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Bentaleb

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:07 pm

Looks like he is off to Newcastle on loan. Been injured this season but would be a fantastic signing for them If he is now fit.

Definitely players out there.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by Longsidelenny » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:28 pm

I know he is championship but we need to have a look at Jed Wallace millwall he is decent great win yesterday up the clarets

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:48 pm

Millwall look good at the minute.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:03 pm

Been dropped to the reserve side twice in recent times, according to the papers.

From what I remember of him at Spurs, with him being a technically able midfielder with a strong physical presence, I'd like him. But there may be questions over his attitude and/ or application.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:49 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:03 pm
Been dropped to the reserve side twice in recent times, according to the papers.

From what I remember of him at Spurs, with him being a technically able midfielder with a strong physical presence, I'd like him. But there may be questions over his attitude and/ or application.
Yep that’s his style. And still only 25 could be a gamble worth taking especially on loan.

He has had an injury and fell out with the manager since. But has been a crucial player for schalke last season.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by tim_noone » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:00 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:49 pm
Yep that’s his style. And still only 25 could be a gamble worth taking especially on loan.

He has had an injury and fell out with the manager since. But has been a crucial player for schalke last season.
On Loan?

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by bobinho » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:03 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:07 pm
Looks like he is off to Newcastle on loan. Been injured this season but would be a fantastic signing for them If he is now fit.

Definitely players out there.
We know there are players out there. And you know what our policy is regarding players coming in in January, so what is your point?
Your “peace offering” of a positive post the other day hasnt lasted very long has it?

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:17 pm

bobinho wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:03 pm
We know there are players out there. And you know what our policy is regarding players coming in in January, so what is your point?
Your “peace offering” of a positive post the other day hasnt lasted very long has it?
What planet are you on?

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by Burnley1989 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:19 pm

There’s been some really bizarre reactions to posts recently on here.
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by tim_noone » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:22 pm

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:51 pm

bobinho wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:03 pm
We know there are players out there. And you know what our policy is regarding players coming in in January, so what is your point?
Your “peace offering” of a positive post the other day hasnt lasted very long has it?
CC goes to all the games, he is more than entitled to his opinion and most are positive imho. I don't know what the **** is going on on here recently, people cant have an opinion regardless of what it is. No wonder people are leaving - real shame.
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by Buxtonclaret » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:56 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:22 pm
Freemason
What did Mason do?
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by tim_noone » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:09 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:56 pm
What did Mason do?
Fraud.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by bobinho » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:47 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:51 pm
CC goes to all the games, he is more than entitled to his opinion and most are positive imho. I don't know what the **** is going on on here recently, people cant have an opinion regardless of what it is. No wonder people are leaving - real shame.
I go to all the games, so by your reasoning I am more than entitled to my opinion which in this case is to call out yet another (no matter how thinly veiled it may be) dig at the club - and that’s what it is - because we aren’t interested in yet another player that is suddenly available.

We have explained our transfer policy, constantly challenging it helps no one. Certainly doesn’t help the atmosphere either on here or on the ground... negativity is poison and it spreads like a wildfire, and I’m tired of reading it AND hearing it. If people are leaving the board, it won’t be because people AREN’T knocking the club for doing things “our way”, it will be for other reasons. Whether you like it or not, I see that as “fair enough”.

Anyway, I wasn’t intending this to degrade into a slanging match, so I’ll leave it there and try my best to enjoy what we have at the moment, whilst remembering how and why we find ourselves in this wonderful position.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by TsarBomba » Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:00 am

bobinho wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:47 am
I go to all the games, so by your reasoning I am more than entitled to my opinion which in this case is to call out yet another (no matter how thinly veiled it may be) dig at the club - and that’s what it is - because we aren’t interested in yet another player that is suddenly available.

We have explained our transfer policy, constantly challenging it helps no one. Certainly doesn’t help the atmosphere either on here or on the ground... negativity is poison and it spreads like a wildfire, and I’m tired of reading it AND hearing it. If people are leaving the board, it won’t be because people AREN’T knocking the club for doing things “our way”, it will be for other reasons. Whether you like it or not, I see that as “fair enough”.

Anyway, I wasn’t intending this to degrade into a slanging match, so I’ll leave it there and try my best to enjoy what we have at the moment, whilst remembering how and why we find ourselves in this wonderful position.
And equally, you could argue that the negativity emanating from the club every transfer window doesn’t help the atmosphere either.

