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by Royboyclaret
Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves' losses last season
Replies: 23
Views: 3062

Re: Wolves' losses last season

Surprisingly low wages considering the type of players on their books last year. Suspect that Wolves have played this very cleverly in that players of the ilk of Costa, Neves & Cavaleiro will have been convinced to join the Club on the back of a very persuasive argument that promotion, with that ca...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves' losses last season
Replies: 23
Views: 3062

Re: Wolves' losses last season

Beat me to it kaptin !!
by Royboyclaret
Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves' losses last season
Replies: 23
Views: 3062

Re: Wolves' losses last season

I wonder how this figure is reached? First XI alone must be worth around £100,000,000. The £13m figure represents Current Assets only which comprised £10.4m Debtors (money owed to the Club) and Cash at Bank of £2.6m. The asset value of the players can be found under Intangible Assets and a figure a...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9884
Views: 982227

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Another point on PNE - Hemmings has put well over £70m into the club writing off almost half of it - we joke about Rovers and Bolton but that is some way away from a stable sustainable operation - and much more of a contribution than I would like our board to make (not that I think any of them coul...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 30668

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

In agreement with your Turnover last year of £140m, Crosspool.

That figure includes £119.4m TV Income based on our hefty merit payment for finishing 7th.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 30668

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

The issue there is that if we go down we're going to need those parachute payments to pay our wages and for working capital. Even if wages drop by 50% that will eat up pretty much all of the parachute payments. And this supposed "£150m pot" is out of the question too. We'd have to win the PL to rea...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9884
Views: 982227

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

All credit to Preston in that they are able to report a Net Profit based on an Income of just £13.3m, albeit with a significant Profit on Player Sales.

We struggled to break-even in the Championship on similar levels of Turnover.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: John ????? Bob Lord Stand
Replies: 50
Views: 7663

Re: John ????? Bob Lord Stand

Claret Till I Die wrote:You sat in the posh seats Royboy ?
No, not at all.

Good location with a first class view, but standard wooden seat.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 30668

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

Wow, just picked up on this thread for the first time since the match yesterday. Unbelievable the number and content of the responses since then. Proof, if proof was needed, that the BoD made a massive mistake in having just the one informal shareholders meeting in 2012, as this was exactly the kind...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: John ????? Bob Lord Stand
Replies: 50
Views: 7663

Re: John ????? Bob Lord Stand

Sounds like I'm directly behind you DCWat, albeit by a couple of rows. I'm Block 3 T 76.

There's a John in the row in front of us but he never misses a match and has been there for many years.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 1909 FA cup v Spurs
Replies: 28
Views: 2405

Re: 1909 FA cup v Spurs

From 10 minutes into the programme and lasts for just two or three minutes.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 1909 FA cup v Spurs
Replies: 28
Views: 2405

Re: 1909 FA cup v Spurs

South West Claret. wrote:Of thanks how very kind of you...where do you live?
Higham village, just five miles from the Turf. So I guess not very convenient for you !
by Royboyclaret
Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 1909 FA cup v Spurs
Replies: 28
Views: 2405

Re: 1909 FA cup v Spurs

Don't know, but recorded it if you want to nip round. :)
by Royboyclaret
Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 1909 FA cup v Spurs
Replies: 28
Views: 2405

Re: 1909 FA cup v Spurs

Short and sweet, but still well worth the watch. Seemed strange seeing us playing in green for a home game at the Turf. Half-time scoreboard at the back of the BeeHole end and stayed there for many years. Great shot of the inebriated guy being carted off between two policemen. Some things never chan...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 1909 FA cup v Spurs
Replies: 28
Views: 2405

Re: 1909 FA cup v Spurs

In 1909 two sides of the ground were already covered, the original Brunshaw Road Stand and the Star Stand which eventually made way for the Longside Terrace.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 1909 FA cup v Spurs
Replies: 28
Views: 2405

Re: 1909 FA cup v Spurs

Right, a few goals to see then.

With the small original stands 30,000 must have packed the ground to the rafters.

Will be very interesting to watch.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 1909 FA cup v Spurs
Replies: 28
Views: 2405

Re: 1909 FA cup v Spurs

Cheers for that Whatsupdoc, definitely a must see.

We played Tottenham twice in 1909, a league game in front of 8,000 fans and a Cup replay with a crowd of 30,000.

Which one will it be?
by Royboyclaret
Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 30668

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

But that's the very point I'm making, Crosspool.

