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by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - SHEFF UTD v BURNLEY
Replies: 2460
Views: 149287

Re: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - BURNLEY v BRIGHTON

Burnley 1 Brighton 1 - Foster 13 mins

NL2

National - Corach Rambler
by CrosspoolClarets
Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Squad values
Replies: 12
Views: 1185

Re: Squad values

Seems a reasonable list. No doubts some of those values are fair, some a little high (Trafford) and some a little low (Odobert). If we don’t get a bidder, we don’t sell. The problem comes is if there is a clause like Leeds had which lets loads go out on loan. That’s my bigger worry. I can’t see us s...
by CrosspoolClarets
Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O'Shea suspended?
Replies: 37
Views: 4156

Re: O'Shea suspended?

Probably the appropriate time to do my usual thing and remind us that the VAR was from Nottingham, and it is one of their clubs we are trying to catch. It was obvious in real time watching it on US TV that Muric, already 30 yards outside his goal, would be there first, and I out that on the match th...
by CrosspoolClarets
Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 796
Views: 67899

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

Think the nail hit on the head is the suggestion that it all depends on whether they know what they are doing, not just the finances but running a top football club in the “wild west” of multi million pound transfer dealings. The jury hasn’t yet heard all the evidence on that one let alone been sent...
by CrosspoolClarets
Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFCITC Dinner - 4 May 2024 @ Hilton MCR Deansgate
Replies: 69
Views: 4078

Re: BFCITC Dinner - 4 May 2024 @ Hilton MCR Deansgate

Anything with Burnley Football Club can be answered with a question… Does it make money? No? Then we won't do it. Yes but clever business people realise that money can be made indirectly as a longer term cause and effect. For example, getting the fans enthusiastic, energised and enjoying meeting th...
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 15803

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

Just had a look at those minutes conceded. We are not outliers from minutes 30-45. We have 8 scored and 12 conceded. Similar to several. Don’t know about just the last few minutes of the half. However where we ARE outliers (with Sheffield) is minutes 76-90. We have 6 scored and 18 conceded. But our ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 796
Views: 67899

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

Liked today's episode especially the analysis of much of our front four playing out of position inexplicably for the last 2 winless games. All through the season I've called Vincent, who I like a lot, the Tinkerman Reborn. An affliction of many clever, but not as clever as they think, people. He can...
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton - 2 more points deducted.
Replies: 72
Views: 4412

Re: Everton - 2 more points deducted.

I'll predict here, with no way of proving one way or the other, that if the bottom three had performed better this season the points deductions would have been at different levels because none of these authorities or commissions want it to define a relegation. In other words, it is bent. Prediction ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton v Burnley - Player Ratings
Replies: 78
Views: 4956

Re: Everton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Two things clear as day:

1. Muric, and I am a huge fan, cost us the game with a clanger worthy of non league.
2. Any poster on here is allowed to rate that however they like without ridicule. Losing points due to the avoidable, crucial and defining nature of it, seems sensible.
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So who's renewed their ST?
Replies: 251
Views: 10891

Re: So who's renewed their ST?

Renewed, because the price has gone down.

(due to the credits from using the Ticket Exchange which changes the value for money dynamic)
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Relegation
Replies: 76
Views: 4817

Re: Relegation

Got to be Forest to get one back on that angry Greek. We owe him one big time.

Yes I know it may affect things next year but some things are more important.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Premier league title
Replies: 34
Views: 1618

Re: Premier league title

Cannot see past City who will win them all while Arsenal fail at Spurs and Liverpool stumble at West Ham, Villa or Everton.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 15803

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

tbh I'd say at least 3 reds have been ridiculous BUT we absolutely have to do better. Out of interest does anyone remember how many reds we got last season ? Timings of goals are neither here nor there, teams at this level punish you at the slightest mistake. Certainly I disagreed with the two Oliv...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Masters golf
Replies: 52
Views: 2974

