loving this post from The Athletic journalist @MJShrimper about Burnley's accounts
https://twitter.com/mjshrimper/status/1 ... 5866456064
wish I could read that article mind - anyone care to transcribe
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- Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
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- Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
I think he's arguing points that haven't been made. It's stating the bleeding obvious that if a player doesn't want his contract extending beyond 30th June, you can't make him play. And the suggestion that this will call into question the integrity of the competition because some clubs will be wors...
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
By now most of you will know that Wimbledon (the Tennis tournament) has insured itself against a Pandemic for 17 years. @Uglygame asks why the game wasn't so prepared (I have only heard of Aberdeen having the requisite insurance and that hasn't registered in the media, especially the fact that come ...
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
An article from the Law Society Gazette on the legal realities of an extension to the football season - co-written by John Mehrzad QC who has featured quite a bit recently on this thread https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/legal-updates/legal-realities-of-an-extension-to-the-football-season/5103804.article...
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Lady Vanishes
- Replies: 47
- Views: 3791
Re: The Lady Vanishes
Margaret Lockwood is back on TV again at 2:30 this afternoon in the film "Jassy" on the Talking Pictures channel - Freeview channel 81
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
A really good article from The ESK (Everton fans site) looking at the future financial health of the Premier league - the title may give the game away - "Staring into the abyss?" https://theesk.org/2020/04/09/staring-into-the-abyss/ essentially business as normal for us - set a budget and stick to i...
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:06 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
The Athletic do an EFL analysis similar to that one on the Premier League the other day
https://theathletic.com/1731864/2020/04 ... ed-article
https://theathletic.com/1731864/2020/04 ... ed-article
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:03 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
@AndyhHolt with perhaps his most scathing attack ever on the EFL - follows on from yesterday
https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/12 ... 8130825217
we as far away from a whole game solution as ever
https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/12 ... 8130825217
we as far away from a whole game solution as ever
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:32 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Let's Follow The Belarus Football League!
- Replies: 38
- Views: 3992
Re: Let's Follow The Belarus Football League!
Lets not - putting people at undue risk for purely economic gain - even the ultra groups have protested that they are still playing
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:00 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Entire championship going into administration
- Replies: 25
- Views: 3041
Re: Entire championship going into administration
The scenario there is an agreement between the 24 Championship chairmen. It would not be agreed by the Premier League chairmen or by the players. So Leeds, for example, would tell their players that their contracts have been torn up and they would like them to sign a new contract on reduced terms. ...
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Entire championship going into administration
- Replies: 25
- Views: 3041
Re: Entire championship going into administration
Won't happen because it would mean they would lose all their better players for no transfer fee. not if the scenario outlined in the article is followed It may not happen because it is being championed by those most likely to break FFP and the clubs that are more prudent don't see why they should h...
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9995
- Views: 1021678
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Man City could be the next Premier League club to announce wage deferrals for football staff
https://twitter.com/Lawton_Times/status ... 2486178820
https://twitter.com/Lawton_Times/status ... 2486178820
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Players Together
- Replies: 54
- Views: 4365
Re: Ben Mee article in the Guardian
It's a great piece - on the "Players together" thread also
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Rumours that Premier League clubs will furlough non football staff once they have all negotiated pay deferrals with players
https://twitter.com/MirrorFootball/stat ... 8158590976
https://twitter.com/MirrorFootball/stat ... 8158590976
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9995
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Now saying circa £20m for top teams down to bare millions for bottom end. Strange that the clubs with the wealthier benefactors get the lions share. Tv appearances will be the key I suspect - they always top that pile - no surprise they are the biggest winners here - It is the way the system was de...
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 4042
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9995
- Views: 1021678
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Rui Pinto of Football Leaks fame has been moved from Prison to home where he will remain under house arrest
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... d-internet
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... d-internet
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9995
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Those Trinidad and Tobago FA officials ousted by FIFA in the Infantino revenge mission - have gone to CAS to appeal the decision
https://apnews.com/3d1502fe324cccf4394c8c47b0b08ae7
https://apnews.com/3d1502fe324cccf4394c8c47b0b08ae7
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
I hadn't realised that the EFL are not going to advance the Premier Leagues advance of £125m to their members until a few issues are to be sorted out -
https://twitter.com/danroan/status/1248230684918976519
no doubt this will upset a few - but may help focus a few minds on sorting their rules out
https://twitter.com/danroan/status/1248230684918976519
no doubt this will upset a few - but may help focus a few minds on sorting their rules out
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 4042
Re: Who Never Played in the Prem for Us But Could Have Done?
