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by Royboyclaret
Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 31342

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

Have to say that bfcwest puts forward a very powerful argument (and not for the first time on this subject), that additional quality seating will attract additional people to the Turf. It makes sense and, in principle, he's certainly convinced me it's the way forward particularly whilst the finances...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 31342

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

He could also have looked the day before the latest tranche of " Sky TV " monies, which may have been due on the same day as a portion of Michael Keane's transfer fee ... we'll never know .. His statement is just so vague, but maybe deliberately so. However, with the best will in the world, at no r...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 31342

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

I suspect the next accounts will include a hefty bonus for staff & players, based on finishing 7th in the League and qualifying for the Europa League initial stages ..... although it may not be individually set out in the accounts ... Indeed it will, in the same way that the previous years' Wage bi...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 31342

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

boatshed bill wrote:Why doubt the chairman?
Too many just don't realise the cost of running a PL club. The tv money, for the most part, goes to playing staff, management and f""king agents!
I don't hear anyone doubting the Chairman, just that "the last time he looked" is far too vague.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 31342

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

Cheers bfccrazy.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 31342

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

The last two year's accounts have been published on 5th April, so we'll have to wait a few weeks, I suspect .... even so, that will only give us a " Cash at Bank " figure as at close of business on 30th June 2018 .... I did a conservative estimate of the figure to Jun'18 on the "Swansea in trouble:...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 31342

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

Just seen the latest video the club have put out, a 5 minute interview with the Chairman. In response to people who say there must be £100m+ in the bank, he said that last time he looked there was £24m. As an observation from me, the last accounts said that on 30th June 2017 there was £20.1m in the...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Sensational Turf Moor news – Jimmy Mac is transfer listed
Replies: 27
Views: 2704

Re: ARTICLE: Sensational Turf Moor news – Jimmy Mac is transfer listed

A story I heard, from the man himself on Sky Time of Our Lives, was that a man at the time, Cook, I believe was interested in becoming a director which Lord wouldn't allow. However Jimmy was friends with Cook's son and would travel home from games with him instead of with the team on the official c...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Clarets face daunting task at St James
Replies: 28
Views: 4101

Re: Clarets face daunting task at St James

Do you think both managers would take a point now if offered? To be fair, Newcastle also are on a decent run at home at the moment. So, to answer the question, yes I think both managers would take a point if offered it. To extend our unbeaten run to 9 games prior to the home game against Palace wou...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Clarets face daunting task at St James
Replies: 28
Views: 4101

Re: Clarets face daunting task at St James

Momentum and confidence are such key factors.

Based on that our boys probably can't wait to get out on the pitch tomorrow night.

Big chance of a result, for me, irrespective of any stats.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: No injuries from Saturday
Replies: 13
Views: 1848

Re: No injuries from Saturday

Spijed wrote:Is Defour likely to be fit this season?
Physically or mentally?

A great shame for me for a player with so much talent.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: No injuries from Saturday
Replies: 13
Views: 1848

Re: No injuries from Saturday

Surprised to hear that. McNeil walked off with an ice-pack on his right knee and Barnes was noticeably limping for the final five minutes.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019911

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

My recollection of the QPR situation was that there was a catalogue of errors at the club over a period of time and it was ironic that Lee Hoos was central to the whole sorry mess. That said, the big mistake came from the FL when they allowed QPR back into the Championship after the club had flouted...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: McNeil is a centre midfielder
Replies: 36
Views: 4494

Re: McNeil is a centre midfielder

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Not for me he isn't.

Perfect where he is. 8-)
Absolutely, and watching the game back last night, was shocked to hear Jon Walters claim centre-mid was his real position. I remember his earliest games on the Turf a few seasons ago and they were all played wide left.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: League Cup Final
Replies: 91
Views: 5935

Re: League Cup Final

Bin Ont Turf wrote:A player wouldn't have acted like that under Dyche.
You're probably right BOT, but his opinion on the actual incident will be interesting.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: League Cup Final
Replies: 91
Views: 5935

Re: League Cup Final

Have to say that the beautiful game has sunk to a new low today. And to make the whole thing even more unedifying, if that were possible, both the player and manager will no doubt claim language and communication difficulties caused the problem. Pathetic by all concerned and a seriously bad day for ...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Barley is FULL!
Replies: 130
Views: 12939

Re: Barley is FULL!

Happy to welcome all visitors to Higham village.

Park sensibly and enjoy a pleasant walk to Pendle Hill.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea
Replies: 16
Views: 1559

Re: Chelsea

What did the FA do wrong then? Apart from let Chelsea get away with of course. I think that's just it, Sid. The suspicion was that the FA knew all along that Chelsea were transgressing the rules, but chose to turn a blind eye. Now they both pay the price, and rightly so. Seems the bigger the club t...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea
Replies: 16
Views: 1559

Re: Chelsea

Culmination of a three year FIFA investigation into signing of young players.