Re: Masters golf

Logic would say it can only be Scheffler. His putting has improved since moving to a mallet. Something many said he should have done years ago. Plus it is due to pee it down on Thursday so it will be a soft course. That will help him find the pins. Finally, it is mid February to mid April, so it is ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tresor
Replies: 114
Views: 10379

Re: Tresor

We talk a lot about the merits of defensive skills in flair attackers, we see plenty without it (Anthony etc), and what a shame it is that we don’t get any media coverage of us, or player / manager interviews on these topics, which leaves a vacuum. Is it needed? Do the club feel it is needed? Is thi...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O'Shea ball control
Replies: 48
Views: 3281

Re: O'Shea ball control

You say only Berge, Amdouni and Tresor fit the quality required, Odobert and Larsen have both shown more quality than Amdouni and Tresor this season on a regular basis. Amdouni had more than enough opportunities. Tresor hasn’t been given a chance tbf to him. Only just spotted this reply but what I ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
Replies: 61
Views: 3438

Re: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.

Though I suspect this whole story is nonsense (and irresponsible tittle tattle from Iwelumo on that joke station) it is certainly adding fuel if the 75% of games for which he is available is reduced by him being declared ill by the club last week. That means he has played in 28 out of 36 games which...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Man U/ Liverpool
Replies: 45
Views: 1904

Re: Man U/ Liverpool

Drury’s habit of saying a player’s first and last name when the chance is golden becomes annoying.

Probably the only time I’ve ever been grateful for Anthony :lol:
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: If VK is made director of football who is our manager?
Replies: 43
Views: 2109

Re: If VK is made director of football who is our manager?

I would certainly bring in the above arrangement before sacking VK if it came to that. It feels it could strengthen us significantly. Even the greatest business minds often welcome challenge and an assurance process because they know it makes them better.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The cost of playing out badly
Replies: 55
Views: 2909

Re: The cost of playing out badly

We are seeing in the Liverpool United game examples of what I wrote above, that many teams get punished playing it out and it isn’t the reason why we are 2nd bottom. Looks like it may cost Liverpool the title.

I’m sure these managers all still believe in their approaches though.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The cost of playing out badly
Replies: 55
Views: 2909

Re: The cost of playing out badly

Nobody has said that stats are annoying. They have their place. They’ve said they don’t like the way in which they are used inappropriately to support a poor judgement. You are the biggest example of this on the message board . Nonsense (my last post to this). Some stats are obscure, others are dir...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The cost of playing out badly
Replies: 55
Views: 2909

Re: The cost of playing out badly

One of the few well balanced posts on here, what I really like about this post is that it doesn’t mention any GKs, no narrative. Too many posters can’t see the wood from the trees when it comes to the GK position this season. There are bigger problems with this squad of players and management than ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The cost of playing out badly
Replies: 55
Views: 2909

Re: The cost of playing out badly

Defending set pieces is an important part of defending and will be taken into account by those who believe our defending has been a part of our problems Indeed. And it is shocking. The poster who I replied to though was being insulting (due to not having a proper argument) in reply to a stat about ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who's done enough to get a move?
Replies: 33
Views: 2208

Re: Who's done enough to get a move?

We don’t know who would have Wout clauses but that seems less likely with younger players. The big danger is Leeds style relegation loans which leaves us in the doo doo. I would expect though that Amdouni, Tresor if signed, Berge and Odobert would go for £50m between them. Probably a small loss on t...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The cost of playing out badly
Replies: 55
Views: 2909

Re: The cost of playing out badly

Only someone who hasn’t seen us play and has just looked up the stats after each game could come to the conclusion that our defending isn’t an issue. Stats can show when someone is right and someone else is wrong. Like with you in this case. We have conceded 42 from non set pieces. Chelsea have con...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The cost of playing out badly
Replies: 55
Views: 2909

