we are going down

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:44 pm

sorry im usually a positive poster but Keane gone and no replacement and now Gray gone. its looking very bleak. what the hell is going on. we are dead certs for relegation now.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:46 pm

3 weeks left of the transfer window.

3 weeks.....

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:46 pm

Or top 10 with a couple of wise purchases.. I hope ur right though..

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:46 pm

Don't despair pussy there's lots of time yet, and we've still got the January window.

Burt · Post by **Burt** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:47 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:sorry im usually a positive poster but Keane gone and no replacement and now Gray gone. its looking very bleak. what the hell is going on. we are dead certs for relegation now.

Lump on you'll make a small fortune or wait for 01st September and see if you get better odds

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:48 pm

Everyone's attitude will change after we beat Chelski

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:49 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Don't despair pussy there's lots of time yet, and we've still got the January window.

Massive Arfs..

califclaret · Post by **califclaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:50 pm

Yes we will be going down. To Bournemouth on the bus.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:50 pm

Alfy will be happy, he hates the premier league..

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:50 pm

We could potentially have a midfield of:

JBG....Defour...Cork...Hendrick....Brady.

We aren't going anywhere near that scruffy Championship.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:51 pm

As it stands I 100% agree, my mind may change depending on who is brought in.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:51 pm

We'll be fiiiiiiiiiiine. It won't be pretty but it'll be effective. Mid-table, pushing for the top ten. There's a lot of hype but the Prem's a doddle really.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:55 pm

As the squad currently stands its virtually nailed on that we will be scraping it at the bottom.

Very poor transfer business done so far and Dyche isnt very dynamic in the transfer market either.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:55 pm

We'll be OK.

Chill.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:56 pm

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:00 pm

probably an over reaction but this really is the nail in the coffin.

How can burnley sell arguably our best player and main goal scorer two days before the season starts.

If we don't sign a top forward in the coming days I doubt we will score 30 goals all season

Sheedyclaret · Post by **Sheedyclaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:01 pm

We are in a scrap alright posting that potential midfield all ok but a few early season injuries we are goosed our summer transfer business has been abysmal so far ..

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:02 pm

Sidney1st wrote:3 weeks left of the transfer window.

3 weeks.....

and who do you think in that time we will possibly sign to replace those two main players

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:03 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:sorry im usually a positive poster but Keane gone and no replacement and now Gray gone. its looking very bleak. what the hell is going on. we are dead certs for relegation now.

Keep the faith. Regarding Keane - a Dyche team will not concede a lot of goals. So I don't think we need to worry about that. Tarkowski will do a fantastic job, I'm sure. However, I still expect us to sign another CB to compete with Tarkowski and Mee. As far as I'm concerned, Long should probably be 4th choice but Dyche may have other ideas.

And now on Gray - he is hardly a world beater. I think my concerns are that I felt we needed a striker before selling Gray. Now I want to see 2 new strikers and I don't think that'll happen. Whoever we sign should really have some pace - we can't afford not to add more pace to this side. We all know we need it so hopefully Dyche does too!

Let's see how things pan out by the end of the transfer window. I want the following: CB, Winger/Wide Mid, ST (x2). It'll probably be just 2 of those 4 but if they're quality players who can go straight into the first team then we'll probably be okay.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:04 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:and who do you think in that time we will possibly sign to replace those two main players

Couldn't tell you, not even a guess but we've got 3 weeks left....

Not 3 hours, not 3 days.

3 very very long weeks....

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:05 pm

There's still 3 weeks left so we could get the additions in, no need to panic but i must admit to being a little concerned. The worrying thing for me is any additions now might take a couple of months to get to full speed and gel with the squad. Our past record in the transfer windows dosnt fill me with the greateat confidence but in Dyche we trust.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:06 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:probably an over reaction but this really is the nail in the coffin.

The first or the last nail, probably?

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:06 pm

Think you will probably be going down on some of the other pussies joining you on this thread.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:08 pm

To Chelsea?

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:12 pm

Sidney1st wrote:3 weeks left of the transfer window.

3 weeks.....

SO WHAT???? THE SEASON STARTS ON SATURDAY!!!!!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:26 pm

I'd have had us as finishing 18th, with Gray. It's got harder, but let's see what Dyche can pull out of the hat, first.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:28 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:probably an over reaction but this really is the nail in the coffin.

How can burnley sell arguably our best player and main goal scorer two days before the season starts.

If we don't sign a top forward in the coming days I doubt we will score 30 goals all season

Ifs n buts there mate.

As for selling our best player.

Has Tom Heaton gone!?

The timings not great. BUT we've a few quid to spend.

Let the manager (who got us promoted to the premier league, twice, and the first to keep us there) spend that money.

Keep, the claret n blue, faith.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:28 pm

Remember this thread from when we sold Austin.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:29 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:probably an over reaction but this really is the nail in the coffin.

How can burnley sell arguably our best player and main goal scorer two days before the season starts.

Get a grip. Think Heaton and Vokes might take issue with your assessment of Gray!

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:32 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:sorry im usually a positive poster but Keane gone and no replacement and now Gray gone. its looking very bleak. what the hell is going on. we are dead certs for relegation now.

Dead certs - ffs! Man up and get a grip! You've think we'd never sold players before!

