Three match ban for Tarkowski

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:42 pm

Tarks deserved it. I thought he would have learned to keep his hands/arms/elbows to himself after the Arsenal fiasco but he appears to be a little naive or panic-stricken in certain situations.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:49 pm

Gutted.

He's still learning. He made a mistake. He'll learn from it. Sean Dyche will make sure of that.

Step forward Mr. Long

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:57 pm

So if Mee or Long get injured or suspended ?

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:58 pm

So Murray grabbing his dislocated finger to wind him up didn't get mentioned?
This ban was always total bxxxcks but then was Grays and Joeys .
We can still get 38 points before New Year we just have to push on.Big Kev did well before so he can again.
Let's hope the ref keeps an eye on Alli.Dele is very fond of over the ball tackles and leaving stud impressions on the opposition.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:59 pm

FCBurnley wrote:So if Mee or Long get injured or suspended ?

We will cope.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:00 pm

FCBurnley wrote:So if Mee or Long get injured or suspended ?

all Spurs have to do at the weekend is persistently foul and hurt both our central pair, they have a vested interest in breaking up our defensive unit.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:00 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:So Murray grabbing his dislocated finger to wind him up didn't get mentioned?

Why would it?

Are you proposing we ban handshakes in football?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:13 pm

RocketLawnChair wrote:I might be in a minority of one but I would certainly have demanded a penalty for us if for instance Wood had gone down like Murray did under a similar challenge from Dunk for eg.

I am struggling to see what Murray as done wrong tbh. Tarks was utterly stupid with the elbow sore hand or not and got way to close to his man in the box thus conceding a penalty.

The ball wasn't in play, ergo no penalty.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:13 pm

MACCA wrote:Nah doubt it. See nose breaking or leg breaking challenges weekly across the leagues.

If your going to do it, may as well connect.

I agree with your point about Murray though. I'd want a pen and red should it have been Wood on the receiving end.

So in that respect we gained a point if nothing else from the game, as I don't think we would have drew if down to 10 and the pen against.

See above.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:22 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Taylor or Cork or even Lowton could fill in, we are not devoid of options if Mee or Long gets injured.

The only one of those I would be happy with at cb for any length of time is Cork and to have to take out of cm would be barmy. The fact that we have done well so far is irrelevant. If we have 2 of our 3 cbs out we are in a mess and how anyone can think otherwise is odd. We have a £100m plus revenue budget ffs. Use it.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:25 pm

summitclaret wrote:The only one of those I would be happy with at cb for any length of time is Cork and to have to take out of cm would be barmy. The fact that we have done well so far is irrelevant. If we have 2 of our 3 cbs out we are in a mess and how anyone can think otherwise is odd. We have a £100m plus revenue budget ffs. Use it.

Dyche is clearly happy with Taylor as our 4th choice centre back though, and I think he's better placed to take a view on this seeing as the rest of us have never seen him play in this position in a competitive match.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:26 pm

summitclaret wrote:The only one of those I would be happy with at cb for any length of time is Cork and to have to take out of cm would be barmy. The fact that we have done well so far is irrelevant. If we have 2 of our 3 cbs out we are in a mess and how anyone can think otherwise is odd. We have a £100m plus revenue budget ffs. Use it.

It's a rainy day fund,is it dry powder?

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:26 pm

Clearly happy? Evidence?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:28 pm

summitclaret wrote:Clearly happy? Evidence?

Evidence being that he didn't seem to make any effort to sign another centre back and played Taylor at centre back in pre-season.

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:04 pm

Fully deserved, he was stupid and all the whinging about diving is completely irrelevant to this point.

He elbowed someone on the sly, got caught for his stupidity and has been rightly punished. The end.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:12 pm

It was inevitable once he did it. Let's look on the bright, if there is one, he gets a few games rest to focus on the rest of the season and Long gets a chance to shine.

brigante · Post by **brigante** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:26 pm

He's having surgery to have a pin inserted into a broken bone in his hand. Sounds like the ban is academic given the games he would miss anyway

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:29 pm

Is that two acts of stupidity in front of Gareth Southgate? The push for the Arsenal penalty and that elbow were both totally unnecessary. I hope he can sort those "instincts" out and remove them from his game. As SD has said in the past, if he was the finished article he wouldn't be here and he needs to learn from these things and move on. He's got massive potential.

ashtonlongsider · Post by **ashtonlongsider** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:10 pm

Didn't expect anything other than a 3 match ban myself. My only gripe being the lack of consistency and bigger clubs getting what would appear more favourable treatment. The EPL is anything but a level playing field and something needs doing to address.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:13 pm

An act of stupidity hopefully he will learn from. Bet he’s been hit with a hefty fine as well.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:27 pm

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strayclaret · Post by **strayclaret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:27 pm

What a Twitowski, time for big Kevin to cement his place, what an opportunity.

