We aren’t playing even remotely a similar system to last season though, I wish we were! One full back in midfield, one high and wide. High pressing. It’s all gone completelyBin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:11 pmWe aren't playing any different to last season, it's just that the quality of teams we're facing is higher.
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- Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:04 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The most disappointing thing for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 3080
Re: The most disappointing thing for me
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Amdouni
- Replies: 142
- Views: 7730
Re: Amdouni
I’ve no doubt all our players are technically good with the ball at their feet. Unfortunately you need more than that in a team like Burnley. I don’t disagree with you but if the structure of the side was better he could flourish. I’d love to see his distance covered stats, I feel like this lazy na...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Available Managers...
- Replies: 112
- Views: 5483
Re: Available Managers...
There’s no such formula, there’s only one way to find outCoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:28 pm101*
Do you honestly reckon there'll be a repeat of that? No hangover? If yes then stick with him. I'm not so certain
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Available Managers...
- Replies: 112
- Views: 5483
Re: Available Managers...
We’ve had nothing but upheaval every window, the club is desperate for stability.
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Available Managers...
- Replies: 112
- Views: 5483
Re: Available Managers...
Major upheaval before an important Championship season where we will be favourites for the title just sounds incredibly stupid.
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Available Managers...
- Replies: 112
- Views: 5483
Re: Available Managers...
Doesn't work like that. This season's VK is not the same as last season's VK, and this season's Burnley is not the same as last season's Burnley. What's important is that we're currently insipid, with nothing to suggest we'll turn this around and lots to suggest we'll get worse. It sounds ludicrous...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Available Managers...
- Replies: 112
- Views: 5483
Re: Available Managers...
You're right - he finished first then lost the playoff or whatever the hell they do. Again, as I said - left field (but half makes sense with our owners) Nancy would be a better fit, possession based style, 4 at the back. Had to replace their best player mid season in Zelaryan. I don’t want a 5 at ...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Available Managers...
- Replies: 112
- Views: 5483
Re: Available Managers...
Pat Noonan did not win the MLS either, Wilfred Nancy did with Columbus Crew
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Available Managers...
- Replies: 112
- Views: 5483
Re: Available Managers...
I like Rosenior Carrick Robins and McKenna too but better than VK? I don’t see how
VK has never lost to any of those managers in 8 games. 6 wins and 2 draws.
VK has never lost to any of those managers in 8 games. 6 wins and 2 draws.
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Amdouni
- Replies: 142
- Views: 7730
Re: Amdouni
I don’t know what some fans watch, I think he’s technically brilliant and see a real player in him. Some of the dribbling and turns are outrageous bits of skill, the structure of the team is just terrible. The sides so bad it’s easy to scapegoat the player who runs around like a headless chicken the...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The most disappointing thing for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 3080
Re: The most disappointing thing for me
I wouldn’t declare myself a tactical expert but we are playing nothing like the formations last season. In most games I couldn’t even work out what formation we were playing. Nothing but 4 4 2 this season. Exactly which is the most disappointing thing for me, I’d rather we actually did go down play...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The most disappointing thing for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 3080
Re: The most disappointing thing for me
We even went to the Etihad last season and high pressed the life out of them, City fans were booing because their keeper was holding the ball until we forced him to boot it long. Fair enough we got pasted 6-0 in the end but I think most BFC fans were encouraged by our bravery and performance in the ...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The most disappointing thing for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 3080
Re: The most disappointing thing for me
No - he tried it at the beginning of the Season, Cullen was filling in at fullback but our Keeper and also the centre half he signed couldn't play the short stuff at any sort of speed and we just got pressed to death. Then he changed. At Spurs we saw a throwback to last season with Cullen splitting...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The most disappointing thing for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 3080
Re: The most disappointing thing for me
I’m still VK in, I believe he will learn from this season and put it right with time.
We should have stuck to our in depth VK system, 4231 inverted full back, high press possession and overloading the wide areas.
We didn’t recruit to play that way either.
We should have stuck to our in depth VK system, 4231 inverted full back, high press possession and overloading the wide areas.
We didn’t recruit to play that way either.
