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Saxoman wrote:Dalglish was lacking as a manager in Europe, with Liverpool and rovers.

He never managed Liverpool in Europe.

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I wouldn't be so sure. Defoe means that you have to play a certain way. He can't really play up front on his own, nor can he play wide successfully. Their star performer last year was Josh King and I can't see him playing up top with Defoe which means he'll likely get pushed wide which significantly...

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No but it did bring in players who later went on to achieve it. SD has brought in some effective players but not one who sets the ground alight as Ings could. No, just ones like Keane who we're about to make a £15 million profit on. And ones like Gray, who'll go for more than Ings did. And ones lik...

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ablueclaret wrote:Mostly EH loanees, different era, different management style. EH did experiment.

And didn't get us promoted.

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1. Yeah but you don't get a trophy for finishing 7th. Why do you think Lukaku and Barkley want out? Moyes, Fellaini and Stones a few others who jumped ship. 2. Are you really trying to argue Everton are better than Man Utd? 3 trophies in 1 season, when was the last time Everton won a trophy? Its no...

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Reecey1987 wrote:There is also a big difference in money received depending on were you finish

That's nothing to do with the player though, which was the point KRBFC was trying, but not quite successfully making.

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there is zero difference between finishing 17th and 7th (apart from last year because United won EL). United winning the Europa League Was only partly the reason for 7th getting Europa League. 7th got Europa League because United also won the League Cup, which would attract a Europa League place wh...

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KRBFC wrote:Everton being the same as Burnley? who said that? I said they play for the same as us.

Aren't they in the Europa League this year?

So he gets European football for starters.

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I believe if Spurs played in the Serie A, they'd win it every year like Juventus do. How many league titles have Celtic won on the spin? There's certainly an argument for English teams actually not being that great based off Champions League performances but the demand of the English game and no wi...

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In terms of history they're miles ahead of Spurs but when talking about how ''big'' a club is currently, I rightly or wrongly consider the quality of the current team. Two Champions League finals in three years, five league titles on the spin, Buffon, Bonucci, Chiellini, Barzagli,Alex Sandro, Pjani...

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RingoMcCartney wrote:Are you imploding turtle?

He has a reputation for logging in / out and having multiple user names.

Your just as pedantic !

*you're

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Zanetti beats him hands down. I know it's the Internet and there is this desire to deal in absolutes ........ but c'mon man. You're talking about one of the greatest fullbacks to have ever, ever played the game. Nobody beats him hands down. Zanetti beats Ian Measham hands down. He beats Paul France...

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Right_winger wrote:Go on then let's see it? When has the DUP ordered murders of innocent civilians?

When has Corbyn?

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Like I said, he played for a better team but he scored less goals, less assists, less passes, less tackles etc etc Scholes played bulk of his club career in a central two. Lampard and Gerrard played bulk of theirs in a three. You may as well compare apples and pears. Scholes didn't have a Makelele ...

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Winstonswhite wrote:Of course he was an incredible player and stats often don't tell the true story but he was way behind Gerrard and Lampard in every single stat except fouls committed.

Trophies won.

Quite a bit ahead on that stat.

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Tony Bellew is a massive cock-end and his comments after the fight last night highlighted this. After his win George Groves paid tribute to his last opponent, Edward Gutknecht, who remains in a coma since their fight. That, plus the knowledge that Brook fractured his orbital bone in his last fight s...

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Palace and Southampton? Potential for what? A top 10 finish? They're hardly miles ahead of us and we've only just managed a first season of survival! It's only the clubs that finished in the top seven this season that currently have more potential than us, there was a sixteen point gap between Ever...

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HatfieldClaret wrote:maybe it's a generic name for journeying mercenary foreign football managers.

Worked for free as Russia coach because Capello nearly bankrupted their FA.

Hardly a mercenary.

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Lord Beamish wrote:He looked like Dustin Hoffman's Evil Twin Brother.

One of Alec Baldwin's less famous brothers.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4512290/Manchester-United-set-sign-Michael-Keane-25m.html Daily Mail reckons he's nailed on to sign for UTD. Daily Mail also reckons :- 1. Immigrants are the root of all evil. 2. Nazi Party had some good ideas but presentation issues. 3. Prince Phil...

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Seems shifty to me. Used Burnley to bump up his contract. Dour with an inflated ego. The bulk of his playing career was played in the Micky mouse league where very average players can look like world beaters. Other than when he won the Champions League Final, marking Zidane out of the game and sett...

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Deeney is two years older than Vokes and has scored just two more goals despite playing more and being on penalties.

