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by TVC15
Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

I was on row 1 on the bottom tier yesterday - so the view was pretty awful...especially when the ball was at the far end. We did not have any real clue what happened with Grays "chance" in the 2nd half....but I assumed from the comments on this thread that it was a good one. Thought it was a bit str...
by TVC15
Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

Of these three events, Gray's was the most clear cut. Vokes header: he did amazingly well to get as close as he did Arfield: this is down to skill of Clichy as well as inadequacy of Arfield Gray: clear cut chance that most prem strikers would've buried He was dreadful throughout today. I remember o...
by TVC15
Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

Claretto wrote:F'in stupid person
Yep you're that also if you are seriously saying Gray cost us a point today.....Vokes header ?

Did Vokes cost us a point aswell ?

Arfield giving Clichy too much room ? Cost us a point ?
by TVC15
Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

Claretto wrote:I wish he could've saved some of those goals for more important occasions. He cost us a point today
F'in stupid comment
by TVC15
Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

Yep but his record against Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid is truly awful : 0 goals / 0 assists.

And how many goals has he got in the World Cup Finals ? - on the big stage where it really matters ?.....again zero.

Enough said
by TVC15
Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

Thought Gray had a poor game today

Dyche should have hooked him early doors.

Awful awful first touch

Dyche needs to go....we'd do a lot worse than appoint Bumba and Mohammed as our new management team - on the condition of course they are allowed time off school.
by TVC15
Fri Dec 30, 2016 4:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

Embarrassing that you can't read - I have never said he had a good first touch - as many have pointed out on this thread his first touch is not why we bought him - it's his pace, power and goals. He offers what nobody ends in the team does. Are you saying you would prefer a striker with a great firs...
by TVC15
Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

I'm not sure how he even won that vote he wasn't even the best player in our team. Yes we call Rhodes because he's good at his job, we don't ever call bad b@stard players do we? He was voted for by people who know a lot more about football than you ever will....but hey carry on arguing that you are...
by TVC15
Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

If Andre gray played for the venkys we would slate everything about him, just like Burnley fans do with Jordan Rhodes. Rhodes is much better technically than gray yet we call Rhodes and defend gray? Clearly that's your view It's not the view of Dyche It doesn't seem like it's the view of Karanka It...
by TVC15
Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

It's an even stranger way of awarding points given Defour is being hooked after 60 minutes because he is often out on his feet - Dyche obviously thinks that if he was left on the pitch then there is a very good chance that we would lose any advantage we had in the game. Your way of calculating point...
by TVC15
Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

"I have a suspicion that if you awarded us points for each game based just on the minutes Defour is on the pitch, we would be top half. I suspect the same doesn't apply to Andre" That wound be a very strange way of awarding points ! I don't agree with every decision Dyche makes and I would also like...
by TVC15
Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Trippier
Replies: 77
Views: 14956

Re: Trippier

What wage is Tripps on ?

I would think we are paying Defour and Hendrick (and possibly Keane) between £30k and £40k a week. Is Tripps on much more ?

It was reported that that the contract we offered Keane was £40k a week.
by TVC15
Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

He meant against Bournemouth you melt
by TVC15
Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

"You don't understand the controversy" ?

Maybe it's because you are bullish-itting that you played at a decent standard

Maybe it's because you think you know more than Dyche

Maybe it's because you said that most people agree with you

Or maybe it's just because you are a pr-ick
by TVC15
Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

No not you - mohamed69....presumably the number relates to his IQ

Now put your weapon down diesel - I''m a lover not a fighter !
by TVC15
Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

Ignore the pr-ick
by TVC15
Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

There's no point continuing to speak with someone who claims to watch all of our games but also believes Gray has the best touch of all of our strikers. Something must be wrong. Seek help please. Merry Christmas When you go back to school after Santa has been see if you can get them to get your rea...
by TVC15
Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

mohamed69 wrote:I think even Stevie Wonder would agree with me. Maybe Helen Keller?
I tend to agree with you on this one as all 3 of you probably have a similar knowledge of the game !
by TVC15
Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

He does have the worst touch on our team. Do you have eyes? You should cancel your season ticket and subscription to clarets player if that's what you are seeing, because you aren't getting the full benefit of reality. Just because you keep repeating it doesn't mean it's fact. You do realise that d...
by TVC15
Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

No pistols at dawn then ?

Darn it !
by TVC15
Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

He clearly has pace and strength. But his touch is awful, yes. And I'm not sure SD would disagree...he has openly stated that his link up play needs more work. How can you watch him play a match and see things any differently? It really is incomprehensible. Me saying I have played at a good level w...
by TVC15
Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

Incomprehensible ? Really ? So you think you opinion is more valid than Sean Dyche and the vast majority of Burnley fans ? And you think saying you have played at a decent standard (which I doubt) makes your views on Gray more valid. Between you, Bumba and the other clown so far you have all said th...
by TVC15
Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

Not what I said - I was commenting on him comparing it to the rest of our team which.

