Imploding Turtle wrote:You mean like Trump is?

Is that the same Trump that you predicted wouldn't last 5 minutes!?

Has he gone yet!?





I know you rarely leave The Turtle Bunker, but the last I heard he's still The President.

No Ney Never wrote:Let me see if I'm clear about the choices here.
Vote Lib Dems, vote to remain in the EU.
Vote Cons, vote to leave the EU deal or no deal.
Vote Labour, vote ????. What exactly would I be voting for? Anybody know?

There'll be an election campaign. I suggest you pay attention during it.

Shall we have sweep on how many times Ringo will type "drain the swamp" between now and 9th/10th/11th/12th* December.


*delete as applicable

Lancasterclaret wrote:I mean, you've proved time and time again that your interest isn't in facts.

its in what you want to believe.

I mean, what kind of saddo lies to get on the radio?

And knowing that it clearly irks the sad little gaggle of remoaners, I'll carry on doing it!

Grrrrrrr

RingoMcCartney wrote:General Election 2019 - Time to Drain The Swamp

No bigger Swamp dweller than the liar Johnson, sorry ditch dweller

Bloody hell theres some grumpy little remoaners on here today!

Cant think why?

RingoMcCartney wrote:And knowing that it clearly irks the sad little gaggle of remoaners, I'll carry on doing it!

Grrrrrrr

Why on earth would it irk me?

I just feel a bit sorry for you.

Why on earth do you have to lie about it anyway?

Last time I checked they want callers on who have "interesting" views and there is no doubt that defo your thing!

TheFamilyCat wrote:Shall we have sweep on how many times Ringo will type "drain the swamp" between now and 9th/10th/11th/12th* December.


*delete as applicable

I doubt it'll be that many, we know he doesn't like repeating himself.

Who are you voting for Alistair?

Of course if you vote for the wrong party, you might not get another one.

I've got through life pretty well so far without voting....apart from the once. A Lot of Iraqis didn't have my good fortune though.I hope you don't make the thred about you again!

TheFamilyCat wrote:Shall we have sweep on how many times Ringo will type "drain the swamp" between now and 9th/10th/11th/12th* December.


*delete as applicable

5 times already today.

The way he repeats the same phrases over and over reminds me of how a group of other people would repeat things like "blood and soil", "jews will not replace us" and "sieg heil" over and over.

I think it's a coping mechanism for him to only repeat politically correct stuff. At least until he gets the kind of government he wants.

Lancasterclaret wrote:Why on earth would it irk me?

I just feel a bit sorry for you.

Why on earth do you have to lie about it anyway?

Last time I checked they want callers on who have "interesting" views and there is no doubt that defo your thing!

Grrrrrr

And more of the gaggle show up!

Imploding Turtle wrote:There'll be an election campaign. I suggest you pay attention during it.

Not sure how helpful that will be. The problem with election campaigns are the things they say they'll do but don't once in power, as well as what they don't say but end up doing.

Lancasterclaret wrote:I mean, you've proved time and time again that your interest isn't in facts.

its in what you want to believe.

I mean, what kind of saddo lies to get on the radio?

He lied to get on the radio? I need to see that post.

LoveCurryPies wrote:Who are you voting for Alistair?

It's Alastair, btw!

Imploding Turtle wrote:5 times already today.

The way he repeats the same phrases over and over reminds me of how a group of other people would repeat things like "blood and soil", "jews will not replace us" and "sieg heil" over and over.

I think it's a coping mechanism for him to only repeat politically correct stuff. At least until he gets the kind of government he wants.

I know it's only Tuesday but your certainly in with a fighting chance of Hysterical Hissy fit post of the week





Genuine question.

Of all the things you've lost imploding Turtle, is your mind the thing you miss the most?

Aww, Ringo came up with a joke all by himself almost.

And turtle almost came up with an answer.

Have a great afternoon ladies.

Stand down everyone.

Sounds like its all going tits up in the commons

Nicholas Watt
@nicholaswatt
Senior Labour figure tells me: don’t assume this election is definitely on. Big push by some Labour whips for party to vote against programme motion, hoping that Boris Johnson would pull the bill at that point

Labour voter here and will be voting for Jeremy Corbyn. However, I think all in the Labour camp are fully aware that we're unlikely to achieve much with this election. The party has been too undecided on Brexit and that is going to cost us dearly.

