Everton move for Dyche

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:41 am

Being reported on Sky Sports that Everton will move for Dyche in next 24 hours.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:44 am

We need to offer a hands off message from our Chairman. It may not make a difference but needs doing.we also need to double Sean's money.

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:45 am

While important, I don’t think money will be Dyche’s main factor in deciding whether he stays or goes

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:46 am

I thought there was a gentleman's agreement that PL clubs don't approach other PL clubs for their managers during the season? It doesn't happen often - is it just Burnley that get screwed over? Hopefully nothing will come of it and Dyche will be managing us in Europe next season

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:47 am

If they come in he will go. Nothing we can offer him will change that.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:53 am

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:56 am

Just think about what Sky are actually saying there before we get too het up.

They’re saying that Everton have decided to approach Dyche, but haven’t done so yet. Instead the one or two individuals at Everton who would make that decision have decided to call Sky contacts first.

It doesn’t make any sense.

I’m still unconvinced that Dyche fits the profile Everton want. Everton fans will see him as Moyes MKII. They don’t want another Moyes.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:04 am

I dont believe that Dyche is the kind of person to leave a club during a season leaving the club in the lurch.

Alrhough I could see him possibly leaving whilst leaving the rest of the management team in place. I can see him saying to Woan or even Duff "nows your chance". The structure is in place, the players to a degree are self managing as alluded to in his interview

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:08 am

If they come in he will go. Il put money on it.

As for ssn reporting on it, it could just be totally made up but they must have some info. Can’t see ssn just totally making it up.

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:09 am

Cleveleys_claret wrote:I dont believe that Dyche is the kind of person to leave a club during a season leaving the club in the lurch.

Alrhough I could see him possibly leaving whilst leaving the rest of the management team in place. I can see him saying to Woan or even Duff "nows your chance". The structure is in place, the players to a degree are self managing as alluded to in his interview

Hardly in the lurch are we?

If Everton come in, he’ll go. No doubt about it.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:15 am

Put Mike Duff in as caretaker, then when Everton sack Dyche after 5 games we give Sean his job back and crack on.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:16 am

Of course SSN are going to report this, whether it’s true or not. They “own” the Premier League and are protecting their product by trying to destabilise unpopular Burnley who have now stepped out of line by looking like they will become established.

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:17 am

Tin foil hat time

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:21 am

I reckon we should beat them to the punch and sack him; straight away!

mohamed69 · Post by **mohamed69** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:29 am

Rick_Muller wrote:Of course SSN are going to report this, whether it’s true or not. They “own” the Premier League and are protecting their product by trying to destabilise unpopular Burnley who have now stepped out of line by looking like they will become established.

Delusional

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:31 am

If he was to go I wouldn't give Duff the job even as a Caretaker. He may well turn out to be a good Manager but he's only been doing it for a few months.

The best option in my opinion would be to keep Woan etc until we've hired someone and then Dyche can take them if he wants them.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:31 am

SSNews have covered every conceivable angle of the story by putting the word LIKELY in the story. Likely could mean absolutely anything used in this context.

Are our board guilty of giving Dyche too much control at the club because I just cannot see how we are going to replace him if he goes. The entire approach would change overnight because Dyche is clearly an exceptional one off in the history of BFC..

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:32 am

If he does go then does that mean we forget about OC and turn SD into the pantomime villain?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:44 am

Everton fans still talk about Ancelloti and go all misty eyed about Unsworth being a blue.

I think its absolutely bonkers that they haven't made our manager first choice but I'm not going to complain!

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:45 am

mohamed69 wrote:Delusional

Please explain

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:48 am

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I strongly suspect that Dyche will still be Burnley Manager by next May.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:52 am

Listening to the radio on the way home did make me laugh though.