I accept that we find it difficult to compete financially. But, I don’t need to be reminded every 6 months that we don’t have a pot to **** in.
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:25 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:19 pm
There’s been some really bizarre reactions to posts recently on here.
Yeah, it now appears suggesting players we could possibly attempt to sign isn't allowed either :roll:
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:51 pm

bobinho wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:47 am
I go to all the games, so by your reasoning I am more than entitled to my opinion which in this case is to call out yet another (no matter how thinly veiled it may be) dig at the club - and that’s what it is - because we aren’t interested in yet another player that is suddenly available.

We have explained our transfer policy, constantly challenging it helps no one. Certainly doesn’t help the atmosphere either on here or on the ground... negativity is poison and it spreads like a wildfire, and I’m tired of reading it AND hearing it. If people are leaving the board, it won’t be because people AREN’T knocking the club for doing things “our way”, it will be for other reasons. Whether you like it or not, I see that as “fair enough”.

Anyway, I wasn’t intending this to degrade into a slanging match, so I’ll leave it there and try my best to enjoy what we have at the moment, whilst remembering how and why we find ourselves in this wonderful position.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion (with which I agree with most of), however I see no difference in a person calling out the club based on their perceived view to you calling out that person based on your perceived view. Also no interest in a slanging match :D

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by houseboy » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:56 pm

bobinho wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:03 pm
We know there are players out there. And you know what our policy is regarding players coming in in January, so what is your point?
Your “peace offering” of a positive post the other day hasnt lasted very long has it?
Just wondering about your reply mate. What exactly has he done wrong in his post? I know CFC comes in for some stick on here but I find no problem at all with what he said. Are you seeing negativity where it doesn't exist?
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by houseboy » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:58 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:56 pm
What did Mason do?
Apparently the same as Jehova except there were no witnesses.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:59 pm

Confirmed as gone to Newcastle on loan.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by houseboy » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:02 pm

bobinho wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:47 am
I go to all the games, so by your reasoning I am more than entitled to my opinion which in this case is to call out yet another (no matter how thinly veiled it may be) dig at the club - and that’s what it is - because we aren’t interested in yet another player that is suddenly available.

We have explained our transfer policy, constantly challenging it helps no one. Certainly doesn’t help the atmosphere either on here or on the ground... negativity is poison and it spreads like a wildfire, and I’m tired of reading it AND hearing it. If people are leaving the board, it won’t be because people AREN’T knocking the club for doing things “our way”, it will be for other reasons. Whether you like it or not, I see that as “fair enough”.

Anyway, I wasn’t intending this to degrade into a slanging match, so I’ll leave it there and try my best to enjoy what we have at the moment, whilst remembering how and why we find ourselves in this wonderful position.
I thinkyou should stop digging that hole mate, really. CFC said absolutely NOTHING wrong in his post and only you are making out he did by now saying it was 'thinly veiled'. It was so thinly veiled no one else saw it.
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by Burnley1989 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:05 pm

I am so confused :lol:

It like when my Mrs has the painters and decorators, she seems to be mad at me when I've not done anything wrong
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:33 pm

bobinho wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:47 am
I go to all the games, so by your reasoning I am more than entitled to my opinion which in this case is to call out yet another (no matter how thinly veiled it may be) dig at the club - and that’s what it is - because we aren’t interested in yet another player that is suddenly available.

We have explained our transfer policy, constantly challenging it helps no one. Certainly doesn’t help the atmosphere either on here or on the ground... negativity is poison and it spreads like a wildfire, and I’m tired of reading it AND hearing it. If people are leaving the board, it won’t be because people AREN’T knocking the club for doing things “our way”, it will be for other reasons. Whether you like it or not, I see that as “fair enough”.

Anyway, I wasn’t intending this to degrade into a slanging match, so I’ll leave it there and try my best to enjoy what we have at the moment, whilst remembering how and why we find ourselves in this wonderful position.
In what way was it a dig at the club? Unless you are Uber paranoid?

If you look at any of my posts this week. Almost all positive.

And those that aren’t. This week or prior are almost always realistic. Although not always serious.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:34 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:00 am
And equally, you could argue that the negativity emanating from the club every transfer window doesn’t help the atmosphere either.

