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- Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Chester, do you ever watch any of the Stefan Borson stuff on talksport (and elsewhere) ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdMi1OAdCVY Interested what you think of him I do not know much about him, but in the bit I saw of that clip you liked (I will not watch anything on youtube with so many adverts)...
- Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
It appears that the new bill will be presented tomorrow and will include a rule preventing clubs from joining a breakaway league - so no Premier League 2 then, not sure how it works with a Super League type approach because those clubs still wanted to be a part of the Premier League as well from Th...
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Independent Football Regulator
- Replies: 30
- Views: 1615
Re: Independent Football Regulator
Good news. Hopefully it will develop a clearer and more robust sanctions regime to act as a proper deterrent for financial misconduct. I wouldn't necessarily expect that being within its remit, and I also expect legal challenges (with a reasonable chance of success) over the proposed backstop on Pr...
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
well it seems that things are being accelerated with the new bill seemingly to be presented this week. possibly even as soon as tomorrow from The Telegraph Football Governance Bill to be published this week as patience with Premier League snaps Top-tier clubs’ failure to agree on a new support pack...
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Hi Chester, I've read your postings with interest over the weeks, months, even years(??!!) - many thanks for all your efforts - and just wondering what your feelings with you having followed the money (so to speak) for so long. If I may, I'd be interested in your thoughts on the following; 1. What ...
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Reading FC x Wycombe Vultures debacle...
- Replies: 35
- Views: 2032
Re: Reading FC x Wycombe Vultures debacle...
Just out of interest when did football become a ‘business’? I’m not sure I can pinpoint the time it ceased to be a sport and turned into business. I assume the metamorphosis started when the PL was formed (remember the original daft idea of having a closed shop with members dependant on ground size...
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
It looks like the bill for an Independent Regulator for Football will be put to parliament before any general elections is called - though there is still time for the conservatives to develop another crisis to force that particular event - and with both main parties wanting it done at the cost of m...
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:57 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
A piece on how FFP/PSR rules are affecting the Premier League
from The Athletic
The season of asterisks – PSR rulings have created a Premier League campaign like no other
https://archive.ph/dgazH
from The Athletic
The season of asterisks – PSR rulings have created a Premier League campaign like no other
https://archive.ph/dgazH
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:21 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 9744
Re: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?
There are suggestions that Forest have been offered a softened penalty (reduced) if they do not appeal - which should affect the credibility of the Premier League to my mind. The stories also suggest Everton are going to get a similar offer The reasons being offered for this are that it makes the ru...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
In a number of different this interview with Gerard Pique is both interesting and depressing - he says he wants to be President of Barcelona at some point in the future )he has the money to back up such a bid) though he also sounds fully on track with the worries of Joan Laporta, Florentino Perez an...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
I think there is too much partisan hyperbole in this which tends to hide some key points for non Evertonian's to support, though I do like the Noam Chomsky quote that leads it TheEsk lets fly at Moshiri, the old Kenwright led board, 777 Partners and, of course, The Premier League Accountability and ...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 9744
Re: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?
The hearing has yet to happen, so it will be mid to late Aprilmybloodisclaret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:02 pmWhen are Everton due to find out their second penalty?
Also are we still pursuing compo from Everton? I certainly hope so.
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?
- Replies: 142
- Views: 9744
Re: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?