The ban covers the next two transfer windows and also fined £460,000, with the FA also fined £391,000.

A lengthy investigation but justice done in the end.
by Royboyclaret
Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain
Replies: 25
Views: 3114

Re: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain

That would be the current cricket ground, I would think. That's where the original Accrington played their league games. They shared with the cricket club. Ah right.........So when did they move over to Peel Park? I remember my dad taking me to Peel Park for a friendly against us to 'open' their ne...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain
Replies: 25
Views: 3114

Re: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain

I think I was mascot for the Final, but the memory is a bit hazy. :)
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain
Replies: 25
Views: 3114

Re: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain

As a matter of interest on our way to that first Final against Blackburn Rovers in 1889/90 we beat Rossendale 4-3, Haydock 15-0 & Higher Walton 7-0.

Some scoring performances there !
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain
Replies: 25
Views: 3114

Re: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain

Just looking at a wonderful team photo of the first time we won this trophy back in 1889/90, just a mere 130 years ago. Our players look so proud showing off the trophy. It turns out we only beat Blackburn Rovers 2-0 in the Final played at Accrington, with Alex Stewart and Alex McLardie scoring the ...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain
Replies: 25
Views: 3114

Re: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain

It really is a fantastic trophy Seem to remember this was a trophy the Burnley Reserves won on a regular basis back in the 60's. The boy Richardson sounds to be a goal machine, the first thing that came to mind when his age was mentioned was a certain 16 year old Tommy Lawton making his debut for u...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019911

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Indeed, but it's fascinating to look a little bit behind that "100%" figure in the 2012/13 season. I guess it would have been the last of our parachute payment seasons which meant we ended that financial year with a Total Income of a mere £15.3m. With a Wage bill of £15.4m it meant that even before ...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Out of the cup at Liverpool as Mac says farewell to Burnley
Replies: 12
Views: 1095

Re: ARTICLE: Out of the cup at Liverpool as Mac says farewell to Burnley

Whilst in no way supporting Bob Lord in selling Jimmy Mac he was 32yo. In an age where players didn't go much beyond that, he’d also had a succession of injuries. As it led to the Brian O’Neil/Bomber Harris midfield with hindsight it wasn’t that bad a decision. Tin hat on, shinpads in waiting for t...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Classless Chelsea.
Replies: 24
Views: 3097

Re: Classless Chelsea.

I suspect it didn't and then we had to find a replacement for Coyle from scratch, and we all know how that ended up. Succession planning happens in any sensible business. Why it is seen as controversial in Football is beyond me. Sarri probably can't bloody wait to be sacked at this point. Zizkov......
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Classless Chelsea.
Replies: 24
Views: 3097

Classless Chelsea.

Leaks from their Boardroom today suggest that Zidane and Lampard have been discussed at senior level as a replacement for their current manager. Bang out of order when Sarri has not even been called into the office, let alone sacked. Our directors at the Turf are not immune to criticism but no way w...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019911

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Roy - I believe we crept under the threshold as that £61m includes the bonus for staying up that wouldn't have been paid otherwise I also believe the club are trying to keep the wage bill around the low 50% of turnover as that is just good management and what we are known for - difficult for us but...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019911

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Slightly weird in that our last reported Wage bill was £61m

Perhaps the £70m to Jun'18 that I've suggested for long enough might be a little high. Only five more weeks for confirmation one way or the other.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 130
Views: 8445

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

I know how accounts work thank you. Think you are in for a big surprise when our accounts for 18/19 come out in just over a year. Howver maybe the likes of royboy could give us an estimate? Not sure there's any mileage in looking as far ahead as Jun'19 and in any case a serious crystal ball would b...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 130
Views: 8445

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

For me, we missed a trick last summer in particular. Two key factors, the attractiveness we had as a Club having finished 7th and qualifying for the Europa League and secondly, most important of all, the Cash reserves from an incredible financial year were in place like NEVER before. In the end, as ...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 130
Views: 8445

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

Steve..........that 67% ratio was for the financial year to Jun'16, when we had Championship accounts.

The figure was reduced to 51% to Jun'17 and, as Chester Perry says, will be the same or very similar to Jun'18, based on £70m Wages / £140m Turnover.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 130
Views: 8445

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

We have to remember when you sign player for £10 million the on costs are a lot higher. So an agent (as we have seen for the Sala incident) can expect a million plus. The player expects the transfer fee in wages over 3 to 4 years. Loans are touted at £5 million plus wages. Then if you dig deeper th...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Can we get 7 pts from the next six games?
Replies: 16
Views: 2766

Re: Can we get 7 pts from the next six games?

Speaking of one game at a time..........It's time we put Tottenham in their place and next week would be a sweet time to do just that.

