BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER/AUTUMN 2020 (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

[MACCA]

Didn’t want him anyway mate.

Funny how our £15m bid was rejected before Sheffield United’s £10m bid!

To be fair our 15m bid was in weekly 50p installments...

[welsbyswife]

Every season the transfer topic thread starts with people trying to limit it to serious rumours only with links. It soon descends into chaos with no one behaving according to the rules of the game. Very similar to the nation's response to Covid 19. Hopeless.

[BenWickes]

Every season the transfer topic thread starts with people trying to limit it to serious rumours only with links. It soon descends into chaos with no one behaving according to the rules of the game. Very similar to the nation's response to Covid 19. Hopeless.

I'm as guilty as anyone for responding on here but I get your point. Especially as there are threads for individual players linked elsewhere.

[IWOODLOVETT]

The Brownhill deal was so neat and straightforward - an agreement between two honest English clubs. The players both wanted the moves, the fees were right and everything fell sweetly into place.

Sadly this was a one off and things don’t happen like this with other clubs. Fog and smokescreens, agents creating fake news, foreign chairmen/managers involved, media stoking the pot, greedy players/agents/owners etc. etc.

There are some small signs that things are starting to change with footballers recognising that they need to be seen on the pitch to further their careers. Some are choosing life abroad and some are seeing a route to the top via the smaller clubs.

What really needs to change is to stop the trawling of promising talent, by clubs such as Chelsea, to be traded as a commodity. Won’t happen of course because the clubs are bigger than the football authorities.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Also probably helped Brownhill’s agent being from Burnley!

[NewClaret]

Has Gibson put in a formal transfer request yet? And if not then why not?

As I understand, contracts have clauses that impact players financially if they hand in transfer requests (e.g. they may not be paid any of this year’s performance bonus, lose loyalty bonus, or %’s of future transfer fees they may have been due.

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

Was the Brownhill deal not aided by them needing the money?
There will be many more decent players on the market for the same reason.

[NewClaret]

To be fair our 15m bid was in weekly 50p installments...

At least he’s getting the message that the bids need to be higher. Just need to work on the period over which they are paid now....

[ŽižkovClaret]

As I understand, contracts have clauses that impact players financially if they hand in transfer requests (e.g. they may not be paid any of this year’s performance bonus, lose loyalty bonus, or %’s of future transfer fees they may have been due.

I'd bloody hope Gibson gets little or no bonus from this season, bloody hell

[NewClaret]

I'd bloody hope Gibson gets little or no bonus from this season, bloody hell

I don't know, but I'd imagine their contracts are made up of appearance bonus' and a team final position bonus, for which clearly he wouldn't benefit from the former but would the latter.

[AfloatinClaret]

I don't know, but I'd imagine their contracts are made up of appearance bonus' and a team final position bonus, for which clearly he wouldn't benefit from the former but would the latter.

Very likely. At one stage of my working career I was a freelance Project Manager, specialising in construction contracts which were in trouble. On one where the underlying problem/fault had been with the original in-house Project Manager (allegedly incompetent/bone-idle and with an increasing taste for the drink) he was sacked by the Company; I never met the guy, so couldn't comment on the drinking, but he'd certainly been incompetent and the job was almost 3 months behind programme, with money being poured down the drain when I came onboard. I was on the project for a bit over five months during which we managed to turn things around, only finishing about three weeks late and even making a few quid profit. The original Manager however, made a claim for 'unfair dismissal' and though he lost the claim, the Employment Tribunal did find in his favour with regard to the completion bonus, that'd been included his contract. The Tribunal held that his 'having failed to contribute to, indeed having likely impaired' the projects profitability and completion was an irrelevance; the project had ultimately been profitable and he was therefore entitled to the profit-share element of the bonus.

[Newcastleclaret93]

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/sport/1862 ... brannagan/

[burnmark]

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/sport/1862 ... brannagan/

Just about to post but Newcastle has beaten me to it. Boden says we have an interest in the player.

[FeedTheArf]

Burnley linked with Josh King

According to the telegraph

Loved the fact that when Lancs Live were discussing whether Rovers may have a sell-on clause they actually quoted Football Manager

[blake's wand]

Would really like Josh King - seems good value at £15m as well. Not sure he'd want to come here though and be 3rd/4th choice

[Hedontplayforyou]

Would really like Josh King - seems good value at £15m as well. Not sure he'd want to come here though and be 3rd/4th choice

That’s alright, as we aren’t actually linked with him.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Linked with king in the telegraph

[Newcastleclaret93]

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/t ... ssion=true

[MDWat]

King will be paid way more than we pay.

