You can only have 11 players on the pitch

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You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:45 pm

Amazing how many people forget this when they go on about squad size etc, we could bring in 3-4 players and yet the quality of the team on the pitch could change little.
Most players take time to settle and integrate into a framework such as ours, perhaps only a goalie or striker might find that relatively easy.
The players we have now are the players who will get us through, we have just about enough depth in the squad although a striker and a player like Brady might of course come in handy if things went really awry.
The only real advantage of getting players in now is getting them ready for our next campaign, but buying just to swell our ranks well that would be foolhardy.

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by ClaretAndJew » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:48 pm

Aren't you someone who goes on about squad size?
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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:50 pm

Yes the smaller the squad the better 22 is quite sufficient at this level preferably 20, if you buy you might have to sell. SD doesn't need or use a big squad.
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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:53 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Aren't you someone who goes on about squad size?
depends what the thread is about, sometimes he says size doesn't matter :D :D

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:55 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Yes the smaller the squad the better 22 is quite sufficient at this level preferably 20, if you buy you might have to sell. SD doesn't need or use a big squad.
That's total rubbish. We could actually have a 28 man squad if we wanted, and what harm could it do?

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:05 pm

10 of those players would be rusting.

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by Diesel » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:10 pm

The (correct) use of subs. is massive these days, It's no coincidence that Sean has got better at it the more options he has to work with (obviously).

I think this is where your bigger squad comes in to it. Has there not been one or more occasion this season where Hull haven't been able to name a full bench?

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by FactualFrank » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:10 pm

ablueclaret wrote:The only real advantage of getting players in now is getting them ready for our next campaign, but buying just to swell our ranks well that would be foolhardy.
No, the real advantage of bringing in players now is to improve the starting 11 and improve our chances of staying up. Players such as Brady would be good enough to go straight into the first team - nothing to do with squad sizes or swelling ranks.

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:12 pm

But would they be effective immediately I have my doubts.

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:13 pm

ablueclaret wrote:10 of those players would be rusting.
Shouldn't be, though, should they?

Incidentally, if your idea of a small squad is such a good one can you name a club who don't choose to fill all 25 (+youngsters) places?

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by Diesel » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:15 pm

ablueclaret wrote:But would they be effective immediately I have my doubts.
Not like you to have 'doubts'...

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:23 pm

I have my doubts as to whether Tarka will ever be used in a midfield role.

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by Diesel » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:30 pm

Wasted there ablue, he is a genuine two footed, cool as a cucumber center half, with a massive future ahead of him.

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by DCWat » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:32 pm

Weren't you saying on another thread that an injury to "Tarka" and we have almost a full team out, or something alImg those lines?

With Marney's injury we need a central midfielder (we needed one before that) and we certainly need a wide player of better quality.

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by ablueclaret » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:37 pm

Remember where we are without playing our best side. Losing Tarka to injury would be a big blow because potentially he is the one important utility player we have got although Flanagan is pretty adaptable.
Wouldn't worry me in the slightest if we don't sign anyone although for me a striker is the most urgent.

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by Royboyclaret » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:37 pm

Who's this 'Tarka'?

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by Sidney1st » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:40 pm

Doesn't want us to buy from Europe, wants us to target the relegation battlers in the championship, wants a smaller squad plus wants people to think more when they go on about squad size, doesn't want to buy more experienced players, wants us to buy more youngsters from the lower leagues, wants the club to put more effort into improving the youth system.
Wants a defender to play in midfield and doesn't really rate Marney as anything more then a squad player.

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by Sidney1st » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:41 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Remember where we are without playing our best side. Losing Tarka to injury would be a big blow because potentially he is the one important utility player we have got although Flanagan is pretty adaptable.
Wouldn't worry me in the slightest if we don't sign anyone although for me a striker is the most urgent.
Name our best side then, we could do with a chuckle, but don't forget to explain why you'd choose your team.
You've also stated that Aygei should be our 4th choice the other day.
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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by RocketLawnChair » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:42 pm

So to summarise, you want to keep the squad size small and supplement it with players from the Championship relegation zone.. You my friend are a Grade A weapon of mass distinction.
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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:51 pm

Clubs with no money in the lower reaches of the League have small squads. Those who can afford to choose, at the very top end, choose to have massive squads. That tells me that a larger squad is better than a smaller one.

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by ontario claret » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:35 pm

It's not the meat, it's the motion.

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:02 am

Dirty Ontario!
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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by 1fatclaret » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:33 am

Sidney1st wrote:Doesn't want us to buy from Europe, wants us to target the relegation battlers in the championship, wants a smaller squad plus wants people to think more when they go on about squad size, doesn't want to buy more experienced players, wants us to buy more youngsters from the lower leagues, wants the club to put more effort into improving the youth system.
Wants a defender to play in midfield and doesn't really rate Marney as anything more then a squad player.

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:50 am

Royboyclaret wrote:Who's this 'Tarka'?
He's a hell of a prospect. Related to Ottermendi at City apparently.

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by rejected » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:58 am

We'd still lose most games if we were allowed to start with 14.

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Re: You can only have 11 players on the pitch

Post by ontario claret » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:21 pm

How's your Expert 11 team coming, Charlie? I'm still undefeated!

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