I accept that we find it difficult to compete financially. But, I don’t need to be reminded every 6 months that we don’t have a pot to **** in.
Absolutely spot on. As is the lack of a joined up message from board and manager.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:38 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:05 pm
I am so confused :lol:

It like when my Mrs has the painters and decorators, she seems to be mad at me when I've not done anything wrong
What would you like for tea love, I can either cook your favourite pasta dish or book us into that Thai you like?!

‘What do you mean you are going to Budapest for the weekend on a stag do?’

I’ll do you a pot noodle darling....
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by Burnley1989 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:58 pm

I grow up with a mum & 3 sisters, I could look at one of them and have all 4 of them screaming at me for it.

I learnt from an early age that when women live together they all end up in sync with each other’s cycle. For 1 week a month, Baghdad would have been a safer place to live.
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by bobinho » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:58 pm

Looks like I may have seen something that wasn’t there. No one else saw it, so I accept there was nothing there.

You wrote “Definitely players out there.”

I finished your sentence with “so why aren’t we linked with this type of player?”

Not my intention to start a barney, but what with all the negativity recently, it looks like I misconstrued your remark and answered a question you never asked.

My apologies CFC.
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:07 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:58 pm

I learnt from an early age that when women live together they all end up in sync with each other’s cycle.
This is actually true.
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:08 pm

bobinho wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:58 pm
Looks like I may have seen something that wasn’t there. No one else saw it, so I accept there was nothing there.

You wrote “Definitely players out there.”

I finished your sentence with “so why aren’t we linked with this type of player?”

Not my intention to start a barney, but what with all the negativity recently, it looks like I misconstrued your remark and answered a question you never asked.

My apologies CFC.
No drama.

If anything it’s a dig at the window. Not the club.
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by rob63 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:05 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:25 am
Yeah, it now appears suggesting players we could possibly attempt to sign isn't allowed either :roll:
Nobody will do that on here now following the dog's abuse we got for suggesting possible names in the last 2 or 3 windows.......

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by bfcmik » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:20 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:51 pm
No wonder people are leaving - real shame.
The reason people are leaving, if they are, is because every half decent thread degenerates into a slanging match between a couple of posters. Not always the same ones but generally from small cadre of posters that think belligerence and denigration is the best way to prove their point
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Re: Bentaleb

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by tiger76 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:07 pm

I don't know much about him apart from the fact he had spells at both Newcastle and Spurs, however if he's available on a free we could do a lot worse for midfield options, wages could be a problem though as is often the case.

At least it's a promising sign that we're actually being linked to players for a change, now of course whether we manage to get any potential deals over the line will be the crux of the matter for our new board.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:23 pm

His wages are apparently over £80k a week.

Yes there's player's out there that will fit within our wage structure, but he was never going to be one of them unfortunately.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by DCWat » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:44 pm

I’m sure it’s probably been posted before, but what is the current weekly estimate for our higher earners including survival bonus?

Are we a million miles from £80k per week or somewhere in the same ballpark?

If the article is correct, he’s out of contract and looking to rebuild his career after injury and disciplinary problems. He may therefore not be able to expect anything like that sort of weekly wage.

I recognise the name but don’t recall anything about him as a player..... What sort of midfielder is he?

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by superdimitri » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:10 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:23 pm
His wages are apparently over £80k a week.

Yes there's player's out there that will fit within our wage structure, but he was never going to be one of them unfortunately.
Pretty sure Mee will be on over 70,000 with bonuses. It's doable but negotiating is harder of course.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by jojomk1 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:00 am

brunlea99 wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:54 pm
Linked again.

https://www.spurs-web.com/spurs-news/re ... -transfer/
The article says:-
A few wasted years (injury and, importantly, discipline) plus an unsuccessful loan at Newcastle

Not a good cv although looked promising when first broke into Spurs side - but the same could be said of the likes of Ravel Morrison at Man Utd, and we know how that turned out
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:42 am

superdimitri wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:10 am
Pretty sure Mee will be on over 70,000 with bonuses. It's doable but negotiating is harder of course.
"with bonuses"...

If you have a nosey around online, the general consensus is that Mee is our top earner on approx £55k a week basic, give or take a little.
He's our highest earning player, club captain etc.