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The most disappointing thing for me
- Replies: 42
- Views: 3080
The most disappointing thing for me
I’ve said it many times but the most disappointing thing is we got promoted with an inverted fullback (Roberts), a high and wide full back (Maatsen), Cullen the deepest man at times collecting off the goalkeeper and filling in for the high full back. Inverted wingers, Gudmundsson not used wide but c...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 17971
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Good grief, why has he taken Taylor off? Great impact by vitinho, this would allbe hilarious if it wasn't our beloved team Shows how players like Taylor can do no wrong on here, he was absolutely awful today and getting destroyed. 0 tackles won, 0 blocked crosses, possession lost 18 times, possessi...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 17971
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
What I don’t like about this club though, and this messageboard, is the singling out of 18, 19, 20, 21 year old players. We should be better than that as supporters. Players like Odobert will have quiet games at his age. He is a talent. Just supporters scapegoating players, it’s always been the sam...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 17971
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Everything you've said when people have wrote the same time and time again, it's taken longer to sink in for you but your finally seeing what everybody has been seeing for months. Now here you are having a pop You’re acting like Iv thought we were good this season, no BFC fan is happy with how this...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 17971
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
The majority of the season has been absolute crap, mistakes made in the summer window. We’re complete shite atm and lack a style of play badly. I still back VK long term but I question some of these decisions
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 17971
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 17971
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
There is zero style of play at all, zero patterns of play, just nothing
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 17971
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Absolutely dreadful, unacceptable performance. The team can’t even pass the ball forward with any kind of quality. A team with no confidence at all. I wish they could just relegate us already so we don’t have to suffer for the remaining games, just put us out of our misery and let’s get this squad s...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 17971
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
At least Brownhill thinks it’s funny
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 17971
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Brownhill get your fookin foot on the ball and pass it forward ffs
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 17971
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Just awful so far
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 17971
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Taylor absolutely all over the place atm, can’t stop a cross
- Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Rob Edwards what a classy manager!
- Replies: 53
- Views: 3585
Re: Rob Edwards what a classy manager!
Two big lads upfront and hit it in the box high at every opportunity. We sat back and allowed them to have the ball and they were clueless and toothless.
- Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Rob Edwards what a classy manager!
- Replies: 53
- Views: 3585
Re: Rob Edwards what a classy manager!
You're a strange bloke; always resort to exaggerated statements and extreme positions, which might be intended to challenge others' opinions but really just makes you look childish. Yes they were a considerable amount of points behind us last season and yet this year have considerably bridged that ...
- Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Rob Edwards what a classy manager!
- Replies: 53
- Views: 3585
Re: Rob Edwards what a classy manager!
Luton and Edwards are so good but we are so rubbish, yet we’ve taken 4 points off them and they needed a last minute rugby punt and foul to nick a goal.
Luton so good, I can’t remember the last time we lost to them.
Luton so good, I can’t remember the last time we lost to them.
- Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Rob Edwards what a classy manager!
- Replies: 53
- Views: 3585
Re: Rob Edwards what a classy manager!
Why do we have Luton fans posting on here? Where were you lot last season when you were 50 points behind Burnley? They’re nothing we haven’t seen before, just another crap tiny club scraping a few results here and there playing turd lower league football. No different to Blackpool. When they get rel...
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
- Replies: 120
- Views: 5936
Re: Aaron Ramsey injury
Also while we’re on a Ramsey thread how did Westleigh avoid a ban for his comment….
He said “Ramsey down rolling around like he’s been shot”, yes he said that about one of his supposed own players who was helped off on a stretcher and is out for the season
He said “Ramsey down rolling around like he’s been shot”, yes he said that about one of his supposed own players who was helped off on a stretcher and is out for the season
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
- Replies: 120
- Views: 5936
Re: Aaron Ramsey injury
How is it a VK thing when Dyche did the exact same thing towards the end…. Use your brain
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
- Replies: 120
- Views: 5936
Re: Aaron Ramsey injury
If you don’t think it’s data protection then what do you think it is? And in terms of semi pro contracts, I wouldn’t expect them to stipulate anything with regards to clubs disclosing player injuries because players are protected by GDPR. I agree with Big Vinny, if it was data protection then why a...
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
- Replies: 120
- Views: 5936
Re: Aaron Ramsey injury
If we were holding our own, hardly anyone would be taking issue with this. VK can't even open his gob without people jumping down his throat. It's now got to the stage where some people are deeply embarrassing themselves on a daily basis. Wishing Ramsey all the best and a speedy recovery. It starte...
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Benson
- Replies: 53
- Views: 4608
Re: Benson
What I do not understand is if Benson is not the level required why the hell did we extend his contract in the summer… makes no sense. Do you really need an answer for that? Benson got a pay rise we tied down a key player from last season helps us get a higher fee. The same reason Cullen signed an ...
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:57 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Liverpool/Luton
- Replies: 72
- Views: 4104
Re: Liverpool/Luton
So called Burnley fans desperate for Luton to win so you can use it to hammer your own side…..