If we're spending that much on a striker I'd want someone significantly better than Big Sam.

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I'd wager the comments about Laws tenure would be a lot different had he not been so fondly remembered as a player? Nice guy? Ask Ivano Bonnetti about that. He was forever taking digs at us when he managed other clubs in the same division and he came across as a bitter egotist. It was amazing that h...

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claretdom wrote:Ok. Well lets see where he ends up next season......

When he joins a team from 8th downwards you can bump this and say "see it was all speculation and merely done to sell papers"

I'm not saying he will.

Christ ...... it's like discussing things with people with autism. It's not binary.

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Steve1956 wrote:To suggest Michael Keane couldn't adapt to a new system of playing is ludicrous ....he will win lots of plaudits,medal's and England Cap's playing for a top four side.......we all know that,just some of us are in denial.

Who has said he can't?

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Steve1956 wrote:Neville winning most things,Carragher spawned a Champions league win and a few League cups:)

You don't spawn Champions Leagues.

I'm no Liverpool fan - quite the opposite - and I agree about Carragher's tendency to dive in. But you don't spawn a Champions League.

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Fair do's its just speculation. How come there is no speculation with any club outside the top 7 for him ? I'm just guessing .......... but "United v Liverpool in £25 million tug of war for Keane" probably gets more clicks, retweets, likes and sells more papers than "West Brom v Stoke in £25 millio...

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It probably matters more what Klopp & Mourinho think about Keane than Carragher & Neville. Considering the clubs he is being linked with are United, City, Liverpool, Spurs etc and not Stoke, West Brom, West Ham or Watford I think it is fair to assume he is highly rated not just by some on here who ...

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Agreed very different dwfending for us. At times like a siege on the alamo. Top 6 clubs rarely experience this. They were dramatically outnumbered at the Alamo. We rarely are outnumbered, for all the reasons that I have laid out. We have strength in numbers and in organisation. There is little spac...

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The other thing to add is that if anybody knows what it's like defending for top sides it's probably these two, with their thousand plus games played exclusively for those types of clubs.

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Your hoping all the Premier league managers read this board and your comments arnt you,and he stays with us ,don't think much of our support has any doubt Keane will go to the very top...except you. He's a good player. He's done really, really well for us. But defending for us is incredibly differe...

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Played as 1 of 3 centre backs for england and did alright. Why not for the scousers ?? Or are they above england In a friendly. Against Germany reserves. And he played well, but Joe Hart bailed him out hugely at the end. His other game for England was against no-marks. Maybe, just maybe, it may be ...

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The reference to Sakho is the most telling one. PSG captain as a teenager, French international, mega-money transfer ..... he was exposed in that system. Different defender in an Allardyce team, who (with the greatest respect) sets his team up more like us than Liverpool. I don't think they are crit...

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Michael Keane will turn out to be twenty time better a Player Than Carragher ever was where ever he ends up playing,Carragher is so far up his own arse it's unbelievable Twenty times the player? So he's going to win 20 Champions League medals? Get 760 England caps? Play in 40 international tourname...

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CleggHall wrote:Sheridan, the new Oldham manager, went for experienced players to stave off relegation, and succeeded.

I've seen this line pushed on here a couple of times.

Sheridan was the Oldham manager who signed him.

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Paul Smith was 13 when Sinclair made his Blackpool debut.

He didn't join Burnley until 1992 when Sinclair was an established first team player at Blackpool.

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I hope you`re right, ABC! Trevor Steven!!!!! I was too young to truly appreciate his talent (8-10 at the time) but was star-struck when I saw him at Clitheroe Castle and it took all my nerve to ask him for his autograph. I used to think Neil Grewcock was a superstar too!!!!!!!!!!! For what it`s wor...

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KRBFC wrote:For all Hazards world class dribbling ability he doesn't produce end product enough at all. Ronaldo scores 50+ goals a season from the same position and Hazard is lucky to hit 10.

14 League goals this season.

55 in 156 starts in the league ..... so one in three .

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This is such a brazen and badly executed attempt at trolling/fishing that you would hope the OP would be banned.

He clutters up the board with unmitigated ********. It reflects very poorly on the board and adds nothing to it.

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Golovkin will stop Jacobs between 4 and 6 I think. The 160 division is not great at the moment, particularly with Canelo messing about with catchweights. Jacobs has got this fight mainly on the back of splattering Quillen in 90 seconds, but Quillen was something of a hype job himself. Other than tha...

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PremierLeagueClass wrote:Enjoy it, there has never been a better time to be a Burnley fan...

What about when we were Champions of England?

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