Trevor Stephen?
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9995
- Views: 1021678
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Not sure that giving advance payments of TV monies that might have to be refunded is a good idea from the Premier League - are they just hoping that if it is spent that it cannot be clawed bac https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52228551 this decision was reportedly taken last Friday and is only ju...
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9995
- Views: 1021678
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
With sponsorship playing such a key part to revenue growth in our game what are the impacts in times like these and how can relationships be maintained (even developed) this article from Sports Pro Media looks at the issue - Stoppage time for sponsors: Managing partnerships during a pandemic https:/...
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Sport and Football in particular has been a major benefactor of some large sponsorship deals from the major airlines - when you read this you have to ask just how long can that continue? - the fallout could be huge for some (just look at those who are sponsored by Ethihad and Emerates for example)- ...
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9995
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
CIES Webinar looking at Football Clubs and their current challenges - with a panel from around the globe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfAXaj8AWRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfAXaj8AWRw
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Premier League to announce season over?
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3831
Re: Premier League to announce season over?
Spijed - It is not about that - and they would have been ok I believe - @uglygame makes the point I have made a couple of times elsewhere on the board (first time about 3 weeks ago) - forget this season, the next one is more important if you want more clubs to survive - https://twitter.com/uglygame/...
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Saints defer wages
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2556
Re: Saints defer wages
I was thinking the same thing Chester. Was expecting his in-depth summary of the accounts last week. Hopefully he is ok and well. You’ll have to fill the void in the meantime ! I certainly don't have your knowledge set, or that of Aggi and one or two others - between us we are doing ok but I would ...
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Premier League to announce season over?
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3831
Re: Premier League to announce season over?
thought they did already from time to time - some clubs definitely doFactualFrank wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:04 pmOther than no crowd so no atmosphere, that would be brilliant.
They would need to put some sort of fake crowd noise on.
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Saints defer wages
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2556
Re: Saints defer wages
I have to say this is where I am missing input from Royboyclaret - he has a wealth of knowledge and input to give - getting very worried I haven't seen a post from him in some time - he was noticeably absent when our results were published last week. Anyone know how he is?
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Premier League to announce season over?
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3831
Re: Premier League to announce season over?
I wonder if Sky et al could promise to show each EFL team live at least once for the remainder of the season. Even those in League 2. I don’t know what they would pay the clubs per game but it would at least offset some of the predicted losses. it is pennies at that level - less than £10k I think -...
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Saints defer wages
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2556
Re: Saints defer wages
The issue with cuts that are not agreed with players, is that a player can walk away from his contract if not paid to contractual levels for two consecutive months. - It is why some Premier League clubs are cutting wages/furloughing of non football staff and mounted such a public campaign for player...
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Premier League to announce season over?
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3831
Re: Premier League to announce season over?
EFL making plans for closed door games to complete the season. The English Football League season can be completed in 56 days when it is safe to resume amid the coronavirus pandemic, clubs have been told. But it is assumed that matches will be played behind closed doors. A letter sent to all 71 EFL...
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Saints defer wages
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2556
Re: Saints defer wages
It's been a while since it happened with a high profile case, but is there an example of a club going into administration and not paying players from recent times? Not sure if Bolton have paid all outstanding monies to players yet definitely paid some just not sure they have paid all - Bury haven't
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
There is going to be plenty of this kind of thing going on across the game at the moment - Trevor Hemmings dips his hand into his pockets again and bought another £1.7m worth of shares from himself to boost the cash flow at Preston North End - that's about 1 month's wages, so this could get repetiti...
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Saints defer wages
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2556
Re: Saints defer wages
I tried posting a link but failed miserably BurnleyAce. It’s worth a read in the Guardian, Stijn Francis starts lecturing about the importance of treating contracts as sacred. Even though I agree with hiS main points, I found that hard to read from agent. here you go https://www.theguardian.com/foo...