There are 1,800 of us !!......Not just the secret seven.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 30668

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

ClaretShaun wrote:You might agree with the description but thank the lord he and Sean took control whey did.

Miracle men and we owe them a lot.
And what relevance has that to the debate we're currently having ?
by Royboyclaret
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The name game.
Replies: 31
Views: 3180

Re: The name game.

Very few with U as the first letter in the surname.

Obviously David Unsworth for us and I remember a keeper called Norman Uprichard who played for Arsenal.

But trying to recall one with a christian name beginning with T is a tough one.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 30668

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

I’ve heard from what I consider a reasonable source today (stated as second hand information to me) that we have no chance of redeveloping the older stands for around 10-15 years. That’s what they reckon the life they have left in them is internally at board level. I’m astonished to be honest. I ho...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England’s Number One
Replies: 15
Views: 3111

Re: England’s Number One

Tom has performed to the peak of his abilty since he replaced Hart, but I doubt that will be enough for him to replace Pickford. The Everton keeper can be a liability at times but Southgate seems to rate him highly, I suppose mainly because of the way he plays it out from the back. Goodness knows wh...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 30668

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

Crosspool.....Of one thing I'm certain is that they'll tell us as little as they possibly can. Something happened around six years ago when the Board in their wisdom ended the annual AGM, meaning even the shareholders were denied the opportunity to ask relevant questions. There was a half-hearted ac...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9884
Views: 982227

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

One bit I wasn't aware of was that wage increases in excess of £7m can be funded by Averaged Three Year Player Trading Profit (average profit from player trading over the past three years). With the sale of Gray and Keane I imagine that would give us scope for another £10m or so (probably higher) i...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 30668

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

Have to say that bfcwest puts forward a very powerful argument (and not for the first time on this subject), that additional quality seating will attract additional people to the Turf. It makes sense and, in principle, he's certainly convinced me it's the way forward particularly whilst the finances...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 30668

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

He could also have looked the day before the latest tranche of " Sky TV " monies, which may have been due on the same day as a portion of Michael Keane's transfer fee ... we'll never know .. His statement is just so vague, but maybe deliberately so. However, with the best will in the world, at no r...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 30668

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

I suspect the next accounts will include a hefty bonus for staff & players, based on finishing 7th in the League and qualifying for the Europa League initial stages ..... although it may not be individually set out in the accounts ... Indeed it will, in the same way that the previous years' Wage bi...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 30668

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

boatshed bill wrote:Why doubt the chairman?
Too many just don't realise the cost of running a PL club. The tv money, for the most part, goes to playing staff, management and f""king agents!
I don't hear anyone doubting the Chairman, just that "the last time he looked" is far too vague.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 30668

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

Cheers bfccrazy.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 30668

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

The last two year's accounts have been published on 5th April, so we'll have to wait a few weeks, I suspect .... even so, that will only give us a " Cash at Bank " figure as at close of business on 30th June 2018 .... I did a conservative estimate of the figure to Jun'18 on the "Swansea in trouble:...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank
Replies: 476
Views: 30668

Re: Mike Garlick says we have £24m in bank

Just seen the latest video the club have put out, a 5 minute interview with the Chairman. In response to people who say there must be £100m+ in the bank, he said that last time he looked there was £24m. As an observation from me, the last accounts said that on 30th June 2017 there was £20.1m in the...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Sensational Turf Moor news – Jimmy Mac is transfer listed
Replies: 27
Views: 2682

Re: ARTICLE: Sensational Turf Moor news – Jimmy Mac is transfer listed

A story I heard, from the man himself on Sky Time of Our Lives, was that a man at the time, Cook, I believe was interested in becoming a director which Lord wouldn't allow. However Jimmy was friends with Cook's son and would travel home from games with him instead of with the team on the official c...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Clarets face daunting task at St James
Replies: 28
Views: 4082

Re: Clarets face daunting task at St James

Do you think both managers would take a point now if offered? To be fair, Newcastle also are on a decent run at home at the moment. So, to answer the question, yes I think both managers would take a point if offered it. To extend our unbeaten run to 9 games prior to the home game against Palace wou...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Clarets face daunting task at St James
Replies: 28
Views: 4082

Re: Clarets face daunting task at St James

Momentum and confidence are such key factors.

Based on that our boys probably can't wait to get out on the pitch tomorrow night.

Big chance of a result, for me, irrespective of any stats.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: No injuries from Saturday
Replies: 13
Views: 1806

Re: No injuries from Saturday

Spijed wrote:Is Defour likely to be fit this season?
Physically or mentally?