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:32 pm

We're a team that is greater than the value of the individuals. We've survived the loss of better players than AG and been fine. We were in a scrap with or without Keane and Gray, so nothing changed imo.

We are two good buys away from having a fantastic chance of staying up, and there's still 3 weeks of the window left.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:34 pm

Leisure wrote:Get a grip. Think Heaton and Vokes might take issue with your assessment of Gray!

If I'd told you in May you'll start the new season with vokes upfront and no replacement bought for Keane after selling him, I'd have got untold abuse.

Its a bit bizzare I'd have to say. If the money vanishes, you have to question dyches position.

That's obviously worst case scenario.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:41 pm

Saxoman wrote:If I'd told you in May you'll start the new season with vokes upfront and no replacement bought for Keane after selling him, I'd have got untold abuse.

Its a bit bizzare I'd have to say. If the money vanishes, you have to question dyches position.

That's obviously worst case scenario.

How/why would the money disappear???

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:43 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:probably an over reaction but this really is the nail in the coffin.

How can burnley sell arguably our best player and main goal scorer two days before the season starts.

If we don't sign a top forward in the coming days I doubt we will score 30 goals all season

??

I thought I was the most pessimistic poster on here by a long chalk but even I'm not that bothered about Gray going, I prefer Vokes and a five man midfield.
Did we win the league with Gray?
Did he score 20 goals?

He was alright, nothing special, good luck and all that.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:43 pm

Boll0cks. Sh1te thread.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:45 pm

Leisure wrote:How/why would the money disappear???

Ask Owen oystons business partner.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:46 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:sorry im usually a positive poster but Keane gone and no replacement and now Gray gone. its looking very bleak. what the hell is going on. we are dead certs for relegation now.

What a F*****G melt.

@ you.

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:48 pm

We will still finish above Watford, we won't go down were a much stronger side with this squad playing a 4-5-1 an gray doesnt fit in to that. Our only away win last season came with gray as a sub.
With the right acquisition we will be much stronger than last season an much stronger than Watford

Mayoclaret · Post by **Mayoclaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:52 pm

Quicknick wrote:Boll0cks. Sh1te thread.

Agreed ..............it's as if we have never sold anyone of importance............... Jimmy Mac, Dobbo, Taffy, Thomas, Skippy, Austin, Ings, Jayrod, Keane ...............we ARE a Premier League Club but some folk on here just can't seem to accept that, I feel they would be happier if we were struggling in the 4th tier.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:53 pm

Anyone that thinks gray was not one of our best players is just plain stupid. His goal record speaks for itself.

This is a massive loss

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:56 pm

Can honestly say that I'm not really bothered. Had a good season in the Championship as he had excellent service from a winning team.

I was more worried when we sold JayRod, Austin, Andy Gray, Ings and Leighton James.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:01 pm

Saxoman wrote:Ask Owen oystons business partner.

So you're saying that our directors will be taking money out of the club? How?

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:01 pm

Practically everyone in this league has greater pull/spending power than we do - it's inevitable that in a buyer's market our best players are likely to go before we can bring replacements in. It was less than ideal but Defour and Hendrick both arrived after the start of last season. Similar will happen again this time. We'll definitely bring in a striker. Also expect a CB and in an ideal world a winger too.

Given our track record we'll spend big on at least one, probably two of those - it's impossible to assess our survival chances based on where we are today with 3 weeks of the window remaining.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:01 pm

HatfieldClaret wrote:Can honestly say that I'm not really bothered. Had a good season in the Championship as he had excellent service from a winning team.

I was more worried when we sold JayRod, Austin, Andy Gray, Ings and Leighton James.

Poor Andy Payton! Forgotten man..

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:02 pm

Leisure wrote:So you're saying that our directors will be taking money out of the club? How?

Im not saying anything, but anythings possible.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:08 pm

Gray has been the scorer of some spectacular goals, but he's certainly not an "all-round" attacker, like Vokes is. Vokes lacks Gray's pace, but as a player, I still prefer him.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:13 pm

Saxoman wrote:Im not saying anything, but anythings possible.

So what's the point of not saying anything! Even though I think you were suggesting something but then thought better of it!!!

boiledclaret · Post by **boiledclaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:17 pm

We're in a better position than the Swansea opener last season were the team was weaker than the one that went up.

If we have Long as 3rd choice CH then the centre halves pick themselves. Plus we need a pacy goalscoring pest up top even if he spends most of his time on the bench because we need a plan B, C etc. That'll make it 5 target men with Agyei continuing to develop.

And we could possibly do with an extra winger who can catch pigeons and take the ball with him, but doesn't everyone? so join the queue on that one.

I'm slightly concerned but we seem to endlessly be a work in progress, so no need for panic buttons just yet.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:19 pm

Leisure wrote:How/why would the money disappear???

He's a Rovers fan, he's used to money disappearing.

PutTheWheelieBinsOut · Post by **PutTheWheelieBinsOut** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:19 pm

A club after winning just 2 out of their last 15 league games, then goes on to sell their 2 most valuable assets all before bringing any direct replacements in.

I keep reading 'theres three weeks left in the transfer window'.............. Well why didn't we tell Watford that and sign a replacement striker before selling Gray????

Oh how we doing finding that replacement defender for Keane ........ how many weeks have we been trying??