Europa League Seedings

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun May 20, 2018 11:10 pm

Jesus, if we get FC Kariat Almaty

That is almost on the Chinese border ffs!

Dy1geo · Post by **Dy1geo** » Sun May 20, 2018 11:11 pm

So basically we have to hope we hit lucky in the draw for Q2 & Q3 and if we get to the playoffs hope that there have been some shocks so we get seeded

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 20, 2018 11:18 pm

Dy1geo wrote:So basically we have to hope we hit lucky in the draw for Q2 & Q3 and if we get to the playoffs hope that there have been some shocks so we get seeded

If we do get to the play off round we will probably be seeded if only 1 of these higher ranked sides end up in EL qualifying from Champs league qualifiers:

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Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sun May 20, 2018 11:29 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Jesus, if we get FC Kariat Almaty

That is almost on the Chinese border ffs!

175 miles as the crow flies

3,500 mile flight from Manchester.

In Europe?.. my @rse

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Mon May 21, 2018 12:06 am

Is there anyone else besides me trying to follow the geniuses on hear, failing, and as a result can’t be arsed because what will be, will be?

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon May 21, 2018 12:32 am

That Bloomin' Lancasterclaret has set me off now...

Friggin' Pavlodar in Kazakhstan is only 75 miles from 'Sunny Siberia'

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon May 21, 2018 12:50 am

For all those who are dreaming of a possible trip to the San Siro in the group stages;you might want to hope that we do not draw a team from any one of these nations early on:

Ireland,Finland,Norway,Sweden,Iceland,Latvia,Estonia,Lithuania,Belarus,Moldova or Kazakhstan.

Teams from those countries that we could possibly draw might only be of League 2 standard at best ; but they will be 15-20 games into their season.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon May 21, 2018 9:27 am

Claret&Green wrote:We couldn't beat a non league club on our own turf in the fa cup last Jan. Personally I am of the opinion we would be better of sacrificing Europa League as early as possible and concentrating on a mid table finish. God forbid we get any injuries in the 6 games we'd have to play before getting to the competition proper.

I would like to award you 10/10 for the most pessimistic, unambitious post I have seen in quite some time. Why would anyone sacrifice a place in Europe for fear of being relegated from the bloody PL? Why are people so afraid? I damn well despair I really do. The biggest achievement in the last 50 years for Burnley FC and some of you would duck out just so we will be mid-table in the over hyped over glorified PL. Personally I would rather we won the Europa and got relegated. There is more to football life than just surviving in the PL and playing in Europe is one of them. Get a grip.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Mon May 21, 2018 9:50 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Jesus, if we get FC Kariat Almaty

That is almost on the Chinese border ffs!

I'm up for that one !!!

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon May 21, 2018 9:51 am

Dazzler wrote:For all those who are dreaming of a possible trip to the San Siro in the group stages;you might want to hope that we do not draw a team from any one of these nations early on:

Finland,Norway,Sweden,Iceland,Latvia,Estonia,Lithuania,Belarus,Moldova or Kazakhstan.

Teams from those countries that we could possibly draw might only be of League 2 standard at best ; but they will be 15-20 games into their season.

Someone suggested there is a limit to how far we'll have to travel for our first match.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon May 21, 2018 10:08 am

Your flights to Almaty guys!

Oh goody, Aeroflot!

https://www.skyscanner.net/transport/fl ... me#results" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon May 21, 2018 10:22 am

Whilst when the time comes i'll want us to win badly my hope/focus is on getting a really good, sunny and accessible venue for our first away leg and would take getting knocked out there over winning a few rounds in the outreaches of Europe where only fans desperate to see the game will be likely to travel.

The first away leg is the one that potentially every man and his dog will want to go to and will be more like a big party with thousands turning up juts for a drink and a jolly. After that is will go back to more the hardcore fans whose priority is watching the game in the stadium unless of course we get a really plum draw later on in the competition like a visit to the San Siro

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon May 21, 2018 10:26 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Your flights to Almaty guys!

Oh goody, Aeroflot!

https://www.skyscanner.net/transport/fl ... me#results" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If we did have to travel to somewhere like that for our first match at least it solves the issue of enough tickets.
Not many Burnley fans are going to pay that much, plus hotel costs for the match, first game or not.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Mon May 21, 2018 10:36 am

Leisure can get 12 on here.
They'll have to split £57 k plus between them though.
But those Accy Clarets have always been a bit richer than most!

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Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon May 21, 2018 10:43 am

Only knowing our opponents for the 2nd round one week before may make it difficult for big numbers to travel if we were away in the first leg.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Mon May 21, 2018 10:44 am

Spijed wrote:If we did have to travel to somewhere like that for our first match at least it solves the issue of enough tickets.
Not many Burnley fans are going to pay that much, plus hotel costs for the match, first game or not.