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:09 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Saints defer wages
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2556
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:06 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Saints defer wages
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2556
Re: Saints defer wages
It was inevitable that it would go down to individual club level - sensible move for a club that is increasingly challenged financially and reportedly up for sale - got to have something worth selling
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:00 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9995
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
@KieranMaguire with a list of the net outstanding transfer payments for Premier League clubs - the figures for Palace and Newcastle are way out of date as they haven't published last season's accounts yet (expected late June) https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1248171309600776194 - as I have s...
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:39 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
@AndyhHolt is the first person in football that I am aware of to talk about what comes next after lockdown https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/1248112461259177984 - I have posted about this a few times in the last few weeks, I suspect people won't talk about it because they don't want to think abou...
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:26 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9995
- Views: 1021678
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
While we continue to wait for @SwissRamble to provide the definitive analysis of our 2018/19 financial results he has done the same for Middlesbrough, a club we became fraught rivals with a in recent years - it is frightening how quickly fortunes can change in this games https://twitter.com/SwissRam...
- Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:18 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9995
- Views: 1021678
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
It appears that the Mail have rehashed that Athletic article on the state of finances in the Premier League in part at least https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8195795/Why-Premier-League-finances-dire-state-teams-risk-going-BUST.html you look at all the issues highlighted and think a...
- Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Chris Wood - Offside
- Replies: 26
- Views: 2806
Re: Chris Wood - Offside
you have to say that he is keeping some top rated company there
- Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?
- Replies: 59
- Views: 5643
Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?
Leeds have bet the ranch on this season, if they don't go up it will take a few years for them to re-gather themselves for another push. If they do go up I expect an announcement of a new investor very quickly
as to the original OP - that would be No, Nay, Never
as to the original OP - that would be No, Nay, Never
- Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9995
- Views: 1021678
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
@SportingIntel has responded to questions about he came to those figures in that Mail article the other day https://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1247626456261427202/photo/1 I still think it was (unusually) a poor piece of work Harris talks about the article itself here from around 23:30 in https...
- Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Sports documentaries/Series
- Replies: 25
- Views: 2660
Re: Sports documentaries/Series
Not a series but one of the great matches of all time Italy v Brazil World Cup 1982 - full match
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBC02hKBTlQ
FIFA have made loads of games available online for those who are interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBC02hKBTlQ
FIFA have made loads of games available online for those who are interested
- Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
@Marcotti asks: Can FIFA save soccer during coronavirus crisis with an economic bailout?
https://www.espn.com/soccer/blog-fifa/s ... ic-bailout
I would say only if it can use that Softbank money that is no longer being offered
https://www.espn.com/soccer/blog-fifa/s ... ic-bailout
I would say only if it can use that Softbank money that is no longer being offered
- Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
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- Views: 1021678
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
John Nicholson follows is 2 recent column's with a manifesto for football after hyper-capitalism
https://www.football365.com/news/john-n ... ier-league
https://www.football365.com/news/john-n ... ier-league
- Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9995
- Views: 1021678
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Some of you may have read this https://theathletic.com/1729003/2020/04/08/premier-league-finances-accounts/?source=shared-article - this morning - for those without a subscription here is a special Ornstein and Chapman Podcast on the article https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zaW1w...
- Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9995
- Views: 1021678
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
This Independent article suggests that the pandemic may see the end of the EFL Championship as we know it - certainly if they go for the nuclear option posted above https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/coronavirus-news-latest-efl-championship-leeds-west-brom-aston-villa-readi...
- Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9995
- Views: 1021678
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
It is now being reported that Leeds have furloughed some non playing staff https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/adam-pope-reveals-significant-off-field-leeds-united-development/ hardly a surprise given their financial results and the fact that the playing staff deferrals are effectively loans that will...
- Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:49 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9995
- Views: 1021678
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
meanwhile more financial woe for the FA as international rights holders enter discussions about withholding outstanding payments for this season's FA cup
https://www.soccerex.com/insight/articl ... s-payments
https://www.soccerex.com/insight/articl ... s-payments