Re: The cost of playing out badly

Anyone know how many points we have given away by playing out at all costs. It feels like 20! I don’t remember us getting many goals to win points from doing it either. It feels we have become an embarrassment for being so inept at it. We have conceded 42 from open play, City have 23. So if the fig...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match interviews v Everton
Replies: 58
Views: 3699

Re: Post match interviews v Everton

Interesting debate about Kompany and Dyche above, but it is harsh to call Everton a terrible team. They are TOP on expected goals scored from set pieces, near bottom on expected goals conceded. These stats show they do what is needed. Ugly but effective, as ever from Dyche. They would never go down....
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O'Shea ball control
Replies: 48
Views: 3281

Re: O'Shea ball control

He has improved, and credit for that, but the difference between who we tried to sign across the team and who we actually signed is a huge gulf. O’Shea epitomises that (it was only a yellow card for me today but he also got turned earlier by DCL badly). I’d say only Berge, Amdouni and Tresor fit the...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton v Burnley - Player Ratings
Replies: 78
Views: 4956

Re: Everton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Won’t score it because I only saw about 60 of the minutes. From what I saw I would give 6s on the whole. But the error was outrageously negligent, killed the whole feel of the team and the game, we were the better team until then and the crowd were getting restless. The main problem though remains c...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Apr 06, 2024 6:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Michael Oliver v Everton
Replies: 22
Views: 1401

Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Oliver v Everton

Disagree with the red, thought Muric would have easily got the ball first. But that would be borderline and I thought Oliver had a good game. Made me wish other refs had taken his view on minimal contact not being a pen.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
Replies: 494
Views: 15353

Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

spt_claret wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:51 pm
Gobsmacked by that from Muric. Been a fan but that's worse than any mistake Trafford's had. In disbelief.
Exactly my thoughts.

Far worse than any Trafford error because he wasn’t under any pressure, but just dallied for no reason and let DCL get the block in.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
Replies: 494
Views: 15353

Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

We have just seen why Muric doesn’t play for a top club. Got all the ability but concentration can disappear. That’s no doubt why he has missed most of the season.
by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tresor
Replies: 114
Views: 10379

Re: Tresor

I agree but he clearly has some exceptional technical qualities. I'm surprised we've not tried to use them when we are behind in games more often. More from the Number 10 role which is the one position where you can sort of get away without defending very well Agree with your general view here but ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Home draw takes unbeaten run to four
Replies: 16
Views: 1219

Re: REPORT: Home draw takes unbeaten run to four

Foster beat more men with “take ons” than all our team put together.

I too thought he was a bit off it, but he did do some things well,
by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 12061

Re: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23

I’m saying they are both “bad guys” !! I also agree that the ownership now puts us in a worse and far more precarious position than previously. I think a few people have mentioned and been critical of the current owners and taking money out of the club. It was pretty inevitable they would do that. ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - SHEFF UTD v BURNLEY
Replies: 2460
Views: 149287

Re: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - CHELSEA v BURNLEY

Everton 1 Burnley 0 - Tarkowski 35 mins (typical Dyche)

NL2
by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tresor
Replies: 114
Views: 10379

Re: Tresor

Bit of a shame if we need to stay up and are picking players based on non football attributes like appearances. I get that his style isn’t suited to holding a lead but in a scenario where we are chasing a game, and him being the “king of assists”, and us struggling to create clear chances (only Shef...
by CrosspoolClarets
Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Six Points From Safety... Everton A Must Win?
Replies: 37
Views: 2281

Re: Six Points From Safety... Everton A Must Wi

IanMcL wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:37 pm
Sheffield 3 points Nottm 3 points.
Everton are not going to get relegated.
Is that going to be for us? Could be level after a points deduction.
by CrosspoolClarets
Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Six Points From Safety... Everton A Must Win?
Replies: 37
Views: 2281

Re: Six Points From Safety... Everton A Must Win?

