65
- Views: 3588
Re: Digital Away Tickets
There's very few "Anybody received their digital tickets in the post" threads, or "I've had to pick my digital ticket up at the away ticket office" posts .... If you're going to compare the downloading a ticket journey, then factor in the delivery of tickets element as well. Are you still a paper b...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:41 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Unpopular opinions
- Replies: 126
- Views: 5978
Re: Unpopular opinions
I just think a lot of the new players have let him down, they haven't lived up to what they thought they would deliver. I'm genuinely really looking forward to next season though, the Championship is head and shoulders the best league about if you aren't owned by a Billionaire or a country I think ...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 8265
Re: Mud analytics
Someone commented earlier in the thread that MUD only became active with us in August 2023. I would love clarification on this tbh. The whole money ball plan that was eluded to in mission to Burnley was definitely at the front of Alan pace and kompanys vision. Maybe to the detriment of the football...
- Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 8265
Re: Mud analytics
It's an interesting distinction. Lee Mooney was definitely at Burnley and involved in board level discussions about transfer strategy.
ISF (I assume that's who you mean) are a data and scouting agency, they would be supporting recruitment, not in charge.
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 8265
Re: Mud analytics
It’s quite possible that MUD receive a commission on future sales though isn’t it. And that would be where Kompany’s motives could be questioned with regards to signings and team selections. It's possible. But realistically Kompany is a very rich man. He spent multiple seasons on an eight figure sa...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 8265
Re: Mud analytics
Here’s a thought… We’re going down. So are Sheffield United and barring any points deductions saving them, so are Luton. Let’s assume they don’t use any data analysis in their recruitment. I’m left wondering, as a fan, which of those three clubs would I be more excited about watching next year? Bur...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 8265
Re: Mud analytics
Just on Lee Mooney, he seems pretty well thought of. Came though Man CIty who are probably the market leaders in this area. He started with a commercial background rather than football which is becoming increasingly common. I think a lot of people underestimate just how complex the models that are u...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: General Info - Chelsea (a)
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2069
Re: General Info - Chelsea (a)
Arsenal do.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 3:29 pmyeah that's smart - do other clubs not do the same ? (us included)
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mud analytics
- Replies: 273
- Views: 8265
Re: Mud analytics
Maybe things will change but there is no indication at the moment that there are significant monies going through MUD. If you compare it to something like Agents' fees you'll see millions going out through there. A third party doing analytics isn't that unusual, although part owned by a manager is u...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Clarets vs Bournemouth - Match Thread
- Replies: 472
- Views: 10868
Re: Clarets vs Bournemouth - Match Thread
Where was this consequential contact thing against Villa?
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Clarets vs Bournemouth - Match Thread
- Replies: 472
- Views: 10868
Re: Clarets vs Bournemouth - Match Thread
Assignon on the wing maybe. He kept appearing there last week which the wingers didn't seem to be expecting.
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:49 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Coleman and Bell
- Replies: 35
- Views: 3576
Re: Coleman and Bell
Seems like the relationship has been breaking down for a while from following Andy Holt on twitter.
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8476
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Because what is the alternative? There has been £80 million of external investment into a business like Burnley with no equity, publicity or anything? There are mystery individuals who lend tens of millions to pay off loans when required? ALK couldn't find enough money to pay the former owners up f...
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:16 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12765
- Views: 1248571
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Deja vu Kettering Capital Comapnies House 2024 02 26.png Calder Vale Holdings Comapnies House 2024 02 26.png Confirmation statements have now been filed. For Calder Vale and Kettering Capital. Calder Vale is still owned by Kettering Capital, Kettering Capital is still owned by Velocity Sports Ltd i...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8476
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
And that to some extent answers all your points above. If ALK can get short term loans of tens of millions then how can you know that they haven't used these kind of loans along with clever financial management to defer inter company loans to the summer of 2023. No to avoid it being published in th...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8476
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
It depends how you define high interest, really. However you swing it, the interest on the new loan is going to be £6m a year or so. Compared with the figure before we took out that loan, £zero. Every year, BFC is paying out large sums of interest on a loan that benefits the club not at all , and t...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8476
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Thanks for this, have had a good look now. So go back to £170m for 84% valuing bfc at £202m. Think you said somewhere, can't find, that ALK now at 94% bought up more shares, that's £190m or thereabouts. Is that financed ALK £10m, Bank £65m, bfc £115m, total £190m. The 'bank' figure has seen various...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8476
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
We have always been a selling club but we cannot simply be a club that only buys with a view to being able to sell at a profit I don’t know who picked the summer signings was it Vince , Pace or Williams ? Whoever it was got it badly wrong by just looking at profit rather than building a team The ot...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
- Replies: 85
- Views: 3807
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
If the result and the performance are there then I'd say, by definition, Kompany has got the team sheet right.
