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by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 107
Views: 9318

Re: On this day

23rd February 1924 100 years to the.day. Burnley 1 Huddersfield 0 FA Cup 3rd round. Record attendance of 54,775 Almost beyond belief that close to 55 thousand people could be shoe-horned into Turf Moor, especially as the Bee Hole End still sloped to just a few steps towads Brunshaw Road at that tim...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9974
Views: 1011496

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Another podcast from Unofficial Partner and another subject that is likely to have a significant effect on the game - it is only touched upon here but I thing the use of AI analysis in game is one of the big threats for those that the resources to dominate. It is obvious that the game is moving tow...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The future is difficult to fathom out
Replies: 45
Views: 2508

Re: The future is difficult to fathom out

From a purely "Who can we sell to raise money" perspective Muric is the most interesting. He will want away in the summer, Trafford did nothing wrong yesterday, but its time to put Music in the shop window and protect his value. Muric is our top keeper.....most people recognise that, except the per...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7282

Re: What a ******* shambles!

Yes, correct. We haven't found it this season or more importantly recruited it. The winter window was much better but too little too late and still didn't solve the issue in the middle of the park. All of which, surely, was the responsibility of one person. An absolute waste of a special season.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7282

Re: What a ******* shambles!

but he put in the hard yards (and tackles) to allow the flair players to flourish. We are just too meek. We can't afford a Rodri or Rice but these type of players are vital to the success City and Arsenal will have this season. City miss Rodri more than they miss De Bruyne, I think stats have backe...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7282

Re: What a ******* shambles!

Aye but what I'm saying there's hardly going to be a buzz of going in a new direction - poor campaigns can lead to a massive hangover into the next season; it's not like narrowly missing out and thinking 'yep next time we can stay up', it's like, 'christ, where do we go from here?' Fully take your ...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7282

Re: What a ******* shambles!

Bit before my time but would suggest Brian O'Neill might have been someone who did the dirty things we speak of. What would you give for him in the middle of the park today? Well, for the ten minutes before he'd be sent off. Trust me Goody......Brian was more than capable of looking after himself !
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7282

Re: What a ******* shambles!

& the fans, what hope is there to give over summer? It's not like we're starting a fresh like we were in summer 2022. We will always be there since many decades ago. But, as DCWat points posts, important players like Benson and Zaroury need to be influential, as they should have been this season.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7282

Re: What a ******* shambles!

It's been a mess. The Premier League has players that are not only technically light years ahead of the Championship but physically a different species. You cannot go into a season where you are unable to keep a clean sheet, the one thing Dyche made sure of is that no matter how badly we played he ...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7282

Re: What a ******* shambles!

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:25 pm
Different level, playing against teams who spend more on one player than we do as a team, is it really that difficult to work out?
Not difficult at all.....fully understand that.....but Kompany's approach to everything is beyond belief.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7282

Re: What a ******* shambles!

After several hours of reflection I'm still trying to understand the contrast from last season to this nonsense.

What exactly is Kompany's thinking ?
by Royboyclaret
Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Vincent Kompany
Replies: 118
Views: 9272

Re: Vincent Kompany

Hapag Lloyd wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:29 pm
Come on Stanley, wtf did Mark Monnington ever win apart from that fight with a Rochdale player in front of the Longside.
Right in front of me, and there was only one winner.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 107
Views: 9318

Re: On this day

bfc8 wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:23 am
17/2/1968, Burnley 2 Manchester United 1.
Good win over that season's European Cup winners.
A very special goal from Brian O'Neil on a memorable day......Thanks for the reminder bfc8.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9974
Views: 1011496

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

otd 1901 Burnley 7 Newton Heath 1 FAC, had thought it a bit old to mention ! Everton, dire, but. There is a chance someone is keeping their powder dry spotting a good long term opportunity, maybe following administration, maybe not. And may need some years in 'div 2', level 2. Positive would be inv...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9974
Views: 1011496

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The "inner-circle" at Everton are now suggesting imminent problems.

As an aside bfc8, really missing your "On this day" threads.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.
Replies: 36
Views: 1898

Re: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:32 pm
Wouldn't have minded taking the chance.
Trust me it was not the best experience.

But the best part for for me was that we accepted defeat in the appropriate manner.

