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Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:43 pm

but you said Westwood was rubbish

Superb today

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:44 pm

Everything we need, a missing jigsaw piece. Breaks up play and gives it 'simple'. No frills, no messing, a poor man's Carrick.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:01 pm

yep, was a very impressive full debut

boiledclaret · Post by **boiledclaret** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:04 pm

a poor man's Carrick.

Nah, he can probably take penalties.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:06 pm

Oh dear...
some people seem super sensitive about certain players.

He was anything but superb.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:55 pm

Westwood was immense today, he looked like he had been playing for us all season

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:09 pm

He was fantastic. Aside from one awful pass accross his own goal. Ben Mee had a moment too.

Tuddybfc · Post by **Tuddybfc** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:22 pm

Westwood was very good, the negativity he's taken from the villa fans looks far fetched based on today, calm on the ball but unlike Jones Westwood appears to be able to dribble, pass forward and head. Similar player but a huge upgrade

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:48 pm

Lowton isn't bad either

I think we all know better than to judge a player based on the opinions of other fans. There are too many variables to consider and if Dyche wants the player in, it's for a reason.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:49 pm

Except for that simple pass that nearly put us behind...

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:23 pm

MACCA wrote:Except for that simple pass that nearly put us behind...

Unlike Keane who failed to pick up Pedro for their goal.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:08 am

No Ney Never wrote:Unlike Keane who failed to pick up Pedro for their goal.

Wrong thread pal, this is about Westwood not Keane.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:52 am

And in the defence of Keane, the slight deflection off Mee from Moses pass made it the perfect ball for Pedro.

And I had a quick check of a Villa forum after the way Westwood played, some comments on there made the Lincoln forum look sane.

Jeremy_Bentham · Post by **Jeremy_Bentham** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:01 am

. thinks that pass in the second half was quite pathetic.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:18 am

No Ney Never wrote:Unlike Keane who failed to pick up Pedro for their goal.

If you watch again it was Westwood who was caught in no man land ball watching which allowed Pedro through. Keane had 2 players to mark and was left exposed by Westwood.

Just saying.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:20 am

How have Villa got on since he left? Played 3 lost 3... maybe he wasn't the problem after all!

Superb yesterday. He quietly got on with his job and made some good interceptions. His passing wasn't flashy, but very productive in relation to us keeping the ball (Jones-esque you could say). I think he's a very good addition to the squad.

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:41 am

Do many Villa fans read this forum?

Corky · Post by **Corky** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:03 am

Probably not, but I am always mistaken for one - normally by West Ham fans - when they squint at the badge on my bobble hat which I tend to wear when walking the dogs.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:04 am

Right_winger wrote:If you watch again it was Westwood who was caught in no man land ball watching which allowed Pedro through. Keane had 2 players to mark and was left exposed by Westwood.

Just saying.

And Brady completely misses a tackle on Moses, as well as the deflection off Mee and Keane possibly not marking closely enough. It was also a great flowing move by Chelsea. Can't really pin it all the blame on one Claret player.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:08 am

He looked neat and tidy on his home debut. One pass went astray when it was intercepted, but he got back and 'took one for the Team' and atoned for his gaff. I'm glad he's here. He can play in the FA Cup game next week too. Very handy since our recent midfield mini-crisis.

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:55 pm

TheOriginalLongsider wrote:Do many Villa fans read this forum?

No. They are all on the Birmingham and Newcastle websites trolling.

I have never worked out how it is that the average Baggie seems to be thoroughly decent when Villa is only a few miles away. They must have some sort of Birmingham sorting hat which brands them at birth.

Barry (pronounced barr-eye-ee) Potter puts on the sorting hat:- "Not Villa, Not Villa you say?.................."

mrhungryone · Post by **mrhungryone** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:28 pm

Oh dear did barnsley sell em a pup? Losing 1...3

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:48 pm

timshorts wrote:... I have never worked out how it is that the average Baggie seems to be thoroughly decent when Villa is only a few miles away ....

All seems really mixed around Brum. Each of the different towns/districts of the city and suburbs seem to have a focus on 1 of the 3 clubs with no pattern discernible.

And anyone from the Black Country would be aghast at being lumped in with Brummies.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:20 am

Maybe want to ask Lincoln fan fans what hey thought about him, since he obviously bossed a non league team...

Oh hang on

Cooperclaret · Post by **Cooperclaret** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:22 am

Westwoods turn now then

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:22 am

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and give Westwood more than two games before I decide to write him off.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:24 am

Right_winger wrote:Maybe want to ask Lincoln fan fans what hey thought about him, since he obviously bossed a non league team...

Oh hang on

Thick as ****

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:25 am

I'm going to pretend he didn't play well last week because he was poor yesterday.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:30 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here, and give Westwood more than two games before I decide to write him off.

You should know better then to do that on here..

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:30 am

He didn't play well last week either. People are trying to make an excuse for him because Dyche paid top whack for a **** water carrier. Can you imagine if Laws signed this player!

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:35 am

We didn't pay top whack for him did we?
Wasn't it £5million?

Hardly top whack and we needed a water carrier....

Laws signed Marney, another player who could be considered a water carrier in many ways, so I'm not sure what your point is.