[ksrclaret]

I like the link with the Oxford lad. It's been obvious for some time that we can no longer go after the best Championship players as their prices have skyrocketed over the last few years, so looking a level below that for players with the potential to step up is the right way to go. They can come in, learn the style from within the group and then hopefully step up when a gap in the eleven opens up due to injury, loss of form or the sale of a player.

[mdd2]

They would need a five year contract to get up to speed from Division One

[BenWickes]

Sounds promising actually...https://lastwordonfootball.com/2020/03/ ... brannagan/

[alboclaret]

Darren bent thinks we wont sign Joshua king

[Quickenthetempo]

Just been speaking with my Everton supporting dad and he says lots of talk at the Everton end we are interested in signing Fabien Delph.

Can't see it myself, but you never know.

[Socrates]

It's been obvious for some time that we can no longer go after the best Championship players as their prices have skyrocketed over the last few years

Our last 4 permanent signings, and 7 of our last 8, have - I think - been from Championship clubs.

All have been in the last two seasons. 4 signings a season.

[Grumps]

Darren bent thinks we wont sign Joshua king

Does he base that on his fee, wages, or skin colour?

[tiger76]

I like the link with the Oxford lad. It's been obvious for some time that we can no longer go after the best Championship players as their prices have skyrocketed over the last few years, so looking a level below that for players with the potential to step up is the right way to go. They can come in, learn the style from within the group and then hopefully step up when a gap in the eleven opens up due to injury, loss of form or the sale of a player.

I wouldn't say no to Cameron Brannagan, he fits the younger profile we should be looking at, and he came through Liverpool's youth system so he must have something about him, also he's entering the last year of his contract, so he shouldn't set us back too heavily, i'm not certain we can't afford the better Championship talent, but if we can pick a bargain or two up then all the better, Leeds are scouting Brannagan so we'll have to move sharpish if we want him.

[ClaretAL]

Do we really need another CM? I totally agree he looks the part but i think we have priorities elsewhere on the pitch that we need to spend what ever money Dyche has been given. For me file in the nice to have category who would probably spend the season on the bench.

[Woonderbah]

I'd bloody hope Gibson gets little or no bonus from this season, bloody hell

If Gibson's getting a bonus for throwing a strop then I want one too or I'll scream *stamps feet*

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

Just been speaking with my Everton supporting dad and he says lots of talk at the Everton end we are interested in signing Fabien Delph. Can't see it myself, but you never know.

30yo, good player fits the bill for us but already linked with a return to Leeds. I can see that one happening.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I think CM is one of our priority signings right now.

We currently have two fit CMs with cork injured.

Would be a cheap signing with low risk

[randomclaret2]

We already have a midfielder in his early 20s who came through Liverpool's Youth set up

[tiger76]

I think CM is one of our priority signings right now.

We currently have two fit CMs with cork injured.

Would be a cheap signing with low risk

Exactly! we might get lucky and Brownhill, Cork & Westwood might be injury free all season, but that's taking a big gamble, and even if this lad from Oxford doesn't play much next season, both Cork & Westwood are ooc in 2021, so it wouldn't do us any harm in getting potential replacements in ASAP, and we need young legs in the middle of the park, Brownhill looks a decent addition, but if we can pick up Brannagan for a nominal fee then why not get him in.

[Hedontplayforyou]

We 100% need another central midfield player . I agree this could be a low risk signing if we did capture Brannagan , but could we perhaps push for a starter in this position? I think we will see Brownhill on the right when all are fit , despite his performances since Cork got injured . So our need for another midfielder is all the more .

[mdd2]

Maybe if we are interested, a good opinion of the club from Dan Agyei, if he has one, would help us

[Newcastleclaret93]

Not a Burnley link but looks like Hendrick is off to villa or Newcastle.

Seems a strange one to me. I don’t think he gets in either of there teams.

[COBBLE]

Not a Burnley link but looks like Hendrick is off to villa or Newcastle.

Seems a strange one to me. I don’t think he gets in either of there teams.

That's fine, It makes our opponents next season, lets say beatable.

[Quickenthetempo]

Palace have bid for Eze today with the first one starting at 12m.

[rob63]

Just been speaking with my Everton supporting dad and he says lots of talk at the Everton end we are interested in signing Fabien Delph.

Can't see it myself, but you never know.