Just a pity about the nonsense kick-off time, but we'll all be there.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019911

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Roy if your age projections are right our ratio will not be that far off Watford's this season - Last years exceptional performance should help mask tha. Though it does seem to be a problem for smaller clubs who have prolonged stays in this league - see Stoke, West Brom and Swansea I'm sure I went ...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019911

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Watford have posted there financial results for last season (a sizeable loss which may explain the Richarlison deal) SwissRamble has been looking at the figures https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1096331038186446848" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; They have a growing debt especia...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley's Transfer policy in the 1950's/1960's ...
Replies: 39
Views: 2904

Re: Burnley's Transfer policy in the 1950's/1960's ...

Our records over that period with those two clubs: Spurs: Won 16 Drew 9 Lost 12 United: Won 14 Drew 5 Lost 17 Pretty close really. United gained 5 titles during that period though, and Spurs 2. We could argue we should have had another title at least in ‘62 but for a dramatic collapse. We were any ...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019911

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

For the unaware the Guardian have produced a article outlining the tangled web of money power and politics in the European game - take a deep breath before you dive in https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/feb/15/sportswashing-europes-biggest-clubs-champions-league-owners-sponsors-uefa" onclick...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley's Transfer policy in the 1950's/1960's ...
Replies: 39
Views: 2904

Re: Burnley's Transfer policy in the 1950's/1960's ...

Some terrific research from Claretforever. Applying those Tottenham numbers to the '62 Cup Final against Burnley, it's apparent we were lucky to even be on the same pitch !! Tottenham - Brown £16k, Baker ?, Henry ?, Blanchflower £30k, Norman £28k, Mackay £32k, Medwin £25k, White £22k, Smith £18k, Gr...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley's Transfer policy in the 1950's/1960's ...
Replies: 39
Views: 2904

Re: Burnley's Transfer policy in the 1950's/1960's ...

Imagine what this Board would have looked like back then, if such a thing existed ..... " How big is Mr Lord's Dry Powder Store ? " , posts FulledgeWalter, " No wonder they're having to build that there fancy " Training Centre ", it's to store all our shillings Mr Lord isn't spending " adds Rosehil...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley's Transfer policy in the 1950's/1960's ...
Replies: 39
Views: 2904

Re: Burnley's Transfer policy in the 1950's/1960's ...

That's basically how it was back then, with literally most of the players coming through the junior ranks. We had an incredible youth policy at the time and were able to attract the cream of the youngsters pretty much because of our reputation for their pathway through to the first team. When Casper...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: WARNING - DO NOT OPEN
Replies: 4
Views: 1163

Re: WARNING - DO NOT OPEN

Glen Little's goal against Bristol Rovers is worth watching over and over again. Magical player.
by Royboyclaret
Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Names In The Game That Were In It For Their Own Gain
Replies: 32
Views: 2569

Re: Names In The Game That Were In It For Their Own Gain

Longside4evr wrote:Dobson to Everton Flynn Leeds skippy to Wolves Taffy to Derby in 75 rapped us proper
did Lord
Only Leighton James of those four was sold in 1975.

Bob Lord sold players when the Club needed money, or when a replacement was already available.
by Royboyclaret
Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Names In The Game That Were In It For Their Own Gain
Replies: 32
Views: 2569

Re: Names In The Game That Were In It For Their Own Gain

Our very own how could I not forget him Remember been on the bus and the all bus was talking about another player being sold I was only about 9 at the time I knew it was the obliteration of our squad it seemed like a consent conveyor belt of players being sold Its a good job we had Ian Brennan and ...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019911

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Latest financial results from Manchester United reveal Jose Mourinho and his staff received pay off totalling £19.6m.

Not a bad day's work.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019911

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Athletico Madrid are much admired as a team who have persistently tried to break the duopoly in Spain in recent years - regularly going deep into the Champions league also - but what is the cost - SwissRamble looks at their first set of financial results since moving to their impressive new Stadium...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Gordon Banks
Replies: 57
Views: 4041

Re: Gordon Banks

Hmm just checked. Oct 15, 1966. So I got the wrong month. I remember it was freezing. Haha. We played Leicester again two weeks later, this time at Filbert Street, and lost 1-5. Remarkably Alex Elder scored our only goal that day. Not only that, in the away game at Leicester in the previous season ...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Do we still attribute ‘Europe’ to our poor start to the season?
Replies: 86
Views: 5616

Re: Do we still attribute ‘Europe’ to our poor start to the season?

So there you go. Potts did what the Board told him to do. So if he was running the team now instead of Dyche he would have played a weakened team in the Europa League exactly as he did vs Chelsea to increase Burnley's chances of progressing in European Cup which was a real moneyspinner back in the ...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Do we still attribute ‘Europe’ to our poor start to the season?
Replies: 86
Views: 5616

Re: Do we still attribute ‘Europe’ to our poor start to the season?

Ironically Harry played a weakened side in the league prior to a European Cup tie. However you of all people should know that the finances have completely altered since the Potts era and that the club's current success is dependent on Premier League survival. So in all probability Potts would have ...