HB Claret · Post by **HB Claret** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:40 am

Some people have short memories - Hendrick was being written off on this forum almost from the start and yet apart from the Red mist at Watford most people now rave about him. Need to give Westwood a few weeks to fit into the"framework".

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:40 am

You think £5m is a bargain for a slightly better version of Jones? Especially when you consider he wasnt wanted/needed by Villa, or any other team for that matter.

Marney was/is a lot more dynamic and actually carries the ball forward, he also gets stuck into challenges. Those are 2 things water carrier type players don't/can't do.

Cooperclaret · Post by **Cooperclaret** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:43 am

That's the problem with being a successful team - it brings out part time belm tards

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:46 am

Right_winger wrote:You think £5m is a bargain for a slightly better version of Jones? Especially when you consider he wasnt wanted/needed by Villa, or any other team for that matter.

Marney was/is a lot more dynamic and actually carries the ball forward, he also gets stuck into challenges. Those are 2 things water carrier type players don't/can't do.

Yes £5 million is a bargain for a player who'd made 120 PL appearances in 4 years for Villa and started 20 this season for them.

Look at Villa since he left, you do know they've been worse since selling him don't you?
Or don't you take an interest in that sort of thing?

What's your issue with water carriers?

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joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:49 am

Sidney1st wrote:Yes £5 million is a bargain for a player who'd made 120 PL appearances in 4 years for Villa and started 20 this season for them.

Look at Villa since he left, you do know they've been worse since selling him don't you?
Or don't you take an interest in that sort of thing?

What's your issue with water carriers?

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He wasn't in the starting 11 before he was sold

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:49 am

So are Villa fans "belm tards" aswell?

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:51 am

£5m should never be considered a bargain in the context of our club, but him judging Westwood after two appearances is just idiotic

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:55 am

joey13 wrote:He wasn't in the starting 11 before he was sold

Still managed 23 appearances before he was sold though.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:56 am

Right_winger wrote:So are Villa fans "belm tards" aswell?

After watching them whine and bitch about owners and managers since Doug Ellis was in charge then yes I think we can safely assume they're belmtards

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:57 am

Right_winger wrote:He didn't play well last week either. People are trying to make an excuse for him because Dyche paid top whack for a **** water carrier. Can you imagine if Laws signed this player!

I understand yesterday's performance as a whole was poor but let's not just make things up.
He played very well against a very good side last week.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:58 am

Sidney1st wrote:Still managed 23 appearances before he was sold though.

I'll go with supporters who have watched him week in week out , sideways and backwards is what he is .

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:59 am

Sidney1st wrote:Yes £5 million is a bargain for a player who'd made 120 PL appearances in 4 years for Villa and started 20 this season for them.

Look at Villa since he left, you do know they've been worse since selling him don't you?
Or don't you take an interest in that sort of thing?

What's your issue with water carriers?

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I wouldn't say villas decline in form is related to westwood not being there could be any number of factors. Lets not be kidding ourselves westwoods no messi. Still far too embryonic to really judge his merits granted we will know more at the end of the season.

Cooperclaret · Post by **Cooperclaret** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:01 am

With all due respect Joey13 I think I will "go with" Mr Dyche re Westwood

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:01 am

joey13 wrote:I'll go with supporters who have watched him week in week out , sideways and backwards is what he is .

Nothing wrong with having one of those types of players.
Jones was effective for us being that sort of player, we've got a younger version of him now.
Some clubs need that sort of player and so long as his backwards or sideways passes are to the right player, I'm happy with that.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:01 am

Whilst not overly impressive after 2 games far too early to tell. New system and new CM partner to get used to. Hendrick didn't look to great to start with but before the sending off was looking really good.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:03 am

Jakubclaret wrote:I wouldn't say villas decline in form is related to westwood not being there could be any number of factors. Lets not be kidding ourselves westwoods no messi. Still far too embryonic to really judge his merits granted we will know more at the end of the season.

I don't want Westwood to be Messi though, we have Boyd for that

I want Westwood to be a lesser version of Dunga or Makalele, but better then Jones, that's all.

Someone whinging about us signing a water carrier doesn't really understand what they bring to a team.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:03 am

Sidney1st wrote:Nothing wrong with having one of those types of players.
Jones was effective for us being that sort of player, we've got a younger version of him now.
Some clubs need that sort of player and so long as his backwards or sideways passes are to the right player, I'm happy with that.

Didn't say it was a problem, he is what he is .

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:04 am

Sidney1st wrote:After watching them whine and bitch about owners and managers since Doug Ellis was in charge then yes I think we can safely assume they're belmtards

Yeah ok. They are all wrong eh. You'd think after 4 years at a club he would have been appreciated... yet he was vilified. You don't perhaps think there is a reason?

Do you think we have a good deal at £5m for a "limited" player.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:07 am

Right_winger wrote:

Yeah ok. They are all wrong eh. You'd think after 4 years at a club he would have been appreciated... yet he was vilified. You don't perhaps think there is a reason?

Do you think we have a good deal at £5m for a "limited" player.

Jones wasn't appreciated by plenty of people during or after his time here if that helps for comparisons sake?
Did you rate Jones?

I haven't seen enough of Westwood to know if what we've paid is good or bad yet, neither have you in that respect, or aren't I allowed to point that out?

You want to write him off now though for some bizarre reason.