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by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Replies: 721
Views: 27443

Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)

Check the Total and Percent columns, not long balls. Verbruggen is deployed way less but his accuracy is way, way above Trafford's. His worst is better than all but 3 of Trafford's, his 2nd worst is better than all of Trafford's. He's a more accurate passer. Which is what makes the reliance on Traf...
by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
Replies: 180
Views: 6696

Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?

Firthy wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:08 pm
I seriously wonder if there's something in Traffords contract that he has to start every Premier game if fit. I can't think of any other reason why Muric isn't getting a chance after the mistakes Trafford has made.
You can stop wondering. There isn't.
by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Replies: 721
Views: 27443

Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)

I’m not a regular contributor on UTC but I always really enjoy reading comments and seeing what other fans are thinking on the current status of the team. Since day dot I’ve been perplexed by the Trafford situation and felt the casting aside of Muric was rank man management. For my money, it should...
by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Squad for next season, STAY OR GO
Replies: 53
Views: 3168

Re: Squad for next season, STAY OR GO

GK: Trafford and Muric STAY - Peacock-Farrell GO, Vigeroux - I know nothing about him except that he's a goalkeeper. Full back: Vitinho, Taylor STAY - Roberts, Assignon GO Central defenders: Beyer, Ekdal, Al Dakhil, O'Shea STAY - Delcroix, Egan Riley GO (isn't he a full back?) - esteve, McNally DON'...
by dsr
Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Amdouni
Replies: 142
Views: 7729

Re: Amdouni

Foster has been a huge, huge miss. Fofana gash today and if he carries on like that there’ll be a good case for bringing Amdouni in to replace him because he’s not done any worse than that. I thought Amdouni showed a bit more effort in his sub appearance than we have been used to, which is a good t...
by dsr
Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Replies: 721
Views: 27443

Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)

The difference today was absolutely the GK. 3 shots on target and 2 went in...... We were the better team today. To lose 2 nil is gutting. To be fair, he would probably have saved the second shot on target if it hadn't been deflected. But you have a point about the volley blasted past him from 6 ya...
by dsr
Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 725
Views: 43220

Re: Season tickets next season

Jamesy wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:09 pm
Good point. It would be a nice gesture to freeze season ticket prices for anyone who had held one continuously for a period of ten years or more.
Perhaps with an exemption for the first post-covid season?
by dsr
Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
Replies: 180
Views: 6696

Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?

I'm implying that they can't be as regular as some are making out - especially for a team that played so expansively! And by the same definition, Trafford's mistakes can't be as regular as some are making out. He also let in less than a goal a game. Or is it suggested that playing in the PL is diff...
by dsr
Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
Replies: 180
Views: 6696

Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:58 pm
Must have been an strange coincidence then to concede less than a goal a game for all of last season with such a mistake prone keeper.
Are you implying that a goalkeeper who concedes less than a goal a game in a lower league, can't be a mistake-prone keeper?
by dsr
Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Louis XVII
Replies: 46
Views: 2860

Re: Louis XVII

Judging from the vocabulary of the article, I would presume that the "middling sort" is used because the author thinks too many plebs would understand what he meant by "middle class".
by dsr
Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Assisted dying
Replies: 77
Views: 2713

Re: Assisted dying

This is really two different types of scenario. One, someone in the last few days of life and suffering badly; two, someone who may have a year, two years, ten years, even fifty years to live. The first scenario shouldn't be used to justify the second.
by dsr
Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
Replies: 180
Views: 6696

Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?

Vim Fuego wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:04 pm
He is an absolute genius with how he can spray a pass quickly
With Brownhill being suspended, surely the ideal time to play Muric.
by dsr
Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Assisted dying
Replies: 77
Views: 2713

Re: Assisted dying

I personally don’t like situations where governments who I have no faith in at all are making decisions based on factors about my family and in a way micro managing everything … I’m fairly sure the likes of Boris Johnson when he was in power with his rules for the masses and rules for himself and h...
by dsr
Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Re: The words to the Black leg miner.
Replies: 30
Views: 1776

Re: Re: The words to the Black leg miner.

DAFTER! It was reductio ad absurdum. It's supposed to be daft, because all this nostalgia and romance about the jolly pitmen and their desire to stop people working is ridiculous - not least because there is no way that the pits would be open now even if John Major (not Margaret Thatcher) hadn't cl...
by dsr
Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 725
Views: 43220

Re: Season tickets next season

Seriously considering not renewing The excellent work VK did the season before has been eradicated by some unknown belief that he could move to another higher level by buying inexperienced young guys who knew nothing about the Premier League And even when it was clear this plan was not working he f...
by dsr
Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Re: The words to the Black leg miner.
Replies: 30
Views: 1776

Re: Re: The words to the Black leg miner.

Why are there no campaigns to reopen the pits? There must be plenty of people still around who worked in the pits as young men and would be only too anxious to send their grandchildren down there. Can't something be done? We could do with more fuel self-sufficiency and there is loads of coal still d...
by dsr
Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Assisted dying
Replies: 77
Views: 2713

Re: Assisted dying

We are half way there with the 'Do not resuscitate' scheme. My own opinion is, there is too much money in medicine sales keeping older people alive when they have no quality of life. So they will be kept alive. If money is the concern, there is far more money involved in seeing your loved ones payi...
by dsr
Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Replies: 215
Views: 8255

Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?