Tottenham, however, seven months later, did not do that.......Harry Potts would not have accepted that.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9974
Views: 1011496

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Some of the mess was due to excessive spending on players under changing managers so no team pattern. But the bulk is due to the spending on the new stadium financed by short term loans. Spurs had even higher new stadium spending and stadium debt, but the borrowing is sensible long term loans. Ever...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.
Replies: 36
Views: 1898

Re: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.

Okay. I was a season ticket holder though only 9/10 throughout it. Easter Sunday my cousins came to our house where they got their annual Easter eggs off my mum. The eldest was 13 and my mum said to him she thought he was too old for an Easter egg. His head dropped but rose again pretty quickly whe...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9974
Views: 1011496

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Most of this report is just opinion, but if the shared, new, rumour that 777 Partners I mainly given Everton an i.o.u rather than hard cash is true, there there really are going to be problems for the club and potentially a number of it's suppliers/service providers/creditors - the latter including...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.
Replies: 36
Views: 1898

Re: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.

Where's Silky with his story?
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.
Replies: 36
Views: 1898

Re: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.

More than happy to hear it Silky.....that was a very special time. Thing was that third goal by Bobby Smith, immediately in front of us, was a tough one to take, but the Burnley players took it with grace and humility. Fast forward some seven months and wer'e drawn against them again in the Third R...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.
Replies: 36
Views: 1898

Re: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.

My brother went by train from Accrington, I think. Set off around midnight getting into London 6/7am and the return journey leaving London around midnight and getting back in Accrington around 6/7am. I was also 10 like CT, had a ticket but you don't want to hear the saga I've explained many times o...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ian Lawson passes away
Replies: 18
Views: 1730

Re: Ian Lawson passes away

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:04 pm
Lawson scored in the cup against Huddersfield

https://www.uptheclarets.com/fixtures-r ... 57-results
A special goal that was at Huddersfield and then played in the 6th Round draw at Villa.......and for some reason did'nt play in the replay at Villa Park.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ian Lawson passes away
Replies: 18
Views: 1730

Re: Ian Lawson passes away

Of course Ray was about to come along.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20375

Re: Blackburn......

An utter financial disaster is about to unfold at Ewood Park.....Oh dear.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20375

Re: Blackburn......

Removal of their team manager is the very least of their current worries.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20375

Re: Blackburn......

It is all down to the whims of Narendra Modi in reality - the iron grip he has on the country and the ruthlessness in which he is willing to exercise his power is similar to those of his BRICS stable mates in China, Russia and Saudi (now that they have joined the group). Modi's focus is on strength...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20375

Re: Blackburn......

Chester Perry wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:05 pm
my curiosity is aroused - if not ALK/VSL then who?
Be assured not ALK......probably best to add little else on here.

Chester, how do you see the current situation playing out with particular regard to the Indian authorities ?
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20375

Re: Blackburn......

claptrappers_union wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:49 am
I can think of at least two occasions, one where CJ Egan-Riley missed the initial opportunity to go on loan to PSV due to an admin error. Another time was when the club was punished with a transfer embargo over not submitting accounts.
Transfer embargo?......ALK in no way responsible.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20375

Re: Blackburn......

ALK do struggle with paperwork to be fair Submitting necessary paperwork has never been a problem for ALK. But back to Venkateshrawa Hatcheries Ltd........For 14 years they have injected north of £300m into Blackburn Rovers.......What exactly have they gained from this?........this latest intervent...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20375

Re: Blackburn......

Westleigh wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:27 pm
Just looked they’ve got a Facebook group called Venky’s and Waggot Out ,they’ve got 61 members.😂😂
They should be very careful what they wish for.

Without Venky's they would be long gone.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20375

Re: Blackburn......

Be interesting to hear from Chester Perry regarding the latest financial developments in India, these will be crucial to the very future of Blackburn Rovers Football Club.

Not looking good for our neighbours.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20375

Re: Blackburn......

" Royboyclaret " ... are the Venkys London Ltd/ Blackburn Rovers Football & Athletic Ltd Directors now getting towards the stage of being subject to accusations of " Conducting Business whilst knowingly trading insolvently " ? For years now both sets of accounts have included paragraphs indicating ...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20375

Re: Blackburn......

Simply a ridiculous situation that was allowed to play out with the player.

After 14 years of propping up the club Venky's knew full well at that date that finance was unavailable to complete the transfer and, for that matter, any future transactions in the immediate future.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20375

Re: Blackburn......