To justify a higher wage for Bentaleb he'd need to have the same influence as a fit Defour as a minimum, with better fitness levels.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:43 am

DCWat wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:44 pm
I’m sure it’s probably been posted before, but what is the current weekly estimate for our higher earners including survival bonus?

Are we a million miles from £80k per week or somewhere in the same ballpark?

If the article is correct, he’s out of contract and looking to rebuild his career after injury and disciplinary problems. He may therefore not be able to expect anything like that sort of weekly wage.

I recognise the name but don’t recall anything about him as a player..... What sort of midfielder is he?
Bonuses change each season due to final league position being in there along with staying up.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:03 am

We dont need any crocks .Robbie Brady has taught us that lesson.Personally, I feel we need to do a serious assessment of our U23 squad and release any that aren't progressing.Any that look like stepping up we give new contracts to and promote them to the first team pool. Our big issue this year has been the lack of serious playing time for our U23 subs,this needs addressing.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by IanMcL » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:04 am

Bentaleb sounds like something on a pharmacy shelf!
Cold, flu, hay fever relief?
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:12 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:03 am
We dont need any crocks .Robbie Brady has taught us that lesson.Personally, I feel we need to do a serious assessment of our U23 squad and release any that aren't progressing.Any that look like stepping up we give new contracts to and promote them to the first team pool. Our big issue this year has been the lack of serious playing time for our U23 subs,this needs addressing.

Shall we bench Wood on Sunday and start Richardson ?
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by steve1264b » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:33 am

African players would be a gamble for us, there is talk of the african nations reverting back to its post christmas slot 2022 so he would miss quite a few weeks.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by warksclaret » Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:18 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:03 am
We dont need any crocks .Robbie Brady has taught us that lesson.Personally, I feel we need to do a serious assessment of our U23 squad and release any that aren't progressing.Any that look like stepping up we give new contracts to and promote them to the first team pool. Our big issue this year has been the lack of serious playing time for our U23 subs,this needs addressing.
Totally agree-JBG is also in that camp, and to be honest when he starts for us he plays right wing and its like playing with 10 men. On another post recently my rough calcs showed Brady, in terms of game time is costing us £4000 a minute-by comparison Westwood is less than an eight of this

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by NewClaret » Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:21 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:42 am
"with bonuses"...

If you have a nosey around online, the general consensus is that Mee is our top earner on approx £55k a week basic, give or take a little.
He's our highest earning player, club captain etc.

To justify a higher wage for Bentaleb he'd need to have the same influence as a fit Defour as a minimum, with better fitness levels.
I did read last night he took a voluntary pay cut at Shalke so maybe closer than we think. Although agree with you that he'd need to have Defour-like influence to even justify earning the same as the captain.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by aggi » Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:24 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:23 pm
His wages are apparently over £80k a week.

Yes there's player's out there that will fit within our wage structure, but he was never going to be one of them unfortunately.
That's pretty similar to what plenty of our players will be getting. It may be that it would be a lower basic but with higher bonuses but for a player with his record that's what most clubs would be offering anyway.

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by NewClaret » Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:24 am

He's a good player but with disciplinary issues and an injury record, I can't see it being true. Only believable part about it is him being free :lol:

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by bobinho » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:19 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:07 pm
Looks like he is off to Newcastle on loan. Been injured this season but would be a fantastic signing for them If he is now fit.

Definitely players out there.

Seems that phrase gets quite a bit of use... :roll:

The summer break will tell us what we need to know. Until then, we all know we go with what we have.
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Re: Bentaleb

Post by bobinho » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:24 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:03 am
We dont need any crocks .Robbie Brady has taught us that lesson.Personally, I feel we need to do a serious assessment of our U23 squad and release any that aren't progressing.Any that look like stepping up we give new contracts to and promote them to the first team pool. Our big issue this year has been the lack of serious playing time for our U23 subs,this needs addressing.
Certainly does need addressing.... if they are good enough to warrant being given serious playing time. If they aren’t deemed quite ready yet, then they are best left where they are until PL football is assured.

Incidentally, the approach you are suggesting I thought was exactly the way things are done...is it not?

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Re: Bentaleb

Post by ClaretMov » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:46 am

Bad attitude

Bad disciplinary record

Bad injury record

Crap over the last few season's

Do we need another centre midfielder

Wage to high, €87,000 euros per week

No thanks
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