I expect that Jeremy Corbyn will step down immediately after the election. I'm very hopeful that Sir Keir Starmer will take the reins and totally re-structure the front bench.

No Ney Never wrote:Let me see if I'm clear about the choices here.
Vote Lib Dems, vote to remain in the EU.
Vote Cons, vote to leave the EU deal or no deal.
Vote Labour, vote ????. What exactly would I be voting for? Anybody know?

A dickhead leader...of a dickhead party....if your a dickhead go ahead and give them your vote.

I’ve voted once. Never again. Proved to be the shambles I always knew it was.

Why anyone would waste the energy is beyond me.

Politics in this country in particular is embarrassing. Although expect in the next ten years it will be shaken up massively by the youth.

cricketfieldclarets wrote:I’ve voted once. Never again. Proved to be the shambles I always knew it was.

Why anyone would waste the energy is beyond me.

Politics in this country in particular is embarrassing. Although expect in the next ten years it will be shaken up massively by the youth.

Maybe if people voted instead of just whining things might change.

Imploding Turtle wrote:Maybe if people voted instead of just whining things might change.

Lancasterclaret wrote:Stand down everyone.

Sounds like its all going tits up in the commons

Who knew that Labour would start playing games again.

RingoMcCartney wrote:Being honest I couldn't give a monkeys what you think.

I'm looking forward to seeing the faces of a large number of MPs who were elected on manifestos by the constituents in good faith. Who then did their best to do exactly what their manifesto pledge had said. As it finally dawns on them that the People have caught up with these duplicitous snakes via the thing they've been running away from.

The Ballot box.


Seeing Dominic Greive and Soubrey as the results are announced will be an early xmas present.

Cant wait.

I've read this repeatedly and still can't work out what Ringo is talking about. Can someone help me out?

Is he looking forward to seeing the faces of MPs who did their best to enact their manifesto pledges (although this doesn't tally with Ringo getting all upset with Labour MPs enacting their manifesto pledge of preventing a No Deal Brexit so it can't be that)?

Are the MPs who did their best to do what their manifesto pledge said the duplicitous snakes? Are they Greive and Soubrey [sic] as he wants to see their faces?

Get interested again, looking on again.

Gosh, this is exciting isn't it?

RMutt wrote:Punitive? The poor pay proportionally more of their income in tax than the rich. They don’t have the option to pay accountants, tax advisers or to join evasion/ avoidance schemes. Or of course the ability to leave the country to live in a tax haven. Yet, it is not the avoiders that get your criticism, it the politicians trying to get them to pay their fair share and support their countries instead. Rather than taking the ‘ pragmatic’ route, why don’t we as a nation take them on and stop tax being a dirty word?

Because the poor would end up paying more tax or the country would get more into debt and the poor would shoulder the burden of the necessary spending cuts.

The politicians who would put this burden on the poor do indeed get my criticism.

jrgbfc wrote:As opposed to staying in the country and dodging tax anyway through offshore schemes/expensive accountants.

Well yeah that's what they do but it's the same result - they dodge the tax (legally) and the burden falls, one way or another, onto somebody poorer.

Lots of glum looking faces on the Labour benches.

Rowls wrote:Because the poor would end up paying more tax or the country would get more into debt and the poor would shoulder the burden of the necessary spending cuts.

The politicians who would put this burden on the poor do indeed get my criticism.

That’s what I’m calling the ‘ pragmatic’ approach. If you genuinely want to help poorer members of society, why not give up your Mail, Sun, Telegraph agenda and help to redress the balance by supporting people who want the rich to understand how they can help society by paying their tax? Like l say, stop tax being a dirty word.

RingoMcCartney wrote:Time to drain the swamp

don't suppose you could pull the plug while you're down there...

cricketfieldclarets wrote:I’ve voted once. Never again. Proved to be the shambles I always knew it was.

Why anyone would waste the energy is beyond me.

Politics in this country in particular is embarrassing. Although expect in the next ten years it will be shaken up massively by the youth.