Gut feeling is six reduced to three. Meh! Successful appeals tend to get a third of the points off - there needs to be a new rule about frivolous appeals Forest's main point of mitigation was the price achieved for Brennan Johnson as a opposed to what was available in the reporting time frame - Eve...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:29 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:28 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
It appears that not only are 777 Partners late in their promised financial support of Standard Liege, they are also late in paying for their shares according to a tweet from Sacha Tavolieri https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/status/1768970829038039460 it translates as 🇺🇸🏟️🔴 The shadow of Bruno Vena...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:22 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Meanwhile over in Belgium being part of 777 Partners stable of Football clubs is not a happy experience, this is the latest in many such stories about Standard Liege translated by google from RTE 777 Partners, late salaries, economic project: the CEO of Standard speaks about the financial situation...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
As Martin Samuel riles once more against FFP/PSR this time in favour of Leicester he seems to forget that this is potentially the 3rd consecutive promotion to the Premier League made by Leicester that has involved financial shenanigans. It is certainly the third time that the EFL has had to change ...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
The changes in ticketing policy and price banding at English top flight football clubs has been accelerating in recent times, most of it has been telegraphed for some time yet it still catches people by surprise, greater emphasis needs to be placed on pre-empting such moves from our clubs rather th...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Another rant by Martin Samuel about a new iteration of FFP - which he wedges is obsession with Mbappe (a phenomenal talent who has not shown himself to be a great team performer, which is crucial in the Premier League) and an element that has not been talked of much - Anchoring - where the big clubs...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match presser
- Replies: 19
- Views: 2207
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match presser
- Replies: 19
- Views: 2207
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Season tickets next season
- Replies: 736
- Views: 43807
Re: Season tickets next season
Not sure we have any reps. There's a fan board that have meetings. You might be able to contact one of them on twitter if you search their names? F.A.B. members are listed here https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/more/fans/supporters-clubs Members of the FAB Here we’d like to introduce you the FAB ...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Over at 777 Partners stablemates (the holding is a minority share paid for with a loan - natch) Sevilla there is hope that a new financing agreement will help them to finally develop some stability from Inside World Football, though first reported by SportsBusiness.com Sevilla raise €108m as it puts...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Meanwhile over in Belgium being part of 777 Partners stable of Football clubs is not a happy experience, this is the latest in many such stories about Standard Liege translated by google from RTE 777 Partners, late salaries, economic project: the CEO of Standard speaks about the financial situation ...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:58 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Football has become full of 'Finance bro's' who think they know better than anyone else with their unique approach - yet they wear the same uniform and pursue the same models - where is the differentiation promised where is the uniqueness? It appears that 777 Partners approach to football is little ...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:07 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
So here is something that I can see catching on quickly - Tottenham have announced that they are phasing out Senior Concessions in season tickets from the season after next, no new ones will be sold, even to longstanding season ticket holders who would have normally become entitled - here Martin Cl...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
I have to say that I am surprised that the cost of failure (in relative terms) is so little - perhaps Ed Woodward was right, Manchester United do not need success to make money - the real loss of course is in those all import UEFA payments (including coefficients) and increaseded ticket prices from ...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Over the next 3 summers North America is to play host to three significant men's football competitions, No longer is it just Europe's biggest leagues and clubs (along with Wrexham) that see America as a cash cow that still has much more to give, everyone seems to want it - the key is can the MLS fin...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Sorry, but I cannot help wondering if that is about the contents of the thread as a whole or is it just the Everton situation.
It is fair to say that Football is one unholy mess these days
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
the high level subject matter of this 16th article from Philippe Auclair and Paul Brown on the proposed 777 Partners takeover of Everton, is one I have been waiting for since the deal was announced. from Josimar Football The Russian connection 777 Partners has done business with a Russian oligarch,...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
With the Premier League clubs failing to reach an agreement on funding to support EFL clubs there is an awful lot of expectation falling on the prospective Independent Regulator for Football and despite the noise from within government and parliaments as well as the media, I cannot help but wonder ...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Having had a lengthy meeting with 777 Partners last week, it appears that the Premier League are readying themselves to pass judgement on the their proposed takeover over Everton next week from The Guardian Premier League set to rule on 777 Partners’ Everton takeover next week Club’s financial futur...
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
With the Premier League clubs failing to reach an agreement on funding to support EFL clubs there is an awful lot of expectation falling on the prospective Independent Regulator for Football and despite the noise from within government and parliaments as well as the media, I cannot help but wonder j...
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Reading FC x Wycombe Vultures debacle...
- Replies: 35
- Views: 2032
Re: Reading FC x Wycombe Vultures debacle...
What’s happen at Reading is scandalous and their fans are being let down right, left and centre by the league, the FA etc. Dai Yongge is destroying the club. He says the process to sell it is ongoing with one hand but then sells the training ground with the other. It doesn’t matter whether they are...
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Reading FC x Wycombe Vultures debacle...
- Replies: 35
- Views: 2032
Re: Reading FC x Wycombe Vultures debacle...
