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Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:40 pm
by Gordaleman
Steve1956 wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:38 pm
Takeover bid/ very risky....think I'd sooner stay plucky but shite,cant even see why the are intrested in a small northern town club,would be great if it worked but can we really trust our club with... American's ? 🤔
Better than certain Indians.

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:30 am
by jojomk1
Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:25 pm
We just have to trust Mr Garlick and I think he's got his head screwed on the right way. He won't sell us down the river, I'm sure of that.
He'll be sailing down that river with a lot of cash in his pocket ;)

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:39 am
by Whatsupdoc
Americans eye up Burnley for ‘Moneyball’ project

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/amer ... -hrndx5mdf

There’s your answer

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:57 am
by MACCA
Whatsupdoc wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:39 am
Americans eye up Burnley for ‘Moneyball’ project

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/amer ... -hrndx5mdf

There’s your answer

Well it's not, you've to pay to get past Mike Garlicks smiling face to any sort of news, report or write up.

Absolute rag of a paper

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:34 am
by RVclaret
Whatsupdoc wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:39 am
Americans eye up Burnley for ‘Moneyball’ project

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/amer ... -hrndx5mdf

There’s your answer
Post the full article in here if you may (or someone)

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:35 am
by Whatsupdoc
An American investment company has se its sights on turning Burnley into a Moneyball project.
ALK Capital has taken an interest in the Premier League club with a view to implementing a data and analytics driven blueprint for success.
It’s a model that Brentford have employed in recent seasons and one that was immortalised in the book Moneyball by Michael Lewis, in 2003, which charts the Oakland Athletics’ rise in baseball where they profited from spotting talent that other clubs failed to identify.
The Times understands no takeover of the Lancashire club is imminent but talks are taking place with the Burnley chairman,Mike Garlick, who owns a 49.2% interest in the club.
Sources claim that representatives of ALK have visited Burnley’s new training ground as part of their research.
Ironically given the frustrations do Sean Dyche, the manager, at the absence of investment in new players, it is the lack of major spending power that makes Burnley an attractive proposition for the US businessmen.
A well run and financially solid business with a reputation for careful fiscal management, Burnley are seen as the kind of club that could benefit from ALK’s expertise and connections in the business of scouting and analytics.
Alan Pace, managing partner of ALK capital, is a Wall Street executive who was also president of MLS club Real Salt Lake. Along with tha teams owner Dave Cheketts, he made an attempt to buy Sheffield United last season.

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:46 am
by ClaretAL
Guys, there is already a thread for the ALK takeover speculations, can we keep this to transfer speculation please.

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:53 am
by Bigvince
Whatsupdoc wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:35 am
An American investment company has se its sights on turning Burnley into a Moneyball project.
ALK Capital has taken an interest in the Premier League club with a view to implementing a data and analytics driven blueprint for success.
It’s a model that Brentford have employed in recent seasons and one that was immortalised in the book Moneyball by Michael Lewis, in 2003, which charts the Oakland Athletics’ rise in baseball where they profited from spotting talent that other clubs failed to identify.
The Times understands no takeover of the Lancashire club is imminent but talks are taking place with the Burnley chairman,Mike Garlick, who owns a 49.2% interest in the club.
Sources claim that representatives of ALK have visited Burnley’s new training ground as part of their research.
Ironically given the frustrations do Sean Dyche, the manager, at the absence of investment in new players, it is the lack of major spending power that makes Burnley an attractive proposition for the US businessmen.
A well run and financially solid business with a reputation for careful fiscal management, Burnley are seen as the kind of club that could benefit from ALK’s expertise and connections in the business of scouting and analytics.
Alan Pace, managing partner of ALK capital, is a Wall Street executive who was also president of MLS club Real Salt Lake. Along with tha teams owner Dave Cheketts, he made an attempt to buy Sheffield United last season.
Some may disagree, but I quite like the blueprint we’re working to now! 6 out of 11 years in the premier league. We must already be doing some things right. But if this potential investment were to move us up another level, it would be remiss of us not to consider their offer

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:13 pm
by ClaretAL
Leicester in for Tarky reportedly...


https://insidefutbol.com/2020/09/25/lei ... ki/474271/

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:17 pm
by Reecey1987
Some rumours about that Burnley will look to take #mufc Phil Jones on loan if they sell James Tarkowski.

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:19 pm
by randomclaret2
Reecey1987 wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:17 pm
Some rumours about that Burnley will look to take #mufc Phil Jones on loan if they sell James Tarkowski.
As referenced by Mr Waterhouse on the other thread

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:20 pm
by FactualFrank
Reecey1987 wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:17 pm
Some rumours about that Burnley will look to take #mufc Phil Jones on loan if they sell James Tarkowski.
I read that earlier today but thought it was a pisstake.