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: First three April fixtures will not be televised
- Replies: 17
- Views: 1826
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Magic Numbers 23/24
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1018
Re: Magic Numbers 23/24
Bumping for those who really want to see it.
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Magic Numbers
- Replies: 3
- Views: 461
Re: Magic Numbers
I did it at the start of the season but for some reason the interest hasn't quite been there.
Let me track it down.
Let me track it down.
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8476
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
If we don’t get back up after 3 years ( more than possible) how is the debt then serviced and will the asset sales cover this ? Then what are we left with ? I’m not desperate for Burnley to be in the Premier League. I would be quite content if we were a stable Championship club like we were for man...
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8476
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
technically ALK/VSL owe the club £114.8m and because it is not carrying interest it can be called in at any time - even the accounts note this. We do not know, if that debt was transferred to Velocity Capital (UK) Holdings Ltd from Calder Vale Holdings Limited when the controlling shareholding in t...
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
- Replies: 215
- Views: 8476
Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
I agree with all of that, and I do understand why people feel like that, but the time to criticise is when it goes pear shape, not now. Although arguably when it goes pear shaped is too late. It's failing at the moment but we are quite a way from it being failed. Go down and learn some lessons abou...
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:21 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12765
- Views: 1248571
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
At present, it is to ALK's advantage to keep BFC running because the assets are greater than the liabilities, mainly because we could certainly sell a few players and have parachute money to come in. If we don't get back up within 2 years and have heavy contract liabilities and bank loans and the l...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12765
- Views: 1248571
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
I would really like to know in the worst case scenario and the Americans pulled without servicing the debts what would happen to BFC ? I don't think that's really a scenario. It's not as easy as many think to asset strip a business, particularly a football club, so what would be in it for ALK? They...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: REPORT: A long day out and another defeat
- Replies: 38
- Views: 3081
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: REPORT: A long day out and another defeat
- Replies: 38
- Views: 3081
Re: REPORT: A long day out and another defeat
Good report CT especially for us that didn’t attend. It must be disappointing having to write similar reports each week. It doesn’t change much does it. Incidentally I don’t know how you manage all this standing at grounds, your knees must be holding up well. Thanks for the report. It was surprisin...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Everton points deduction reduced
- Replies: 122
- Views: 7204
Re: Everton points deduction reduced
It's hardly anything new though. Loads of teams got promoted to the Premier League after breaching Championship FFP rules and all they got was a slap on the wrist.
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Everton points deduction reduced
- Replies: 122
- Views: 7204
Re: Everton points deduction reduced
Summary:
Can't say I'm familiar enough with the EFL rules to judge whether that is a reasonable benchmark.
Can't say I'm familiar enough with the EFL rules to judge whether that is a reasonable benchmark.
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 18608
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Was that a red? Looked harsh from the stands
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Transfer electronic tickets
- Replies: 5
- Views: 587
Re: Transfer electronic tickets
They can only be in one wallet at any time but you should be able to remove them from the wallet, forward the email and someone else add them.
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Rosenior comment last night on Hull performance
- Replies: 33
- Views: 3098
Re: Rosenior comment last night on Hull performance
It isn't that simple though, especially with a young squad, new to this country, new to this league. You build a team around experienced solid performers. Hence a strong spine down the middle. We screwed up badly with hindsight, not keeping, or buying a couple of leaders on the pitch. I suspect, al...
- Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2023/24: Crystal Palace v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 60
- Views: 3429
- Tue Feb 20, 2024 6:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2023/24: Crystal Palace v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 60
- Views: 3429
Re: 2023/24: Crystal Palace v Burnley – Ticket Information
It looks like it's an NFC ticket so it's not a barcode or qr you can print, you have to add it to your wallet and hold your phone to the reader.
- Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mission To Burnley Series 2
- Replies: 63
- Views: 4121
Re: Mission To Burnley Series 2
Honestly what makes you come to that conclusion? Take last year out of the picture. This season alone, be it man management, tactics, in-game decisions. What has he done that makes you think he'll have a decent management career at a pretty high level? His name alone will give him time and job opps...
- Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mission To Burnley Series 2
- Replies: 63
- Views: 4121
Re: Mission To Burnley Series 2
I hear there's going to be a back alley and some cobbled streets on it so I would like to register my early disgust at that.Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:08 pmWill we be spared ten pages of people judging it before it’s even been released this time?
- Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Time to hear from Chairman Pace
- Replies: 36
- Views: 4168
Re: Time to hear from Chairman Pace
For the opposite approach it's interesting to follow Andy Holt (Stanley owner) on twitter.
He's very open and it's interesting to read but I'm not sure whether airing all that he does is positive for the club or not.
He's very open and it's interesting to read but I'm not sure whether airing all that he does is positive for the club or not.