Wycombe, or their owner, are paying £22 million apparently for Readings training ground Let’s see where that money ends up As for Reading, they’re just a lesser/another version of Rovers or Bolton, having lived beyond their means for decades and can’t do without someone else’s money the reports I h...
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Reading FC x Wycombe Vultures debacle...
- Replies: 35
- Views: 2032
Re: Reading FC x Wycombe Vultures debacle...
Someone who occasionally reads the MMT told me recently that its content is a prime illustration of the death throes of Capitalism in action lets up that Wycombe do not end up like Wigan who bought Bolton's training facility before their own financial downfall where they ended up selling it to Preston
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Marc Boixasa
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2756
Re: Marc Boixasa
He took that role last year, but was with us from when Kompany joined, at the time he said he was working for MUD Analytics on his LinkedIN page
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Marc Boixasa
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2756
Re: Marc Boixasa
Who are these people ? Come and go as they please, leaving a trail of sh!te behind them. When you go into it the turnover of employees at the club is quite significant compared to what we have previously been used to and that is not just on the football side - I know some observers are paying close...
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Marc Boixasa
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2756
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Marc Boixasa
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2756
Re: Marc Boixasa
He is the one who said he was working for MUD Analytics when he arrived at BurnleyVegas Claret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:29 pmhttps://theathletic.com/5336002/2024/03 ... ed-article
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Season tickets next season
- Replies: 736
- Views: 43807
Re: Season tickets next season
I listened to that 30 minutes now, recorded in August before the rude awakening on the pitch. I don’t have a problem with it. All this talk of “leveraging” and “TikTok” and “Dude Perfect” is fine. I want the club to be trendy and forward thinking. The staff doing these things now all sound so young...
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Season tickets next season
- Replies: 736
- Views: 43807
Re: Season tickets next season
I think that as a fan I am part of the problem. In other areas of my life I make a few decisions where I don't buy into the corporate cesspit of society. I try to support independent cafes and shops etc but fall short occasionally and succumb to the large corporate entities with whom they compete. ...
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:52 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Season tickets next season
- Replies: 736
- Views: 43807
Re: Season tickets next season
reading the above reminds me of this People will have varying views of Inside Sport's articles - but they have started a new podcast series called - 'Behind the Badge' - the fact there is another long running podcast series of the same name that is reasonably high profile says a lot about Inside Spo...
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Netflix / Prime recommendations
- Replies: 565
- Views: 62935
Re: Netflix / Prime recommendations
it has had a lot of press hype, but Shogun on Disney is truly excellent - Cosmo Jarvis sounds like Richard Burton
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
It can be argued that Liverpool are already part of a multi-club approach - Redbird Capital who have a 10% stake in FSG own AC Milan (though that takeover is currently under investigation by the Italian authorities), but now it seems that they are intent on doing it for real. The game has gone to po...
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
something to raise a smile from The Telegraph The Super League is dead – thanks to Denmark European Union concluded breakaway league must find a new name after Danish top-flight trademarked the Super League brand https://archive.ph/Z8I69 That said with the ECJ having made its judgement back in Decem...
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Thought the Russian money issue at Everton had been brushed under the carpet first time. Surely they will not get away with another link up. I am still expecting a link back to Alisher Usmanov at some point in these investigations - nothing to base that upon, it just seems so apparent that Usmanov ...
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-31/redbird-is-said-to-reach-agreement-to-buy-ac-milan-from-elliott More private equity and American ownership in football. AC Milan taken over by Redbird Capital for around $1.3bn. It never rains but it pours on the business side of Italian football -...
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
the high level subject matter of this 16th article from Philippe Auclair and Paul Brown on the proposed 777 Partners takeover of Everton, is one I have been waiting for since the deal was announced. from Josimar Football The Russian connection 777 Partners has done business with a Russian oligarch, ...
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9881
- Views: 980930
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
As Martin Samuel riles once more against FFP/PSR this time in favour of Leicester he seems to forget that this is potentially the 3rd consecutive promotion to the Premier League made by Leicester that has involved financial shenanigans. It is certainly the third time that the EFL has had to change i...