Trump!... getting stuff done

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:53 am

Not a great fan of the orange skinned POTUS
But he's certainly proving even the most 'organic' coffee loving leftie wrong when it comes to serving up world peace.
Isreal and Palestine on the brink of a truce now.
Would not of got anywhere near that under obama

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:18 am

Didn't they already have a truce?

Unfortunately he has also increased the terrorist threat from Yemen sending an 'intelligence gathering' raid that ended up losing a special forces soldier, killing 10 children and an important US/Saudi friendly tribal leader. Successful mission according to his press secretary.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:28 am

The man is a complete lunatic. No two ways about it.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:45 am

Lunatics v Diplomacy....Diplomacy losing..

Lunatics v Lunatic...???

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:38 am

dermotdermot wrote:The man is a complete lunatic. No two ways about it.

So was Winston Churchill and look how that ended.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:41 am

Don't for one second think or pretend under Obama things were all rosy in the garden.
whether you like him or loathe him he's not hanging around and not afraid to make decisions.
Most people never really bothered about Trump until he decided to run for presidency, then all of a sudden the smear campaign starts and everyone is on their high horse.

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:11 am

Err Ok but that bonkers press conference yesterday was surely evidence of paranoid megalomania and I'm not too keen on the stuff paranoid megalomaniacs get done as a rule.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:41 am

I see his latest choice for National Security Adviser has turned him down after having to sack his other one.

Not quite getting this important issue done is he.

Siddo · Post by **Siddo** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:43 am

[quote="Damo"]
Would not of got /quote]

How is he doing on literacy and education?

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:07 am

B.. But he has small hands!

mikeS · Post by **mikeS** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:11 am

Amazing Trump news conference yesterday. Can't wait for Saturday Night Live.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:36 am

Terrifying.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:38 am

What has he actually done?

Saying he wants a one state solution, then getting contradicted by the US ambassador?

He hasn't just waved a magic wand and fixed everything.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:42 am

Siddo wrote:

Well, he's appointed a women that doesn't like public schools - wants to privatize education. Let's see how that works out for inner cities.

And he does like single syllable words like "wrong" and "uuuge." He does have a three syllable word in his repertoire but he thinks there are three words - tree.... men..... does

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:55 am

Damo wrote:Not a great fan of the orange skinned POTUS
But he's certainly proving even the most 'organic' coffee loving leftie wrong when it comes to serving up world peace.
Isreal and Palestine on the brink of a truce now.
Would not of got anywhere near that under obama

Is it the coffee that's "organic" or the coffee-loving leftie ?
What happens if you don't like coffee and you're a leftie ?
What about being a leftie but only liking non-organic coffee ?
How about not being a leftie, liking organic coffee but thinking Trump is moronic ?

A stupid,desperate OP - ill-thought out and lazy.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:57 am

What even is all this left and right stuff, I mean REALLY. I mean, I know the theory about it, but is it just people who love people vs people who want everyone who doesn't fit into the jigsaw of society murdered en mass?

Really though? We're all left and right.

In fact, I am massively left, but I want all of my views forced on people in a right wing way.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:12 am

He won't sort out the middle east, Blair has spent years as the middle east peace envoy and got the square root of naff all done......although that's probably more to do with his lack of interest in sorting it.

They all hate Israel and Israel hates them.
Israel seems to do what it wants and doesn't listen to anyone else, probably because they know the US is behind them most of the time.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:25 am

So the truce that was already there is now because of him?

Yeah right

That press conference yesterday was ace, but only if you thought it was a Saturday Night Live parody.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:19 am

Also Lancaster I thought the interview on Newsnight could have come from an interview with any country run by a despot. Thus far I have been ambivalent about Trump but the interview with Seb. Gorka and Evan Davis on Newsnight plus the way Trump answered Jon Sopel really pushed me to the opinion that this administration will be an absolute nightmare. The idea from Trump that the blocking of his migrant ban was simply because the Courts got it wrong shows what a complete plonker he is.His attacks on the media from the Oval office look unprecedented.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:24 am

He's effectively decided to bypass the media because he wants people to report what he wants them to hear.

All he needs though is about 52% of people to listen to him, and the other 48% can go and get stuffed.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:29 am

Or 46% of the people who bothered to vote. As long as those 46% live in the right parts of the U.S.

Democracy, eh. Super stuff.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:31 am

There was an interesting report somewhere (I'll try to find it) that the actual belief in democracy is fading in the West.

Trump could just be the beginning.

Manceau · Post by **Manceau** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:38 am

Excellent article by Robert Fisk about how deranged and incomprehensible the current Republican administration's views on the Middle East really are:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/don ... 83101.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:56 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:So was Winston Churchill and look how that ended.

Churchill was a lunatic???

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:07 am

Siddo wrote:

I don't know, if your looking for help on how to use basic message board features though, there are probably classes in your local primary school

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:18 am

Seems weird that he's doing so well that he can't find anyone to serve as National security advisor who hasn't broken US laws

grapidianclaret · Post by **grapidianclaret** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:29 am

No, Trump is responsible for everything good that has happened since his inauguration.
Middle east Truce-Trump
Sun coming up in the morning-Trump
Burnleys good run this year-Trump
Commons Brexit vote-Trump
Anyone who does not believe this is dishonest,just ask Trump and the OP.

Siddo · Post by **Siddo** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:30 am

Damo wrote:I don't know, if your looking for help on how to use basic message board features though, there are probably classes in your local primary school

Thanks but I'm not. However, the same applies to you regarding basic English.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:08 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Churchill was a lunatic???