There are many who don’t want you to vote. (I don’t know your political leanings)

You need to watch ‘The Great Hack’ on Netflix.

cricketfieldclarets wrote:I’ve voted once. Never again. Proved to be the shambles I always knew it was.

Why anyone would waste the energy is beyond me.

Politics in this country in particular is embarrassing. Although expect in the next ten years it will be shaken up massively by the youth.

If what you're saying turns out to be true then the country will move further to the left as the youth graduate from their left wing indoctrination factories, otherwise known as universities.

Robert Peston
✔
@Peston
Government is now threatening to pull the general-election bill if Labour insists on amendment to enfranchise 3.4m EU citizens. It all gets crazier

gandhisflipflop wrote:If what you're saying turns out to be true then the country will move further to the left as the youth graduate from their left wing indoctrination factories, otherwise known as universities.

You've clearly never been anywhere near further education Gandhi!

Loving the idea that lecturers tell you what to do and everyone goes "Yeah, thats right"

cricketfieldclarets wrote:I’ve voted once. Never again. Proved to be the shambles I always knew it was.

Why anyone would waste the energy is beyond me.

Politics in this country in particular is embarrassing. Although expect in the next ten years it will be shaken up massively by the youth.

I vote, but I can fully understand why some people don't bother & a valid argument exists your way with abstaining.

gandhisflipflop wrote:If what you're saying turns out to be true then the country will move further to the left as the youth graduate from their left wing indoctrination factories, otherwise known as universities.

Universities teach students to think critically. If you think that critical thinking = left-wing indoctrination then it really says a lot about your views of what it means to be right-wing.

Spijed wrote:Robert Peston
✔
@Peston
Government is now threatening to pull the general-election bill if Labour insists on amendment to enfranchise 3.4m EU citizens. It all gets crazier

But i thought Boris wanted an election? Is he running scared?

gandhisflipflop wrote:If what you're saying turns out to be true then the country will move further to the left as the youth graduate from their left wing indoctrination factories, otherwise known as universities.

I meet lots of young people and I’m quite surprised by how balanced they are in assessing the political scene. Perhaps I shouldn’t be surprised because they have access to so much more information than we the older generations did.

They’ve also not forgotten Corbyn promised (or seemed to be promising) to return to free university places, and then after the election revealed they wouldn’t have been able to afford that.

RingoMcCartney wrote:Jo Swinsons family business recently received 3.5 million euros from the EU.

FACT

I wonder if they put some of that loot into an illiberal anti Democrats election campaign push?

It’s not Jo Swinson’s ‘family business’ though is it. It’s an international organisation that her husband works for that won’t lose its funding just because the uk leaves the EU.

LoveCurryPies wrote:I meet lots of young people and I’m quite surprised by how balanced they are in assessing the political scene. Perhaps I shouldn’t be surprised because they have access to so much more information than we the older generations did.

They’ve also not forgotten Corbyn promised (or seemed to be promising) to return to free university places, and then after the election revealed they wouldn’t have been able to afford that.

If you want proof that younger generations punish broken promises just look at the Lib Dem election tallies in 2010 and then 2015.

Older generations don't seem to punish broken promises like that.

Lancasterclaret wrote:You've clearly never been anywhere near further education Gandhi!

That's where you're wrong. It's just my opinion based on my life experience, observations and attitudes to a different point of view. I've seen similar in a few papers recently too.

LoveCurryPies wrote: They’ve also not forgotten Corbyn promised (or seemed to be promising) to return to free university places, and then after the election revealed they wouldn’t have been able to afford that.

That's a good thing however it was common sense really at the time though.

gandhisflipflop wrote:If what you're saying turns out to be true then the country will move further to the left as the youth graduate from their left wing indoctrination factories, otherwise known as universities.

I don’t think there will be a left and right as we know it. I think massive changes are coming. Not tomorrow. But in this next generation.

Our current system couldn’t be more alien to our youth. In fact it’s not even something that most of my generation buy into. Clearly. Given the stats.

Imploding Turtle wrote:If you want proof that younger generations punish broken promises just look at the Lib Dem election tallies in 2010 and then 2015.

Older generations don't seem to punish broken promises like that.

They do but in a more subtle way, a wiser way, you tend to vote usually the same as your parents so the next generation punish it's just not as noticeable that's all.

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