Five minutes about Everton should go for Dyche and then, someone mentioned something about Unsworth being fat, and the rest of the journey home was spent listening to (presumably) fat people ringing up to defend another fat person.

mohamed69 · Post by **mohamed69** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:53 am

Rick_Muller wrote:Please explain

Explain SS' love affair with Leicester two seasons ago in the context of what you just said.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:54 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Everton fans still talk about Ancelloti and go all misty eyed about Unsworth being a blue.

I think its absolutely bonkers that they haven't made our manager first choice but I'm not going to complain!

If Everton want European football they'd be a bit daft to appoint SD. If they just want stability he's perfect.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:57 am

Seriously ?? We all know Sky talk crap. We are 7th having our best season in the Premier league and Everton in the relegation zone. He isn't the sort of manager to jump ship mid season and is definitely a man of honour. IMO he's going nowhere.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:58 am

I will make the post I never wanted to, but did expect to.

If he gets offered that job, he will go - he kind of has to. A lot of folk went mad at Carragher's comments last night, but he is sadly spot on. The biggest job Dyche can concievably be offered is the Everton one, that might not come round again (partocularly if he was to turn them down).

In life, you have to take your opportunity when it comes as it may not again. I have had the chance to progressy career twice through headhunting opportunities and have not looked back. That is nothing against my former employers but lifes too short to go misty eyed over a place that has been good to you when you get a chance to double your salary, or better. You have to strike whilst the iron is hot and his reputation is currently the highest it will ever be managing our club, without a shadow of a doubt.

I will draw your attention to Sean's comments on Michael Keane leaving us for Everton last summer:

"I menioned last year to him and to the world, when people were chasing after him, that I thought he had more to do at Burnley, before he moves on," the Turf chief said.

"Now I think now he’s in a really good place to go on and take his career on again - and we can only thank him for what he’s done.

"He’s been a fantastic servant to us, both on and off the pitch."

"The reality was that Michael was probably going to move," he said.

"It’s not about him wanting to leave; it’s just a natural progression.

"It’s fair to say that Everton have been in the Premier League for a very long time and they’re looking to get even stronger.

"They’re making a big investment there now and it’s a right move at the right time for him."

Now, those comments make total sense in the context of Keane's career. If Dyche believed that then about him, you can be damn sure he would back himself to go to Everton and sort out their mess.

It's a very sad situation as a Burnley fan, but when this happens (I think it is inevitable) let us not villify this man, he is no Owen Coyle. Dyche is a man of integrity and honesty who has served us unbelievably well. If he leaves, he leaves with my thanks and best wishes.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:00 am

Boden tweeted this hasn’t come from Everton but perhaps an agent trying to get his client an improved deal.

stanshorse · Post by **stanshorse** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:10 am

Don't like the look of the odds

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Grimsdale · Post by **Grimsdale** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:15 am

stanshorse wrote:Don't like the look of the odds

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I'll guarantee Skybet do though

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:15 am

Whilst I loved every minute of the match last night, I very much doubt that, that performance had the Everton decision makers drooling and reaching for the telephone.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:17 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Boden tweeted this hasn’t come from Everton but perhaps an agent trying to get his client an improved deal.

So Boden won't be on the Xmas card list of SD's agent now

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:18 am

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Alanstevensonsgloves · Post by **Alanstevensonsgloves** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:20 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Boden tweeted this hasn’t come from Everton but perhaps an agent trying to get his client an improved deal.

My thoughts are it's a smokescreen. Classic negotiating tactics by Everton. We do it as well with players we dont want but are linked to, to get another team to panic sell our real target to us sharpish at the best price.

Calm down everyone!

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:21 am

There's simply not enough Man U or Chelsea news around at the moment and so Sky are looking for a story to fill the time before the weekend - and have decided that this is news.

Strange how other top British managers don't get a mention when these jobs become available, the reason is they're not as media friendly as Sean and their clubs marketing and PR teams are better at dealing with made-up Sky rumours

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:25 am

mohamed69 wrote:Explain SS' love affair with Leicester two seasons ago in the context of what you just said.

