With the building of the Cricketfield stand I suspect. The atmosphere moved to the bee-hole; while the more well to do got to sit it the shiny new underfloor heated stand (for a couple of games, until Bob Lord got the heating bill)
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- Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Turning us around
- Replies: 40
- Views: 4033
Re: Turning us around
- Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Scrap VAR
- Replies: 84
- Views: 3654
Re: Scrap VAR
Just posted this on the Trafford thread.. If a player barging forward with his back to play blocking the keeper is not obstruction at the very least, something has gone very wrong in the rules. I’m no lover of over protection for goalkeepers, and I prefer the idea of a more robust attitude in genera...
- Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD
- Replies: 808
- Views: 29828
Re: TRAFFORD
If a player barging forward with his back to play blocking the keeper is not obstruction at the very least, something has gone very wrong in the rules. I’m no lover of over protection for goalkeepers, and I prefer the idea of a more robust attitude in general, but if VAR are not over ruling that the...
- Fri Jan 12, 2024 2:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Sven-Goran Eriksson
- Replies: 27
- Views: 3247
Re: Sven-Goran Eriksson
Wouldn’t wish it on anyone. I know many will remember him from his England days, but for me the most I ever liked him was the long running saga of him joining t’Rovers. It seemed to go on for months, then last minute telling them he did not fancy it. A Claret could not have done any better. All the ...
- Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: It's CTs birthday
- Replies: 54
- Views: 2243
Re: It's CTs birthday
All the best Tony, Happy Birthday x
- Thu Jan 11, 2024 2:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Martin Paterson
- Replies: 30
- Views: 3629
Re: Martin Paterson
Paterson reminded me very much of Ian Moore and Liam Robinson for his work rate, but far more confident in front of goal. Had it not been for he bad injury I still think Paterson would have gone on to thrive at the highest level. We missed his ability to terrify defenders and lost a lot from our gam...
- Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - CHELSEA v BURNLEY
- Replies: 2272
- Views: 144509
Re: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - BURNLEY v LUTON
Burnley 3 Luton 2 Amdouni 17mins
Championship
Championship
- Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:40 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: JPR Williams has died
- Replies: 17
- Views: 2146
Re: JPR Williams has died
Not a rugby fan but I remember thinking as a boy watching Grandstand; “well that is England beaten JPR Williams is playing on the wing”. He seemed unstoppable at the time.
RIP JPR made a big impression on a young kid who was not particularly into Rugby. Another legend of my childhood gone.
RIP JPR made a big impression on a young kid who was not particularly into Rugby. Another legend of my childhood gone.
- Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cotterill
- Replies: 107
- Views: 10716
Re: Cotterill
For me Cotterill did a good job of stabilising the club. Only met him a few times, I worked in Whalley at the time and he was a regular with his family at CJ’s sandwich shop. While I avoided interrupting him I had a few chats when we were both waiting for our lunches. He was fine but always looked l...
- Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Plum Duff
- Replies: 25
- Views: 3916
Re: Plum Duff
There would not have been such need in Burnley at that time. Burnley was a boom town growing experientially in the 1860’s-1900. Burnley would still be thriving and prosperous in the main until the Great Depression of the 1930’s when the cotton trade finally hit full implosion with India now able to ...
- Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Northener terrifies Londoners by saying "hello"
- Replies: 17
- Views: 2586
Re: Northener terrifies Londoners by saying "hello"
Mate of mine was utterly shocked on his first visit to a London pub. He walked up to the bar and turning to the bloke next to him said, “It’s busy in here tonight, isn’t it?” “Sorry, I’m not gay” was the answer. The bloke realising his accent then apologised, he’d been living in London for ten years...
- Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Amdouni
- Replies: 133
- Views: 17075
Re: Amdouni
Amdouni is basically our Tella replacement. Doesn't fit into a set position and floats around the front line. I've not seen anything yet that going with him over Tella was a sound decision. At least with Tella, when he was having an off day, he wound up the opposition a bit and was pretty lethal in...