A great leader but at times s nutty as a fruitcake. He used to hold meetings from the bath. Was prone to bouts of Manic depression. Appearently liked corn flakes for breakfast, but preferred to cover them with whisky rather than milk. As a young man had it seemed a death wish (or bravery to the point of idiocy) in the Sudan and most of the plans he personally drew up or championed led to disaster. In balance he could also be brilliant inventing thee Tank, Seeing what Stalin was about twenty years before anyone else and came up with some of the best put downs in history.

All in all an amazing character.

I still reserve judgement on Trump... he seems bananas at times but maybe just what is needed in this world of falsehoods and double dealings. Will go at it like a bull in a china shop and shake things up for sure. The media are looking for everything they can to undermine him, but he is now more popular than ever with middle America despite everything that is going on.

As the old Chinese curse goes - may you live in interesting times.

Claretfoot · Post by **Claretfoot** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:24 pm

I think the word we English use to describe Churchill is eccentric. His leadership during WW2 puts him up there with the iconic and great world leaders. However, he was one of the leading proponents of the disastrous Gallipoli campaign in WW1, and in the 1920's was responsible for returning the pound to Gold standard at a level that created economic chaos - he made some mistakes!

But by anybody's standards, he was an intellectual and effective world leader at a time when nationalistic and simple populist policies had led the world to near oblivion.

Trump is at the start of his time as a world leader. I just can't see history being written about him in the same way as Churchill.

S0S-1971 · Post by **S0S-1971** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:44 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:B.. But he has small hands!

Fake Hands ?

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:11 pm

Siddo wrote:Thanks but I'm not. However, the same applies to you regarding basic English.

Hmm. Maybe you should seek advice on how you place punctuation while you're there

Siddo wrote:Didier Dechamps , the water carrier , Westwood was outstanding today. He will do the simple things efficiently, which at premer league level isn't easy.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:13 pm

Claretfoot wrote:Trump is at the start of his time as a world leader. I just can't see history being written about him in the same way as Churchill.

Hitler or Stalin, perhaps?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:21 pm

JohnMcGreal wrote:Hitler or Stalin, perhaps?

I suppose that will depend on how many he sends to the sort of camps those two liked to us.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:51 pm

this sums it up better than anything anyone will ever tell you

http://news.sky.com/video/really-mr-pre ... p-10770976

Siddo · Post by **Siddo** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:08 pm

Damo wrote:Hmm. Maybe you should seek advice on how you place punctuation while you're there

Thank you for your desperate hunt to find a comma in the wrong place.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:15 pm

What's he actually done then?
And how's he done whatever he's apparently done?

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:57 pm

Siddo wrote:Thank you for your desperate hunt to find a comma in the wrong place.

Counting lessons may also come in handy

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:47 pm

Damo wrote:Counting lessons may also come in handy

WTFF?????

pick up the f****** handbag mate.

Siddo · Post by **Siddo** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:50 pm

Damo wrote:Counting lessons may also come in handy

Hey up Damo. I was only having a bit of fun. I struggle with predictive text which shows my computer skills!

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:02 pm

Siddo wrote:Hey up Damo. I was only having a bit of fun. I struggle with predictive text which shows my computer skills!

Yep, sorry Siddo. I get a bit carried away at times

lakesclaret · Post by **lakesclaret** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:43 pm

Gotta thank the OP for the seething frothing head spinning puce like rage the mere mention of Trump sends lefties into. I'm no fan of DT and I'm enjoying the comedy undercurrent of his presidency,however people forget he's not a politician .He is however a hugely successful businessman with a no nonsense common sense direct way of going about his business.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:28 pm

lakesclaret wrote:Gotta thank the OP for the seething frothing head spinning puce like rage the mere mention of Trump sends lefties into. I'm no fan of DT and I'm enjoying the comedy undercurrent of his presidency,however people forget he's not a politician .He is however a hugely successful businessman with a no nonsense common sense direct way of going about his business.

I expected to get a few more bites if I'm honest

Healeywoodclaret · Post by **Healeywoodclaret** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:29 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:So was Winston Churchill and look how that ended.

Best Prime Minister we ever had.

grapidianclaret · Post by **grapidianclaret** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:30 pm

lakesclaret wrote:Gotta thank the OP for the seething frothing head spinning puce like rage the mere mention of Trump sends lefties into. I'm no fan of DT and I'm enjoying the comedy undercurrent of his presidency,however people forget he's not a politician .He is however a hugely successful businessman with a no nonsense common sense direct way of going about his business.

Think you had an extra 'nonsense' in that last sentence.
Happy to help too .

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:55 pm

A danger to the world.

mrhungryone · Post by **mrhungryone** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:00 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Churchill was a lunatic???

Well he had a bit of depression....and sadly you can get sectioned for it in certain circumstances.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:35 am

mrhungryone wrote:Well he had a bit of depression....and sadly you can get sectioned for it in certain circumstances.

As a person who suffers from depression, I've never considered myself a lunatic.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:50 am

Damo wrote:Not a great fan of the orange skinned POTUS
But

lakesclaret wrote:I'm no fan of DT and I'm enjoying the comedy undercurrent of his presidency, however

Is this the new 'I'm not racist, but...'?

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:22 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Churchill was a lunatic???

Yes he was. But also a genius. If you go to the start of the war nobody would have wanted him in.