Grimsby Claret · Post by **Grimsby Claret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:28 pm

Hope Tarky is now wiser of the Consequences for fouling, Violent conduct your banned. Foul in the area it’s a penalty to the opposition.
The inconsistency of the officials is frustrating though 2 spurs players should also have been missing this Saturday.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:31 pm

brigante wrote:He's having surgery to have a pin inserted into a broken bone in his hand. Sounds like the ban is academic given the games he would miss anyway

That's what i took from Dyche's comments too. Sounds like he will do well to be fit for the Liverpool game

Grimsby Claret · Post by **Grimsby Claret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:32 pm

strayclaret wrote:What a Twitowski, time for big Kevin to cement his place, what an opportunity.

If Long plays exceptionally well Tarky will lose his place that’s Dyche’s way.
So there could be an even harder lesson for Tarky yet.

Carport · Post by **Carport** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:32 pm

He’s broken his hand and had an operation to have it pinned. Murray grabs his broken hand. How painful that must have been. Why hasn’t that been used as mitigation and why not exposed to the likes of Talk Sport or SSN? Or perhaps it has and I’ve missed it!

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:40 pm

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Five pins and a plate inserted into his hand, apparently. I think he'd have missed a game or two whether or not.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:41 pm

Tall Paul wrote:I know, that's the point. Once the charge is made the FA have already made up their minds.

I'd agree with that. I reckon it would take some doing to force a climb down once they've charged a player.

2 Bee Holed · Post by **2 Bee Holed** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:45 pm

Posts 70,71 and 72 are exactly why I took time to investigate this and started the thread 'Tarkoski's Hand'
but here we go let's vilify him!
These posters in 70, 71 and 72 either don't know the facts or have clearly played professional football with a broken hand and then had it squeezed.
Hey ho they must be hard.
Here is what Sean Dyche has to say about it.
Dyche felt there were mitigating circumstances in the clash and revealed Tarkowski had had surgery on a hand injury picked up in that game and that Murray had played on that before the clash.
"First of all I think it must be pointed out we don’t condone it," Dyche said of the incident.
"At the time I was annoyed with Tarky, but having seen it after the game, the reason we’re a bit surprised is you can clearly Murray grab his hand, which has five pins and a metal plate in. We put that to the panel but they said it shouldn’t be reduced.
"That incident can’t be put in the same bracket as some that get three game bans. It’s very disappointing particularly when you have someone at the other end diving on the floor who gets nothing - and you know how I feel about that.
"James has five pins in it. He had damaged it before (the incident) but Murray knows it. He just happened to grab his hand – maybe it was by accident of course."
Dyche also felt Murray made the most of the first-half incident.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:49 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Evidence being that he didn't seem to make any effort to sign another centre back and played Taylor at centre back in pre-season.

I don't buy that and certainly not having seen CT playback then. I believe that he was trying to bring someone in and failed. The talking about Taylor was a smokescreen to try and get the price down imo. Get ready for the same approach any time soon. Taylor is not and never will be a PL cb.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:55 pm

Perhaps he should have just kicked Murray in the boll#cks twice,he'd off got off Scot free.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:59 pm

Would he have been able to play despite this hand injury (with some kind of protective sleeve over it)?

If not, then it's perfect timing, cos SD says in the LT he should be ok to play by the time the ban finishes.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:07 pm

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2 Bee Holed wrote:Posts 70,71 and 72 are exactly why I took time to investigate this and started the thread 'Tarkoski's Hand'
but here we go let's vilify him!