What the “Fairy take” story of the large city club with massive foreign owners you mean? As opposed to small town club who have no commercial influence outside of 25sqm in east lancs...?

taio · Post by **taio** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:27 am

Would be surprised if Everton don't at least want to talk to him given the amazing job he's done here - if they do I'm sure they'll be impressed and what he has to say - and if they make a move I'd also be surprised if SD then turned them down.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:27 am

I had to read Mohameds post twice, after the first one left me with a vision of black clad stormtroopers with Leicester City scarves on the Eastern Front.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:32 am

I think if Everton want him, the only hope we have is if they can't offer him the kind of control and influence he has at Burnley.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:36 am

I think Sean is a very principled man in a sphere where principles are very hard to find and it's one reason he's been so successful and such a good fit at Burnley. I also think those principles will not allow him to jump ship part way through a season (a season which is going well) and move to a rival. He may well go during a close season, possibly even the next close season, but I just don't see him bailing on any club under these circumstances. Look what happened with Michael Keane. SD told him to stick out the season and then move on in the summer in the "proper" manner rather than plump for a January move which would have been disastrous for us.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:37 am

I wouldn’t expect him to turn down the job, it would be just about the biggest position he could reasonably expect to get. I’m sorry but there’s absolutely no way he would get a job like, for example, Arsenal - that’s just the delusion on here speaking.
That said, I’d be surprised if he comes close to being offered the Everton job, I expect they will want a bigger name.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:37 am

Chris Boden saying that Everton have decided to keep Unsworth in charge for at least the next two games and are taking their time over an appointment.

Come on David!

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:44 am

Everton have some problems, we can all see it.

Didn't replace Lukaku, the players have looked lost in more than one occasion, like they couldn't be arsed on others.

Dyche could well sort them out, but I doubt it would be pretty.
The complaining by some Burnley fans when he turned up and tightened up the defence was especially amusing, could you imagine the Toffees liking it?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:44 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Chris Boden saying that Everton have decided to keep Unsworth in charge for at least the next two games and are taking their time over an appointment.

Come on David!

The big question is how much weight can Dave lose in the space of two games?

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:47 am

Looking at the time of the opening post the Everton board must have met bloody early this morning to discuss their next move and then ring Sky to inform them what it would be.

All guess work as are the thoughts of all of us fans and the bookies who are changing their minds like the wind.

I bet SD his having a giggle to himself over his cornflakes this morning.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:50 am

If it was offered there is s good chance he would take it. I don't think the grass will be greener though and at the moment we have a more better team than Everton. We must try and make sure we keep the squad particularly the defence and central midfield.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:50 am

He hasn't eaten since he got the job.

He can do a full ravanelli with his tummy skin now!

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:53 am

Inchy wrote:If they come in he will go. Nothing we can offer him will change that.

Other than employment that isn’t really result dependant.

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:54 am

If Everton want somebody to stabilize the team short term and guarantee they avoid a relegation fight Allardyce is the man they need, if they want somebody to stabilize the club long term and are willing to risk possible relegation (albeit slim risk) along the way then yes SD is the ideal candidate but would the fans take that from a manager they wrongly see as a Moyes clone, if they want to be where we are with the players they have now they need a miracle and a Ranieri/Ancelotti type manager. I don't think SD will see it as a step up more of a starting again with less input.
The other thing is If SD goes can he do it without his staff as I can't see the club allowing a mass exodus of staff again mid season even if it means putting them on gardening leave, so he may have to wait until the summer to bring in his team and by then they might be a championship side and he may be out of work.

LordBob · Post by **LordBob** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:59 am

I think Mr Blobby will turn it around which will be gerat news for Everton for Burnley for Mcdonalds and not least of all oversize suit manufacturers and I have heard from a reliable source David has the backing of no less a person than Dianne Abbot MP

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:00 am

tybfc wrote:I bet SD his having a giggle to himself over his cornflakes this morning.

I very much doubt he eats cornflakes and even if he did he would never 'giggle' in any situation.