A great shame for me for a player with so much talent.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: No injuries from Saturday
Replies: 13
Views: 1806

Re: No injuries from Saturday

Surprised to hear that. McNeil walked off with an ice-pack on his right knee and Barnes was noticeably limping for the final five minutes.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9884
Views: 982227

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

My recollection of the QPR situation was that there was a catalogue of errors at the club over a period of time and it was ironic that Lee Hoos was central to the whole sorry mess. That said, the big mistake came from the FL when they allowed QPR back into the Championship after the club had flouted...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: McNeil is a centre midfielder
Replies: 36
Views: 4473

Re: McNeil is a centre midfielder

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Not for me he isn't.

Perfect where he is. 8-)
Absolutely, and watching the game back last night, was shocked to hear Jon Walters claim centre-mid was his real position. I remember his earliest games on the Turf a few seasons ago and they were all played wide left.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: League Cup Final
Replies: 91
Views: 5905

Re: League Cup Final

Bin Ont Turf wrote:A player wouldn't have acted like that under Dyche.
You're probably right BOT, but his opinion on the actual incident will be interesting.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: League Cup Final
Replies: 91
Views: 5905

Re: League Cup Final

Have to say that the beautiful game has sunk to a new low today. And to make the whole thing even more unedifying, if that were possible, both the player and manager will no doubt claim language and communication difficulties caused the problem. Pathetic by all concerned and a seriously bad day for ...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Barley is FULL!
Replies: 130
Views: 12740

Re: Barley is FULL!

Happy to welcome all visitors to Higham village.

Park sensibly and enjoy a pleasant walk to Pendle Hill.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea
Replies: 16
Views: 1532

Re: Chelsea

What did the FA do wrong then? Apart from let Chelsea get away with of course. I think that's just it, Sid. The suspicion was that the FA knew all along that Chelsea were transgressing the rules, but chose to turn a blind eye. Now they both pay the price, and rightly so. Seems the bigger the club t...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea
Replies: 16
Views: 1532

Re: Chelsea

Culmination of a three year FIFA investigation into signing of young players.

The ban covers the next two transfer windows and also fined £460,000, with the FA also fined £391,000.

A lengthy investigation but justice done in the end.
by Royboyclaret
Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain
Replies: 25
Views: 3074

Re: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain

That would be the current cricket ground, I would think. That's where the original Accrington played their league games. They shared with the cricket club. Ah right.........So when did they move over to Peel Park? I remember my dad taking me to Peel Park for a friendly against us to 'open' their ne...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain
Replies: 25
Views: 3074

Re: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain

I think I was mascot for the Final, but the memory is a bit hazy. :)
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain
Replies: 25
Views: 3074

Re: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain

As a matter of interest on our way to that first Final against Blackburn Rovers in 1889/90 we beat Rossendale 4-3, Haydock 15-0 & Higher Walton 7-0.

Some scoring performances there !
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain
Replies: 25
Views: 3074

Re: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain

Just looking at a wonderful team photo of the first time we won this trophy back in 1889/90, just a mere 130 years ago. Our players look so proud showing off the trophy. It turns out we only beat Blackburn Rovers 2-0 in the Final played at Accrington, with Alex Stewart and Alex McLardie scoring the ...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain
Replies: 25
Views: 3074

Re: ARTICLE: Raining goals in the Gawthorpe rain

It really is a fantastic trophy Seem to remember this was a trophy the Burnley Reserves won on a regular basis back in the 60's. The boy Richardson sounds to be a goal machine, the first thing that came to mind when his age was mentioned was a certain 16 year old Tommy Lawton making his debut for u...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9884
Views: 982227

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Indeed, but it's fascinating to look a little bit behind that "100%" figure in the 2012/13 season. I guess it would have been the last of our parachute payment seasons which meant we ended that financial year with a Total Income of a mere £15.3m. With a Wage bill of £15.4m it meant that even before ...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Out of the cup at Liverpool as Mac says farewell to Burnley
Replies: 12
Views: 1074

Re: ARTICLE: Out of the cup at Liverpool as Mac says farewell to Burnley

Whilst in no way supporting Bob Lord in selling Jimmy Mac he was 32yo. In an age where players didn't go much beyond that, he’d also had a succession of injuries. As it led to the Brian O’Neil/Bomber Harris midfield with hindsight it wasn’t that bad a decision. Tin hat on, shinpads in waiting for t...