An act of stupidity

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dsr · Post by **dsr** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:39 pm

And next time you have broken bones in your hand, and someone maliciously grabs it to hurt you, can you give an absolute guarantee that you won't react with violence? Because you'd be stupid to. Apparently.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:45 pm

2 Bee Holed wrote:Posts 70,71 and 72 are exactly why I took time to investigate this and started the thread 'Tarkoski's Hand'

Btw,your investigation has proved rather fruitless..
He is still banned for 3 games

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:48 pm

I broke my little finger many years ago. It was mega painful. If someone had grabbed I cannot be sure how severe my reaction would be, but I am sure it would have been a lot worse than Tarks did.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:53 pm

Aye maybe,but would you have got a three match ban ?

strayclaret · Post by **strayclaret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:26 pm

Broke my hand, 6 years ago, had 3 plates in it, also had a pot upto my elbow, 4 weeks out of driving, Worked after 2 days, come on our boy will recover soon and can afford a driver, but will he be able to replace big Kevin, after 3 clean sheets ?

claretman1 · Post by **claretman1** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:28 pm

Memo to Tarky from the FA following his 3 match ban for violent conduct.

Hope you learn from this Mr Tarkowski. When someone grabs your broken hand in future, you should smile sweetly and say "excuse me but that's a tad painful, would you be kind enough to stop squeezing it so I can get on with the game?" I'd be ever so grateful."

Biggest load of sphericals I've heard in years. God help the future of the game if morons like this are running it.

2 Bee Holed · Post by **2 Bee Holed** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:28 pm

Dazzler wrote:Btw,your investigation has proved rather fruitless..
He is still banned for 3 games

Some Burnley fans were wondering why he had flipped.
It was not like him to lose his temper so easily.
Fruitless? I wasn't expecting the Club or the F.A. to use
my evidence. However, it did explain to some sensible Burnley fans, in advance of today,
why he had so uncharacteristically lost control. As it turns out, I had found the exact reason
and it was very similar info that was put to the F.A. to try and reduce his ban.
Up until that point, I and some others simply thought he had simply lost it.

Anyhow, keep coming up with the Dad's Army clips of him being 'a stupid boy''.
I forget just how hard some people are especially with broken bones in their hands.
Can you not find a clip where they call Pike 'fruitless'?

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:37 pm

Tarky is a mardy-arse quitter

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Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:40 pm

Inevitable, unfair but inevitable.
The thing that really stinks is the way the FA, led by the media, cherry pick the targets.
Players are only brought to book for diving IF the media make a song and dance about it.
The two dives against us both go unpunished.....Why for ***** sake.
Greys against City goes unpunished because the right team won in the end, but imagine the stink if Leicester had gone on to win. How can the result affect the decision to review a blatant dive......

The FA, a shower of shite.

RMutt · Post by **RMutt** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:11 pm

No action taken on United City throwingstuffatoneanothergate.

yorkyclaret · Post by **yorkyclaret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:52 pm

Hope and expect the fans will make a big show support for Tarky on Saturday.

mill hill claret · Post by **mill hill claret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:12 pm

Would like to see the reaction of certain posters on here if they had a broken hand and somebody squeezed it ...professional or not .your going to react..human after all

Andy J · Post by **Andy J** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:14 pm

Mr Murray. 28 April 2018. Turf Moor will be waiting . . .

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:01 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:Inevitable, unfair but inevitable.
The thing that really stinks is the way the FA, led by the media, cherry pick the targets.
Players are only brought to book for diving IF the media make a song and dance about it.
The two dives against us both go unpunished.....Why for ***** sake.
Greys against City goes unpunished because the right team won in the end, but imagine the stink if Leicester had gone on to win. How can the result affect the decision to review a blatant dive......

The FA, a shower of shite.

The FA should just be a rule making body they should never have been allowed to run a league, they were just about OK with a cup, but you wouldn't have OFCOM running a telecommunications company - The FA should let other people take over The FA Cup and Premier League and then they could be a rule making body without conflicts of interest. They've got historical institutional racism and sexism to worry about anyway, and I suspect their alleged cover up of child sexual abuse will be enough for them to deal with.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:59 pm

RMutt wrote:No action taken on United City throwingstuffatoneanothergate.

Can't expect the FA too upset the chuckle brothers can you

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:06 pm

Tarks was stupid to respond. 3 match ban will probably cost the club in points and potentially a place or two. Those places are worth several million come the end of the season.

addisclaret · Post by **addisclaret** » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:06 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Elbowing someone like that is not very clever,stupid of Tarkowski,and now he misses two of the biggest games of the season Spurs & United I hope he's is heavily fined by the club as well for his sheer stupidity.

k...nob