Clarets4me wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:11 pm
Is that from the Venky's by choice, or due to legal constraints ?
Purely legal.......Venky's have been more than accommodating to Blackburn over many years.

Now circumstances appear to have changed.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20375

Re: Blackburn......

ElectroClaret wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:53 pm
Yes, of course that situation can only be temporary.
Perhaps Rovers are just hoping, like Mr. Micawber, that
"something will turn up".

(Was it Micawber?)
Past the point of no return........at least that's the verdict in India.......no more £20m pocket money.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20375

Re: Blackburn......

Yes, that's the thinking .... 50% up front so £9m due straight away, and the £500k fee from the sale of Ennis to Stoke was to cover the loan fee to Orlando City. By the Summer, I suspect they're hoping the Court case will be settled .. I hadn't seen the run in before, Jesus ! They need to get to 50...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20375

Re: Blackburn......

The Venky's have several other choices. One, they could have cut wages sufficiently that the club wasn't running at a loss any more. Two, they could decide to cut their losses and let the club go into administration. Three, they can deliberately follow the policy they have been following of subsidi...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 107
Views: 9318

Re: On this day

BacupClaret wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:47 am
Are you forgetting Paul Barnes? 5 against Stockport?


Aye, good shout BacupClaret.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 107
Views: 9318

Re: On this day

5/2/1921, Burnley 7 Aston Villa 1. Champions that season. Another top class side to represent Burnley, several names there that also won the FA Cup just before WW1. On this occasion the goals were not spread around, with centre-forward Joe Anderson scoring 5 times. Anderson just one of four Burnley...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 107
Views: 9318

Re: On this day

bfc8 wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:18 am
3/2/1962, Burnley 7 Birmingham 1.
And a rare goal from captain Jimmy Adamson.......six different scorers, how often has that happened in our history?

What a team that was, literally at it's very peak.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Clarets suffer another defeat at City
Replies: 8
Views: 666

Re: REPORT: Clarets suffer another defeat at City

Sums what up? Were you expecting a win against the best team in club football? Are you expecting Turf Moor to be on a par with the Etihad? CT - I have to say the every opportunity for a dig approach directed at the club is a little tiring. We are all disappointed with how this season has gone, but ...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:01 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RIP Satch
Replies: 7
Views: 1862

Re: RIP Satch

A true Padihamer, for sure.....Very few people in the area didn't know Satch.

RIP John.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: PREVIEW: Etihad beckons for Burnley
Replies: 25
Views: 1439

Re: PREVIEW: Etihad beckons for Burnley

Fair play, each to their own.

We're 0-2 down at half-time on a typical Lancashire night, by the way.....Million miles from Florida.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: PREVIEW: Etihad beckons for Burnley
Replies: 25
Views: 1439

Re: PREVIEW: Etihad beckons for Burnley

FCBurnley wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:29 pm
UK emigration figures for Y/E June 2023 are in excess of half a million !! Enough said UTC
But how many of those were serious Burnley fans ?......Come on FCBurnley, tell us how difficult it was to decide never to visit the Turf again ?......Again no disrespect.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: PREVIEW: Etihad beckons for Burnley
Replies: 25
Views: 1439

Re: PREVIEW: Etihad beckons for Burnley

Sorry FCBurnley, and with the greatest of respect, leaving our football club seaped in such history, is one that few of us would even contemplate.......especially for America.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: PREVIEW: Etihad beckons for Burnley
Replies: 25
Views: 1439

Re: PREVIEW: Etihad beckons for Burnley

FCBurnley wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:10 pm
?
Is it really that questionabble?......Leaving our football club for the wonderful bright lights of USA.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: PREVIEW: Etihad beckons for Burnley
Replies: 25
Views: 1439

Re: PREVIEW: Etihad beckons for Burnley

I would not trade all the defeats for our wins in 59/0 and 1973 Charity Shield. Obviously the 59/60 win was massive and the 73 win was pretty special. Also the 5-2 win in City’s relegation season was most enjoyable. I was at all 3 of those games and no Defeat however large can take them away. But n...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Aston Villa August 1972
Replies: 32
Views: 1498

Re: Burnley v Aston Villa August 1972

"Thrashed them" is the perfect description........6-0 would have been more than realistic.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 107
Views: 9318

Re: On this day

Not sure what time (or day?) the horses left Central Motors at Whitegate......sjb will need to confirm.