Wasn't he another player who was reputed to be on £100kpw when he moved from Citeh?

[NewClaret]

Palace have bid for Eze today with the first one starting at 12m.

Good player. I was wondering today where he’d be going. Zaha replacement I assume?

[NewClaret]

Not a Burnley link but looks like Hendrick is off to villa or Newcastle.

Seems a strange one to me. I don’t think he gets in either of there teams.

Report I read said Newcastle “had been offered Hendrick” not that they were interested Bet he’s been offered to every club in the last month!

Do think Villa, Leeds, Newcastle or Celtic are most likely destinations. Don’t think playing time is his or his agents primary motivation or he’d have stayed at the club where his manager loved him.

[Quickenthetempo]

Wasn't he another player who was reputed to be on £100kpw when he moved from Citeh?

Not sure but
I don't think City pay first team players 20k a week.

[Quickenthetempo]

Report I read said Newcastle “had been offered Hendrick” not that they were interested Bet he’s been offered to every club in the last month!

Do think Villa, Leeds, Newcastle or Celtic are most likely destinations. Don’t think playing time is his or his agents primary motivation or he’d have stayed at the club where his manager loved him.

It doesn't look like he got good advice from his agent. He will most likely have to lower his wage demands.

[BenWickes]

We 100% need another central midfield player . I agree this could be a low risk signing if we did capture Brannagan , but could we perhaps push for a starter in this position? I think we will see Brownhill on the right when all are fit , despite his performances since Cork got injured . So our need for another midfielder is all the more .

I'd agree we need another midfielder. Be it a box to box, defensive (my preference) or a creative one. We have a capable midfield but we are lacking a Barton/Kante type player. Someone who can put their foot on the ball, drive forward, read the game, sweep up those breaks more efficiently, sweep up our mistakes, play the simple but effective ball. It also allows us more options in midfield. I have never been a fan of having players who know their place is a dead cert. They need their places to be challenged so they're hungry to get into the starting XI.
Brownhill is no right winger. I'd be and I suspect he'd be a little underwhelmed if he is pushed out right. If we're starting 2020/21 with Bardsley/Lowton and Brownhill on the right we're going to be very predictable and very one sided again.

[ClaretAL]

Presuming from the feel for a need of a bench warming CM behind Cork Westwood and Brownhill, we are thinking that Benson is still not ready to fulfil that position, and we would rather opt for the lad from Oxford?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Presuming from the feel for a need of a bench warming CM behind Cork Westwood and Brownhill, we are thinking that Benson is still not ready to fulfil that position, and we would rather opt for the lad from Oxford?

I think that was made abundantly clear in the last 8 games of the season that none of the youth players apart from maybe Thompson or Richardson are even remotely close to the starting eleven.

[Firthy]

Palace have bid for Eze today with the first one starting at 12m.

Hope this isn't going to become a thread about other clubs putting bids in for every player we've been linked with or been mentioned on here by someone who thinks we should go for them.

[BenWickes]

Presuming from the feel for a need of a bench warming CM behind Cork Westwood and Brownhill, we are thinking that Benson is still not ready to fulfil that position, and we would rather opt for the lad from Oxford?

Brannagan has potential to step up. He's a few steps ahead of the likes of Benson. He has Premier League, League Cup and Europa League experience with Liverpool and almost 100 games league experience with Fleetwood and Oxford. Klopp reluctantly let him go because the lad wanted first team opportunities. Not easy to cement a first team place at the likes of Liverpool so he made a career choice.

[jojomk1]

Although he's not yet played many games I thought Brownhill's best performance was at Palace where he nullified Zaha and still contributed in going forward
I see him wide right putting in good performances like Hendrick/Arfield/JBG
We need to have a much stronger presence in CM (in terms of height, strength in tackle and ability to control the ball)
As good as Westwood and Cork have been they don't win the hard battles and get caught in possession far too often. They also lack the pace needed in today's type of game.
A starting CM would be the first buy for me

[Colburn_Claret]

Brownhill is a CM. He could do you a job on the right, but is far more effective in the middle.
Dwight is a LW, who could do you a job in the middle, but is far more effective whipping those crosses in from the left.

I'm happy for Brownhill to start in CM, he gets better all the time. Jack should be the back up. We have no need for a RW, unless JBG and Brady are going to have another injury prone season. So unless we get a younger version for the future it would be a waste of money.

A new, younger RB, and a replacement for Gibson is all we need. And unless we sell someone, it's all we can realistically afford.