£450 from heathrow bargain

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Mon May 21, 2018 12:43 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:I'm in Croatia for the first game.
Osijek and Rijeka would be a bit far/awkward, but Hajduk Split would be perfect.
3.5 hours by bus and they run every 45 mins from Dubrovnik.

Fingers crossed.

A couple of Montenegro sides in there that would be nearer to you. We are in Paris for the the end of Le Tour but PSG let us down and went for CL.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Mon May 21, 2018 12:56 pm

Spijed wrote:If we did have to travel to somewhere like that for our first match at least it solves the issue of enough tickets.
Not many Burnley fans are going to pay that much, plus hotel costs for the match, first game or not.

slightly cheaper from here but still around 400 quid.

KateR · Post by **KateR** » Mon May 21, 2018 1:57 pm

can't see link for the potential teams, are there any teams in Iceland we could get? Always wanted to go there and that game would be a good excuse

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon May 21, 2018 2:12 pm

KateR wrote:can't see link for the potential teams, are there any teams in Iceland we could get? Always wanted to go there and that game would be a good excuse

According to Wiki, Stjarnan, Fimleikafélag Hafnarfjarðar and Íþróttabandalag Vestmannaeyja (IBV) will all be in the 1st qualifying round.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Mon May 21, 2018 2:20 pm

KRBFC wrote:Fimleikafélag Hafnarfjarðar and Íþróttabandalag Vestmannaeyja (IBV) will all be in the 1st qualifying round.

They play each other today if any streaming scouts fancy a sken at 4pm

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon May 21, 2018 2:20 pm

KateR wrote:can't see link for the potential teams, are there any teams in Iceland we could get? Always wanted to go there and that game would be a good excuse

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Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon May 21, 2018 2:20 pm

Whose the most hated man at Íþróttabandalag Vestmannaeyja (IBV) ?

The man who starts the singing with "Give us an I"

Goddy · Post by **Goddy** » Mon May 21, 2018 2:32 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:Have a butchers at this site. That should sum up where we are, though it isn’t quite fully up to date. Seeded on the left, unseeded on the right. Bold is an entrant in that round, unbolded is a possible qualifier from the prior round. The numbers are their seeding coefficient. It’s the play offs, when we move to the right hand column, where the fun starts (assuming we don’t suffer a catastrophic exit by then).

https://www.footballseeding.com/europea ... ing-18-19/

For those folk pondering the Champions League element, there is a picture half way down this page which explains it, though I thought it was 2 side’s entering from CL Q2, not 3. A bit of ambiguity online.

https://www.footballseeding.com/europea ... for-18-19/

Not being funny (probably just me being stupid) but how come Sevilla, Besiktas etc show in the 2nd Qualifying round but are also in Pot 1 when the group stages are shown? Not sure if they are through to the group stages or have to go through qualifying.

Jeez - it's complicated!!

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon May 21, 2018 3:25 pm

Goddy wrote:Not being funny (probably just me being stupid) but how come Sevilla, Besiktas etc show in the 2nd Qualifying round but are also in Pot 1 when the group stages are shown? Not sure if they are through to the group stages or have to go through qualifying.

Jeez - it's complicated!!

It means if they progress to the group stages then they will be seeded.

It shows Burnley will be seeded if we advance to the 3rd round.
Simple innit

Dublin7Claret · Post by **Dublin7Claret** » Mon May 21, 2018 4:11 pm

does the seeding effect whether you are home or away in the 1st leg? Or is that just luck of the draw?

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon May 21, 2018 4:54 pm

Dublin7Claret wrote:does the seeding effect whether you are home or away in the 1st leg? Or is that just luck of the draw?

I can't be expected to know everything

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Mon May 21, 2018 4:58 pm

Dublin7Claret wrote:does the seeding effect whether you are home or away in the 1st leg? Or is that just luck of the draw?

I read somewhere that we will be away first leg, but can't find the info now.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon May 21, 2018 5:09 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:I read somewhere that we will be away first leg, but can't find the info now.

I heard the same, so that will be the 26th ish of July won't it?

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Mon May 21, 2018 5:12 pm

MACCA wrote:I heard the same, so that will be the 26th ish of July won't it?

it will MACCA, primed to pay "school holiday" flight prices

longside72 · Post by **longside72** » Mon May 21, 2018 5:19 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:I read somewhere that we will be away first leg, but can't find the info now.

Hope thats the case , its my birthday so hoping for a decent place .

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon May 21, 2018 5:37 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Only knowing our opponents for the 2nd round one week before may make it difficult for big numbers to travel if we were away in the first leg.

The draws for the 1st & 2nd rounds are on 19th June.
We play our 1st leg just over 3 weeks later on 26th July.

Please don't ask me how they work it out

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon May 21, 2018 5:45 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Only knowing our opponents for the 2nd round one week before may make it difficult for big numbers to travel if we were away in the first leg.