Look how many headers Wolves won tonight, sadly I'll be amazed if we get anything at Goodison. Tonight killed us off unless the rest get another load of points taken off them. Like it or not, we don't deserve to stay up given our season. Won 14 lost 12 aerial duels. Source fbref.com. Doesn’t look b...
by CrosspoolClarets
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonight's Footy April 3rd
Replies: 43
Views: 1672

Re: Tonight's Footy April 3rd

Watching the Villa City game in Portugal. England is his normal self, giving fouls for non existent challnges.

I see he gets the City game after our game as a reward - to paraphrase Dominic Cummings' level of cynicism - "the system is working exactly as intended".
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Wolves - Player Ratings
Replies: 66
Views: 3728

Re: Burnley v Wolves - Player Ratings

Muric 8 - passing sublime and got us out of jail half a dozen times, no chance with the goal I felt. Vitinho 7 - only weakness that final ball O’Shea 7 - a mix but a vital assist and turning into a leader Esteve 8 - numerous match saving moments, just a couple of minor errors Taylor 6 - final ball d...
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Wolves
Replies: 338
Views: 11277

Re: Burnley vs Wolves

We lack the final ball but look good between both boxes. It really is that simple.
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Six Points From Safety... Everton A Must Win?
Replies: 37
Views: 2281

Re: Six Points From Safety... Everton A Must Win?

No. Must not lose. They will only drop with another points deduction and if that was 3-4 points we are close.

The main thing is we are playing well, have some resilience, and have a chance, even if the odds are against us.
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Wolves
Replies: 338
Views: 11277

Re: Burnley vs Wolves

So unlucky, the Wolves guy tried to do a Cruyff turn and tripped himself up and lost balance. Very poor reffing yet again, but our switching off on the stroke of half time has cost us many times.
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Referee confirmed for Everton game
Replies: 24
Views: 2246

Re: Referee confirmed for Everton game

Nottingham’s Coote on VAR predictably, given it is Forest we are trying to catch. Already shafted us this season. I know that there is some suggestion he is a County fan, but they shouldn’t be constantly giving us officials from our rivals cities. There are 20+ of them, why the heck do we get the sa...
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Chelsea
Replies: 102
Views: 6063

Re: RATE THE REF - Darren England v Chelsea

Someone at the club should clip all the game chaining injustices that have cost us points this season, and send them to the Premier League and the PGMOL and ask them for their explanation as to how so many can happen to 1 club. You can only send a certain amount of megabytes on an email. Pretty sur...
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Brilliant Burnley at the Bridge
Replies: 21
Views: 2230

Re: REPORT: Brilliant Burnley at the Bridge

Good report. Interestingly, regarding the “almost impossible” rebound chance for Jay, Understat gave it 0.51 expected goals (51% likely to score) and his header they gave as 3% likely.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: PL Prediction League - All Fixtures and Updates - WEEK 31 PREDICTIONS
Replies: 1589
Views: 121252

Re: PL Prediction League - All Fixtures and Updates - WEEK 29 PREDI

Tuesday 2nd April Newcastle 2-1 Everton Forest 2-1 Fulham NAP Bournemouth 2-1 Palace Burnley 2-2 Wolves - Fofana 30th min West Ham 1-2 Spurs Wed 3rd April Arsenal 3-0 Luton Brentford 2-1 Brighton Man-City 2-1 Aston Villa Thursday 4th April Liverpool 4-0 Sheffield Utd Chelsea 1-1 Man-Utd Sat 6th Apri...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton
Replies: 62
Views: 6712

Re: Everton

Genuinely believe two things.

1. We win on Saturday, we stay up.
2. We would deserve to.

(don’t think we will win, but we have a good chance)
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wilson Odobert
Replies: 39
Views: 3607

Re: Wilson Odobert

Dwight is a 1-2 trick pony but he is super at those things and you can carve out a solid PL career doing that. Whether Wilson hits those heights with a different bag of talents remains to be seen. Great potential though and we were right to sign him, as with Koleosho.