- Sun Jan 07, 2024 12:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Amdouni
- Replies: 133
- Views: 17075
Re: Amdouni
All that is missing from Amdouni as far as I’m concerned is a settled partnership and a bit of confidence. I expect him to hit a purple patch in front of goal in the not too distant future
- Sun Jan 07, 2024 12:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: How things have changed
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2420
- Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:57 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Why do footballers lift up their shorts?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 2851
Re: Why do footballers lift up their shorts?
Robbie Fowler used to wear some device to splay his nostrils apparently to give himself extra breathing capacity. Around that time I was watching a game on the Prairie and there was a player running along with his beer belly wobbling over about a 40" waist who was wearing one. It was me and I was g...
- Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:38 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Old Shirts and Scarves
- Replies: 39
- Views: 4809
Re: Old Shirts and Scarves
Boxcar would have plenty to say about that, if he was still here, bless him.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:33 pmI can understand that. I’ve just made the decision to get rid of my programmes. They are just taking up too much room. I’ve got loads of shirts too.
- Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:29 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: January transfer window rumours.
- Replies: 2353
- Views: 284168
Re: January transfer window rumours.
The point was about our record of signing players from villa. Neither of them worked out, whatever the reason, whilst they were with us. What they did after is irrelevant. Agreed though, I thought there was a decent player in both of them whilst they were here, Lee moreso than Whittingham. Neither ...
- Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:03 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: January transfer window rumours.
- Replies: 2353
- Views: 284168
Re: January transfer window rumours.
Both were shite for us though, which was the point. No I think the point is very much the same: it was not that they were bad players just never given the time they needed to come good, Alan Lee was improving and I remember thinking ‘too soon’ when we binned him. Whittingham was only a two month lo...
- Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:46 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: January transfer window rumours.
- Replies: 2353
- Views: 284168
Re: January transfer window rumours.
Is there any club we have a worse record of signing promising youngsters from than Villa? Gary Cahill is on the positive side Whittingham Alan Lee Delfouneso All on the negative side Ramsey tbc Sure there’s others I’ve missed as well…. I find the Alan Lee inclusion a little disingenuous, he had a d...
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: January transfer window rumours.
- Replies: 2353
- Views: 284168
Re: January transfer window rumours.
You're right he looked absolutely shell shocked to even be on the pitch initially when he came on against Villa. Should players at this level really be getting stage fright? Hes playing for Burnley not Man Utd, it doesnt say a lot for his mentality if hes struggling to come in to a run of the mill ...
- Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - CHELSEA v BURNLEY
- Replies: 2272
- Views: 144509
- Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - CHELSEA v BURNLEY
- Replies: 2272
- Views: 144509
Re: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - ASTON VILLA v BURNLEY
League 1
Tottenham Hotspur 3-2 (Foster 12mins)
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Tottenham Hotspur 3-2 (Foster 12mins)
minute.
- Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: PL Prediction League - All Fixtures and Updates - WEEK 29 PREDICTIONS
- Replies: 1469
- Views: 118077
Re: PL Prediction League - All Fixtures and Updates - ALL FESTIVE FIXTURE PREDICTIONS
Chelsea 1-1 Fulham
Newcastle 1-4 Man-City
Everton 1-2 Aston Villa
Man-Utd 1-2 Tottenham
Burnley 3-2 Luton (FOSTER 34mins)
Arsenal 2-0 Crystal Palace NAP
Brentford 1-1 Nottingham Forest
Sheffield United 1-2 West Ham
Bournemouth 0 v 2 Liverpool
Brighton 2 v 1 Wolves
Total goals = 30
Newcastle 1-4 Man-City
Everton 1-2 Aston Villa
Man-Utd 1-2 Tottenham
Burnley 3-2 Luton (FOSTER 34mins)
Arsenal 2-0 Crystal Palace NAP
Brentford 1-1 Nottingham Forest
Sheffield United 1-2 West Ham
Bournemouth 0 v 2 Liverpool
Brighton 2 v 1 Wolves
Total goals = 30
- Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:22 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Salford City
- Replies: 31
- Views: 4900
Re: Salford City
I had yes.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:21 pmAlexander for their mate Neil Wood? You are forgetting that Richie Wellens followed Alexander with Gary Bowyer coming in after Wellens. Not far short of two years between Alexander and Wood.