The draws for the 1st & 2nd rounds are on 19th June.
We play our 1st leg just over 3 weeks later on 26th July.

Please don't ask me how they work it out

Ah,I see what you mean.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon May 21, 2018 5:47 pm

Dazzler wrote:It means if they progress to the group stages then they will be seeded.

It shows Burnley will be seeded if we advance to the 3rd round.
Simple innit

I think seeding takes on a different form in the group stages with all sides ranked sequentially, the table on foootballseeding.com just shows which Pot out of four each side would be in, the sides in bold heading straight into the group stages and the sides not in bold having to win qualifying games. We are thus certain (barring a freak set of results) to be in Pot 3 in the group stages which would mean we would get 2 bigger clubs and 1 smaller club. Sevilla, AC Milan, Burnley and Slavia Prague would be a typical group we may get.

It is likely to be academic as we are probably going to be like West Ham (twice), Southampton and Hull in recent years to fail to reach the group stages, and all of them lost to smaller clubs too.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Mon May 21, 2018 5:49 pm

Dazzler wrote:The draws for the 1st & 2nd rounds are on 19th June.
We play our 1st leg just over 3 weeks later on 26th July.

Please don't ask me how they work it out

It is still an either or until the first round is complete.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon May 21, 2018 5:51 pm

piston broke wrote:It is still an either or until the first round is complete.

See post 33

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon May 21, 2018 5:52 pm

I notice some teams are down as seeding unknown.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon May 21, 2018 6:02 pm

piston broke wrote:It is still an either or until the first round is complete.

Not necessarily though.
There are 47 teams that enter at the 2nd round stage & 27 from 1st round.
You work it out.

And being a seeded team we might get a straight draw.
If you know what I mean.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon May 21, 2018 6:05 pm

I've not read the whole thread, but will Rangers be seeded? Hoping for a Burnley vs Rangers draw.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon May 21, 2018 6:07 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I've not read the whole thread, but will Rangers be seeded? Hoping for a Burnley vs Rangers draw.

Rangers not seeded so yes we could draw them.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon May 21, 2018 6:10 pm

piston broke wrote:It is still an either or until the first round is complete.

Like I say,not necessarily.
Take a look at the 2017/18 2nd round draw.
Some teams were given a 'straight draw'

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.uefa ... 77958.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon May 21, 2018 6:11 pm

Dazzler wrote:Rangers not seeded so yes we could draw them.

Thanks Dazzler. I know a Rangers fan and he thinks we'll beat them if we get drawn.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon May 21, 2018 6:15 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Thanks Dazzler. I know a Rangers fan and he thinks we'll beat them if we get drawn.

It all depends if we take it seriously and not treat it as a warm up/friendly.

I'd much prefer we look after our 'bread & butter'

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Mon May 21, 2018 6:33 pm

Out of 143 teams in the qualifiers only 13 will get to the group stages to join the 35 who have qualified directly to the group stages,

To be one of 13 teams out of 143 to make it puts it intp perspective

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon May 21, 2018 7:20 pm

paulatky wrote:Out of 143 teams in the qualifiers only 13 will get to the group stages to join the 35 who have qualified directly to the group stages,

To be one of 13 teams out of 143 to make it puts it intp perspective

35 teams will play in the Champs Path qualifiers.
8 will adavance to the group stages.All teams will come from Champs league qualifying.

130 teams will play in the main/league path qualifiers.
2 will come from Champs league qualifying.
13 will advance to group stages.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon May 21, 2018 7:25 pm

Dazzler wrote:35 teams will play in the Champs Path qualifiers.
8 will adavance to the group stages.All teams will come from Champs league qualifying.

130 teams will play in the main/league path qualifiers.
2 will come from Champs league qualifying.
13 will advance to group stages.

And how many are postmen, goat herders, farmers, druids or nomads from the far reaches of Europe?

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Mon May 21, 2018 7:25 pm

Im not sure if its at all possible but Id be happy with just a one off “big” qualifier against a team steaped in history. 6/7,000 clarets travelin. That’ll do me. If we lose, so what?

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon May 21, 2018 7:29 pm

Spijed wrote:And how many are postmen, goat herders, farmers, druids or nomads from the far reaches of Europe?

I can't be expected to know everything

Dy1geo · Post by **Dy1geo** » Mon May 21, 2018 7:33 pm

Looking at the seedings etc in round 2 unless we draw a Scottish side there are not that many “attractive” away ties. However if we get to play off round and the games go as per the seedings given the teams listed at present there is only Besitkas that I wouldn’t fancy going to and I can see many fans “hoping” we get that far and that will be the one most decide to do the “away” leg.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Mon May 21, 2018 7:36 pm

Dyched wrote:Im not sure if its at all possible but Id be happy with just a one off “big” qualifier against a team steaped in history. 6/7,000 clarets travelin. That’ll do me. If we lose, so what?

Glasgow Rangers ?