We gave a much stronger Liverpool side a far better game at Anfield
We gave a much stronger Liverpool side a far better game at Anfield
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Liverpool/Luton
- Replies: 72
- Views: 4104
Re: Liverpool/Luton
Another dagger to the hearts of the Luton fans on here
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3414
Re: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
We bought Cornet, Collins and Weghorst and Connor Roberts…..for about £40m yes. But we sold Wood, Gibson, and Josh Benson for around £35m. Chris Wood had had probably his worst 6 months in a claret shirt before we sold him but I doubt Dyche wanted to sell him….at that price given his age though it ...
- Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:38 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3414
Re: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
I have no idea if SD spent the money, but even at the time they seemed very unlike Dyche type signings and the changed dynamic of the team atmosphere, and the way he employed them in games suggests not to me. That’s just deflecting blame elsewhere though, shame VK isn’t given the same pass. VK sign...
- Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3414
Re: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
Interesting - did not remember HOW bad that season had been. Just had a look at the result and there were a few draws in there which ameliorated the feel. What date SD get potted out of interest? Already answered below, that season was rotten, just as bad as this one imo. The performances in the Br...
- Tue Feb 20, 2024 4:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Time to hear from Chairman Pace
- Replies: 36
- Views: 4134
Re: Time to hear from Chairman Pace
But what do you want him to say? What are the rumours and theories?
I thought Pace remaining quiet after relegation was strange but I don’t see what you want him to clear up?
- Tue Feb 20, 2024 4:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3414
Re: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
Quite agree. Whoever was to blame the breakdown of his relationship with Garlick had killed a lot of that unity. Although he looked set to be reinvented with the new owners, it never really felt like the love and unity was still there. I hoped it would return but was neither shocked nor devastated ...
- Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The £100 million
- Replies: 89
- Views: 3984
Re: The £100 million
Sorry forgot you'd transformed to Mr.Brightside, no anti BFC talk there it's two facts about both players. Both are going to be good players but how I've described there performances are correct. Maybe in 12 months I'll be the next number 1 fan like you are this season, you've shown the way your a ...
- Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The £100 million
- Replies: 89
- Views: 3984
Re: The £100 million
In what sense have they been a success? Odabert wouldn't go for anymore than we paid, he's shown glimpses but been largely ineffective in games he needs lots more experience before his value goes up. Koleosho was starting to play better and was always a threat but his end product needs some serious...
- Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The £100 million
- Replies: 89
- Views: 3984
Re: The £100 million
Talking about “what if Dyche had been given £100m” is just stupid talk for Football manager enthusiasts.
The wage bill under Dyche was around £90m a year. What is it now? £30m?
You can spend more when the wage bill is lower, I thought that would be pretty obvious
The wage bill under Dyche was around £90m a year. What is it now? £30m?
You can spend more when the wage bill is lower, I thought that would be pretty obvious
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: VK OUT !!
- Replies: 347
- Views: 14927
Re: VK OUT !!
Last season is irrelevant. Regardless he’s ripped that up all by himself, spunked an absolute fortune and returned one of the most pathetic campaigns in premier league history. This seasons failure is an absolute disgrace, we haven’t even been remotely not looking likely competitive. If our perform...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: VK OUT !!
- Replies: 347
- Views: 14927
Re: VK OUT !!
Vincent has humiliated all those who have defended him for the last few months. What’s surprising are those who still defend this waste of space. From 101 points and winning the title at Ewood to comments like this because we’re shite and struggling in the league above. Where’s the willing him to f...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: VK OUT !!
- Replies: 347
- Views: 14927
Re: VK OUT !!
This and your other posts say all we need to know about you as a fan. You dont rate Dyche or McKenna- 2 managers who have made teams better than the sum of their individual parts and have over achieved with what they've had available. McKenna is doing a job just as good as Kompany did last year whe...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: VK OUT !!
- Replies: 347
- Views: 14927
Re: VK OUT !!
Sorry KR but you're honestly losing your mind at times on here. Last season we overperformed against what I expected. This season we've underperformed, and it's really strange to me that some people can't admit that. Neither you nor ANYBODY would have predicted such poor performance but suddenly it...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: VK OUT !!
- Replies: 347
- Views: 14927
Re: VK OUT !!
Expectation to not get battered every week whilst ostracising most of the team that got promoted in the first place. More anti BFC over the top nonsense. Who is battering us every week? Since that Brentford away pathetic performance we’ve generally competed in games. So who is battering us? We’ve l...