Because what is the alternative? There has been £80 million of external investment into a business like Burnley with no equity, publicity or anything? There are mystery individuals who lend tens of millions to pay off loans when required? ALK couldn't find enough money to pay the former owners up f...
by dsr
Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Replies: 215
Views: 8255

Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?

Hi dsr, yes, the club's owners/shareholders owed the club (July 2022 accounts) £115 million. ALK borrowed £65 million from MSD immediately before they bought the previous directors' shares in Dec 2020 and a couple of days later transferred this loan to the club. We also know that repayments were ma...
by dsr
Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Best All English XI of Premier League era
Replies: 25
Views: 978

Re: Best All English XI of Premier League era

I'd have Boyd ahead of Blake in my team. Apart from the goal v Man United, Blake didn't really do much in the PL for Burnley.
by dsr
Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Replies: 85
Views: 3719

Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?

A good meal in the Longside Lounge. I'm almost tempted to go home after that! (The way Bournemouth played against Man C, I have no expectations of getting a result.)
by dsr
Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Best All English XI of Premier League era
Replies: 25
Views: 978

Re: Best All English XI of Premier League era

I think we once played an all-English XI under Dyche. Possibly not the starting XI, but the XI on the pitch after some subs came on.
by dsr
Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Louis XVII
Replies: 46
Views: 2860

Re: Louis XVII

Strong parallels between Louis and VK Loved at first but made bad decisions and ultimately was disposed in Jan 1793. Louis XVII died aged 10 in 1795 and made very few decisions because he was a prisoner of the republic, kept in solitary confinement in a barred room (with no toilet) which became exc...
by dsr
Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Replies: 215
Views: 8255

Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?

Equally, missing saying that most of that money was already committed to pay wages doesn't "fabricate" a strong argument that it was all borrowed by new owners to but the club. UTC We know that ALK have taken £115m in money out of the club. We know that £65m of this was borrowed by the club at high...
by dsr
Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Replies: 215
Views: 8255

Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?

Whatever the reasons and sources of the cash, we do know that up to July 2022 the owners had taken £115m out of the club by way of interest-free loan and that the club had had to pay many millions in interest to service it. The loan and the interest paid could have been used for other purposes, eg. ...
by dsr
Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224794

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I don't think that's really a scenario. It's not as easy as many think to asset strip a business, particularly a football club, so what would be in it for ALK? They'd just be making their shares worthless. At present, it is to ALK's advantage to keep BFC running because the assets are greater than ...
by dsr
Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Trafford Contract
Replies: 90
Views: 5245

Re: Trafford Contract

I was told months ago that VK had money tied up in the Trafford deal … City have a buy back clause of triple what they paid for him, meaning VK would make a profit of 300% on the deal .. That’s why he doesn’t get dropped and keeps defending him ! Of course people will try to say I’m wrong & he can’...
by dsr
Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chris Nicholll RIP
Replies: 23
Views: 2203

Re: Chris Nicholll RIP

Also famous for scoring all 4 goals for Villa in a 2-2 draw with Leicester.
by dsr
Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Director of football ?
Replies: 8
Views: 1013

Re: Director of football ?

Perhaps it's time for a more experienced director of football to come in.Roberto Martinez or similar may help our direction. VK seems devoid of a plan ABor C and a fresh slant may help him What is your idea of what a director of football would do? It can be a huge range of things depending on the c...
by dsr
Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Trafford Contract
Replies: 90
Views: 5245

Re: Trafford Contract

Poulton-le-Claret wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:26 am
No, I just think VK is stubborn and feeling like he has to play his big money signing.
Which is why Tresor and Ramsey have about 6 starts between them?
by dsr
Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Worried more about next season
Replies: 42
Views: 2531

Re: Worried more about next season

I am beginning to worry more about next season than this one. There seems to be a total expectation that we will be promoted back into the PL when it is just as likely that league one beckons. There are hardly any redeeming features that suggest that the weaknesses in the team and management that a...
by dsr
Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Amdouni
Replies: 142
Views: 7729

Re: Amdouni

I don’t know what some fans watch, I think he’s technically brilliant and see a real player in him. Some of the dribbling and turns are outrageous bits of skill, the structure of the team is just terrible. The sides so bad it’s easy to scapegoat the player who runs around like a headless chicken th...
by dsr
Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mr Bates vs the Post Office
Replies: 305
Views: 28426

Re: Mr Bates vs the Post Office

Well what is ? The post office are saying there could be 300 plus who were correctly convicted and they have the “evidence”. Why for one second would we believe one word they say or a shred of their so called evidence ? Remember the innocent and possibly the odd guilty person have already suffered ...
by dsr
Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 4th test
Replies: 70
Views: 3695

Re: 4th test

bfc8 wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:38 am
Root 66 not out 66 when I looked.
Is that a tribute to the late Fred Elliot? ;)
by dsr
Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What can I do with a BFC single share?
Replies: 69
Views: 4932

Re: What can I do with a BFC single share?