I didn't say anywhere in my post he had a good or bad touch - I said it was similar to our other strikers.

Any other sh-ite points to raise ?
by TVC15
Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

There really has been some sh-ite spouted on this thread but Grays goal v Liverpool being lucky is up there with the lot. And he had a bad second half did he ?....given burnley hardly touched the ball in that second half I'm guessing he wasn't on his own. As for his first touch it just shows how lit...
by TVC15
Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

Will he be Jermain Defoe or Rohann Ricketts? Both showed good early promise, one delivered on it, the other didn't. Neither, he will be Andre Gray. A mixed bag. It's all down to judgement. Mine is that he will be a top end Championship striker at best. That's not a criticism, just a view on his str...
by TVC15
Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

Not sure why anyone thinks he is quick. I can't think of a single prem defender he's outpaced. However, I do think he's showing signs of improvement. How about the whole of the Liverpool defence for his goal and also for the chance in the second half when he rolled their centre back and sprinted aw...
by TVC15
Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

bumba wrote:An honest opinion that he isn't good enough is now an agenda?
Yep
by TVC15
Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

We was talking about goals and assists We were talking about assists - but you have been on your own agenda for the whole of this thread As for one goal and 2 assists not being good enough - it's funny how you seem to completely ignore what's happened to him this season with the ban....or the fact ...
by TVC15
Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

bumba wrote:One goal two assists
Vokes has four goals and one assist
Defour has one goal and three assists I put gray third

That puts him second in assists ffs !
by TVC15
Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

bumba wrote:How does he rank in the charts this season?
Pr-ick
by TVC15
Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

Complete nonsense. Let's at least state facts. In around 18 games for Burnley against top half sides last season (due to where they finished) Gray scored 5 goals, of which 2 were penalties. That's scoring in about 15% of games ignoring pens. That's a fact. You can dress it up how you want but stats...
by TVC15
Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

Where did I say his pathetic 25 goals in the championship? I said he struggled against top centre halves which he did an always does. Not clutching at straws by stating the facts about how he scored those goals. I understand fans can be biased towards there favorite players just like some fans will...
by TVC15
Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

Sheff weds and Brighton away were tap ins on the goal line, derby and Brighton at home were penalties. He struggled against any team with decent centre halves and is really struggling in the premier league F-uck me some fans will clutch at any straw when they have it in for a player. Gray scored an...
by TVC15
Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 372
Views: 43691

Re: Andre Gray

Gray wasn't good enough last year against the top sides so it was hard to see him being good enough this year, but he is full of potential and may well improve over the season (albeit will never master his first touch). He also stretches the opposition. I think as well his misses against Sours and ...
by TVC15
Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Hughes accuses Barnes
Replies: 36
Views: 7325

Re: ARTICLE: Hughes accuses Barnes

Shawcross broke Ramsey's leg - though Pulis was manager I think

Then there's Charlie Adam - was it Gareth Bale he has injured on more than one occasion with horrendous challenges ?

Barnes' challenge was not great to be fair but Hughes is still a hypocritical pr-ick
by TVC15
Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Hughes accuses Barnes
Replies: 36
Views: 7325

Re: ARTICLE: Hughes accuses Barnes

Saxoman wrote:Huuuuuughsey!
Is a 2 faced welsh ex bast-ard

He was a dirty snide footballer and now he's a dirty snide manager with a massive chip on his shoulder
by TVC15
Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: After five games, what have we learnt to date?
Replies: 75
Views: 9936

Re: After five games, what have we learnt to date?

1) it's going to be a long hard season for Burnley 2) the gulf between teams is getting bigger - hardly a big surprise when the likes of West Brom, Crystal Palace and Leicester are signing £30m players 3) Sunderland are in for another relegation battle and Moyes does not have Big Sam's track record ...
by TVC15
Wed Aug 17, 2016 2:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Grammar School/Habergham High School
Replies: 157
Views: 23080

Re: Burnley Grammar School/Habergham High School

I'm taking that was a different era to me - I was there 78 to 85 and we never lost a game to any school from Burnley. Infact we must have only lost less than a handful of games in the first 5 years before 6th form to any team we played in Lancashire. I do remember the year below me not reaching the ...
by TVC15
Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Grammar School/Habergham High School
Replies: 157
Views: 23080

Re: Burnley Grammar School/Habergham High School

fondly remember them finishing runners up behind Teds at every sport for all the years I went to Teds.

They had decent players though - just not as good as us !! :D
by TVC15
Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What do you do for a Living ?
Replies: 249
Views: 41172

Re: What do you do for a Living ?

I went to a charity do a few years ago and bumped into an old school friend who I had not seen for years. Asked him what he was doing and he said he was an opera singer and was singing at the charity do ......he asked me what I was doing so I just said I was a pilot - i`m not sure why I said that. S...
by TVC15
Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: dyche it could all go wrong
Replies: 74
Views: 15102

Re: dyche it could all go wrong

Now don`t jump my throat please

....but its commas not commers

Haha !!!