- Tue Jan 02, 2024 4:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Benson to Southampton
- Replies: 562
- Views: 56960
Re: Benson to Southampton
We'll revisit your unfathomably optimistic posts about the future in August ... I genuinely fear a repeat of the mid 1980s , indeed at this moment in time I really cannot see anything but financial disaster . I think the main difference from the 80’s was that John Jackson really was star struck by ...
- Tue Jan 02, 2024 1:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Salford City
- Replies: 31
- Views: 4900
Re: Salford City
Rooney sacking not much of a surprise, they have a real lack of chin this season. The sacking of Graham Alexander for their mate Neil Wood I thought was a major mistake, Alexander was steadily building a team that looked capable of progression given time. Rooney being appointed would give Salford th...
- Mon Jan 01, 2024 2:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: RIP John Pilger
- Replies: 32
- Views: 2574
Re: RIP John Pilger
If you believe leaders appear out of eggs with no socialisation you can ignore history and refute evidence with bigotry. I do not agree with John Pilger’s position on Russia, but I understand his references, even if I disagree with his conclusions. Pilger and others have been taken in by Putin, and ...
- Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: RIP John Pilger
- Replies: 32
- Views: 2574
Re: RIP John Pilger
If you are saying America is to blame when Russia does something bad, that is very stupid. America is very bad and its foreign policy has always been very evil. But when Russia does something bad, that's Russia. This is what Pilger chose not to understand and what made him a massive crank. Haha, ve...
- Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: RIP John Pilger
- Replies: 32
- Views: 2574
Re: RIP John Pilger
He took up the (unfortunately common on the left) position that imperialism is something bad the US and its allies do to the rest of the world. It's a great position when it is applied to things that the US and its allies do but a very stupid position when you use it to justify atrocities committed...
- Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: RIP John Pilger
- Replies: 32
- Views: 2574
Re: RIP John Pilger
Hi position on western antagonism of China was misguided. Not really paid much attention to his comments on China, but again it depends when he was referencing. Chairman Meo initially saw America as an ongoing ally after the war (but not Russia) and appealed for aid (and American influence in their...
- Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: According to Prime
- Replies: 45
- Views: 6252
Re: According to Prime
All good stuff .. one question - Does the Albion Mill team link to Burnley Cricket & Football Club or our club Burnley Rovers ? .. as far as I can see our club was founded as per the newspaper report in September of 1874 and played against the club from Turf Moor on a number of occasions ? It is Bu...
- Sun Dec 31, 2023 8:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Benson to Southampton
- Replies: 562
- Views: 56960
Re: Benson to Southampton
Exactly where I’m at. I’ve always taken a rather dim view of clubs that discarded players that helped them get promoted. I heavily disliked the Watford multi club approach with Udinese, and the back alley deals, but really, we’re no better now. I’ve always felt, as a club, we had a bit of class. We...
- Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: RIP John Pilger
- Replies: 32
- Views: 2574
Re: RIP John Pilger
His work was certainly thought provoking which made him different and interesting. However I later thought he had an agenda and no longer trusted his reporting. His position on the Ukraine war was a little troublesome, an anti-imperialist questioning Ukraine’s right to exist. However, as ever his h...
- Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Adam and Wallace leaving Burnley
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1446
Re: ARTICLE: Adam and Wallace leaving Burnley
Hope they can establish themselves as a management team, best of luck to them.
- Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: RIP John Pilger
- Replies: 32
- Views: 2574
Re: RIP John Pilger
Remember in an interview many years ago saying the Falklands changed him completely… one of his reports was quoting an officer, “the only thing holding us up is the weather”. The censors changed it to “the only thing holding us up are the politicians” - he decided then that if officials refused to a...
- Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Get Eric Dyer
- Replies: 56
- Views: 6076
Re: Get Eric Dyer
I heard that Dyer was one of the senior pro’s we were looking to bring in the summer, and was close at one point. Hopefully it can be revived, but the interest he is now attracting may put a spanner in the works.
- Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Get Eric Dyer
- Replies: 56
- Views: 6076
Re: Get Eric Dyer
I heard that Dyer was one of the senior pro’s we were looking to bring in the summer, and was close at one point. Hopefully it can be revived, but the interest he is now attracting may put a spanner in the works.
- Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Merry Christmas
- Replies: 72
- Views: 4061
Re: Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas everyone.
- Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Oooo George Oghani 1% Club
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1500
Re: Oooo George Oghani 1% Club
Remember seeing that last time it was on. Remember thinking it was surprising the self proclaimed ‘Rovers fan’ Host did not recognise him or the name.
- Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: According to Prime
- Replies: 45
- Views: 6252
Re: According to Prime
Interestingly, despite being visibly opposed to professionalism, Rovers were up to the same games, hiding players at India Mill and the paint works that became Crown. It was Rovers that killed off the bigger club Darwin by offering wages Darwen could not match and taking over their entire first team...
- Sat Dec 23, 2023 12:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: According to Prime
- Replies: 45
- Views: 6252
Re: According to Prime
The rugby union was founded in 1871 quite a bit before the football league, which was in 1888. The rugby Union was a locally based game, based on the Rugby rule set of football rules in the area of Rugby, hence it is still called ‘Rugby’ Football…. Same as the ‘Sheffield Rules football’ same as var...
- Sat Dec 23, 2023 12:30 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: According to Prime
- Replies: 45
- Views: 6252
Re: According to Prime
…. And of course when I say Burnley, I am referring to the club that became Burnley, through various moves prior to being directly connected to the Cricket Club… Albion Mill’s weavers shed team.
- Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: According to Prime
- Replies: 45
- Views: 6252
Re: According to Prime
And you are re-writing the club’s history. The official line is Burnley Rovers was a rugby club which changed code to association football and dropped the word Rovers. Sorry to jump on this post again CT, but just to add the early history of the club included three or four stops around the town, of...
- Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: According to Prime
- Replies: 45
- Views: 6252
Re: According to Prime
And you are re-writing the club’s history. The official line is Burnley Rovers was a rugby club which changed code to association football and dropped the word Rovers. I am not re- writing anything, I have used primary sources and academic research to research the origins of the football league… my...
- Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: According to Prime
- Replies: 45
- Views: 6252
Re: According to Prime
Burnley played rugby until May 1882 when a meeting at the Bull on Manchester Road opted to change code to association football. Sorry to be pedantic Tony, it may now be considered ‘rugby’ but that was not a term used at the time. Burnley moved from ‘football’ to London Association football. I did a...
- Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: According to Prime
- Replies: 45
- Views: 6252
Re: According to Prime
You are right, we were a rugby club and changed code in May 1882 at the Bull in town. There was no rugby association… the rugby Union was formed after the Football League, the Rugby League quite a while after, they adopted Sheffield and Manchester FA rules…. Football rules, London Association (Eton...
- Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: According to Prime
- Replies: 45
- Views: 6252
Re: According to Prime
I didn’t know that - I always thought we were a rugby club and changed to football. No such thing as ‘rugby’ at the time. The game they played was ‘football’, the Lancashire FA was the second FA and adopted ‘London Association Rules’ (soccer) early. The Manchester association played ‘shefield’ rule...
- Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: According to Prime
- Replies: 45
- Views: 6252
Re: According to Prime
* May have been Albion Mill - ( I did the origins of league football as part of Masters research, but have done several dissertations since). Edit.. Been thinking about it and it was Albion Mill, mixing it up Albert Mill in Rossendale that was part of the Rossendale Methodist research regarding ear...
- Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Villa v Sheff U
- Replies: 113
- Views: 7200
Re: VILLA
Fascinating club. Always wondered why they were named after a hotel… then research revealed the club was formed at the Methodist Church that faced that grand hotel. The main reason the West Midlands became involved with the Lancashire FA forming the football league.
- Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: According to Prime
- Replies: 45
- Views: 6252
Re: According to Prime
* May have been Albion Mill - ( I did the origins of league football as part of Masters research, but have done several dissertations since).