Why would the offer have been illegal? Surely the club could make an offer to buy shares at whatever value and on whatever terms they deem reasonable? No. If the club has paid £x to the majority shareholders, and they also want to buy the minority shareholders' shares, they are supposed to offer th...
by dsr
Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brownhill
Replies: 19
Views: 1124

Re: Brownhill

Taken a long time for a lot on this board to realise that Brownhill is at best a poor championship player. True enough. You've clearly forgotten last season when he proved himself to be a very good championship player. Those of us with longer memories, memories that go back a full season or more, h...
by dsr
Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Are poor coaching techniques at fault
Replies: 22
Views: 1409

Re: Are poor coaching techniques at fault

I think the answer is as simple as saying that tall players are better headers of the ball than small players.
by dsr
Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Why's my milk not going off?
Replies: 36
Views: 2160

Re: Why's my milk not going off?

The stuff that was originally added to make long life milk, is now added in smaller doses to ordinary milk, which is why it lasts longer. As for going off, there is little danger in drinking sour milk. You can buy it off the shelf. And even if drinking sour milk is in some way bad for your particula...
by dsr
Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Single, child free and not lonely
Replies: 84
Views: 4955

Re: Single, child free and not lonely

works both ways though, i suspect some claiming they are happy to be single and have no kids say that as a coping mechanism for not being fortunate enough to experience it I think, rather than accusing people of lying, it might be both more tactful and more accurate to suppose that such people woul...
by dsr
Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Referee Lewis Smith steps into PL
Replies: 15
Views: 1224

Re: Referee Lewis Smith steps into PL

Whilst not wishing to hijack, the name Rebecca Welch reminded me…. Did she get another game in the PL after the Fulham game? Bournemouth tried to make out she had a shocker because she sent off Billing for kicking a Forest player. Some of them believed that if you kick someone because he is trying ...
by dsr
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Are Arsenal playing more British game than us?
Replies: 7
Views: 779

Re: Are Arsenal playing more British game than us?

alboclaret wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:47 pm
I'm no sold on, dyche did what he had to with the squad he had thinking.
Some of them players became better "footballers" overnight when he left.
Which players became better footballers?
by dsr
Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Serial winners?
Replies: 6
Views: 1020

Re: Serial winners?

Out of two possible reasons why Man city are better than Burnley - either (1) that they have spent more money on better players, or (2) that their manager shouts louder than ours - I'd say the spending money is the really significant factor. If Pep lost his voice and Kompany got sent off a few times...
by dsr
Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Trafford individual errors/points lost
Replies: 63
Views: 3000

Re: Trafford individual errors/points lost

I'm going to say if Trafford has conceded say 5 by his errors, do we think that Muric would have conceded fewer over the same number of games from mistakes. He's been blamed for a lot more than 5. Liverpool 3 goals conceded, he was blamed for 2. Fulham 2 goals conceded, he was blamed for 2. Man Cit...
by dsr
Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?
Replies: 71
Views: 3691

Re: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?

Wasn’t Trafford heard shouting for the ball? No idea, but even if he was, that is a signal for the players to get out of the way of Trafford, not a signal to stop marking the forwards. Not that anyone was marking Jota. Obviously Trafford made the wrong choice, and his better choice would have been ...
by dsr
Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?
Replies: 71
Views: 3691

Re: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?

I can't believe that our defence left Jota unmarked from the corner because they felt that Trafford was coming. Past evidence would have suggested that Trafford wasn't likely to come, and the defence between them ought to have stopped Jota from having a free header.
by dsr
Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?
Replies: 71
Views: 3691

Re: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?

The biggest difference between those two situations is that we didn't spend going up towards 20 million on Joe Hart. So when SD belatedly brought Heaton back into the team for Hart -- it was a purely football decision. Why is this nonsense theory that Kompany would rather be relegated than be seen ...
by dsr
Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Trafford individual errors/points lost
Replies: 63
Views: 3000

Re: Trafford individual errors/points lost

Its not Trafford's fault he has been put in this position. Of course he is going to make mistakes at his age. Additionally he has no experience of playing at this level. If you are going to blame someone blame Kompany and the club policy He's got more experinece of playing at this level than Muric ...
by dsr
Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VAR (AGAIN)
Replies: 44
Views: 3024

Re: VAR (AGAIN)

This one isn't on VAR. All refs are trained nowadays to give a free kick when a player falls over and not to give it when a player doesn't fall over. 10 refs out of 10 would wave play on when a player gets kicked but carries on. You hear it all the time, "if he had gone down, the ref would have had ...
by dsr
Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Trafford individual errors/points lost
Replies: 63
Views: 3000

Re: Trafford individual errors/points lost

Surely top half. If you count up the goals he has been blamed for, it's at least half of them, which puts us better than all bar Liverpool and Arsenal. When you add in the extra goals that Muric would have created with his passing - 4 or 5 at least - then we would surely be challenging for 6th place.