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:30 pm
by AshevilleNCClaret
Bigvince wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:53 am
Some may disagree, but I quite like the blueprint we’re working to now! 6 out of 11 years in the premier league. We must already be doing some things right. But if this potential investment were to move us up another level, it would be remiss of us not to consider their offer
I dont think the "moneyball" strategy would work here. Part of the moneyball strategy involved exploiting some of the rules of major league baseball, which dont exist in england.
Our style of play does flatter some players, specifically our defenders and goal keepers, which can lead to inflated transfer fees for them but isnt a long term business model.

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:40 pm
by Reecey1987
FactualFrank wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:20 pm
I read that earlier today but thought it was a pisstake.
Why would it be a **** take ?

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:43 pm
by FactualFrank
Reecey1987 wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:40 pm
Why would it be a **** take ?
Because it's Phil Jones.

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:44 pm
by randomclaret2
Jones hasnt played since January

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:45 pm
by Reecey1987
FactualFrank wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:43 pm
Because it's Phil Jones.
Just because he doesn't fit into united's team it doesn't mean he will be no good for us . I think he will suit our team more than theres

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:47 pm
by FactualFrank
Leicester's bid rejected.

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:49 pm
by ClaretAL

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:51 pm
by Vegas Claret
Reecey1987 wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:45 pm
Just because he doesn't fit into united's team it doesn't mean he will be no good for us . I think he will suit our team more than theres
"The Mirror reported one option for Jones was to undergo surgery. United are said to have decided against this as it would rule him out until 2021

The objective is to sell Jones, a player who played just two Premier League games this past season.

The problem is that Jones is not a very attractive buy for clubs right now either.

Jones presents a serious injury risk for teams looking to take him on. There is a very real chance he would fail a medical.

With it already suggested via the media that Jones would ideally have required an operation on his knee, teams will be fearful of signing him and sending him for surgery weeks later"

Hopefully that puts an end to that

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:53 pm
by summitclaret
Ok. What about Smalling then?

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:59 pm
by Vegas Claret
summitclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:53 pm
Ok. What about Smalling then?
Roma have offered 18million, United want 20 - plus he will be on huge wages

The only one we could possibly afford in terms of wages is the young right back Diogo Dalot who is on about 25-30K apparently, we wont pay the 18-20 million they want for him either though :lol:

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:03 pm
by Vegas Claret
summitclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:53 pm
Ok. What about Smalling then?
Roma have offered 18million, United want 20 - plus he will be on huge wages

The only one we could possibly afford in terms of wages is the young right back Diogo Dalot who is on about 25-30K apparently, we wont pay the 18-20 million they want for him either though :lol:

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:03 pm
by Woodleyclaret
We've got cbs already in Jimmy Dunne and Kev why on earth do we want dross like Jones and Smalling? both overrated a few years back now well past their sell by date

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:24 pm
by NewClaret
Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:03 pm
Roma have offered 18million, United want 20 - plus he will be on huge wages

The only one we could possibly afford in terms of wages is the young right back Diogo Dalot who is on about 25-30K apparently, we wont pay the 18-20 million they want for him either though :lol:
Could do a deal involving Tarks given the sell on clause though.

Smalling is on £70k so not massively off the mark for us and assume part of his wages could be funded by United. Roma do want him but have only offered £12m last time I looked and I suppose it depends whether he wants to play abroad given the current travel/quarantine restrictions.

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:24 pm
by KefkaClaret
We can't go into a season with Long as a starter.

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:27 pm
by randomclaret2
Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:03 pm
We've got cbs already in Jimmy Dunne and Kev why on earth do we want dross like Jones and Smalling? both overrated a few years back now well past their sell by date
:lol:

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:28 pm
by jrgbfc
Phil Jones would be great in our defensive setup.

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:33 pm
by Granny WeatherWax
Reecey1987 wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:45 pm
Just because he doesn't fit into united's team it doesn't mean he will be no good for us . I think he will suit our team more than theres
My home and away united supporting mate says Phil Jones is the worst player he’s seen at United :D

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:20 pm
by KateR
I think we can forget Jones and Smalling to be honest

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54301297

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:27 pm
by FactualFrank
KateR wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:20 pm
I think we can forget Jones and Smalling to be honest

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54301297
That link is just showing what was covered earlier?

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:36 pm
by CFS
KefkaClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:24 pm
We can't go into a season with Long as a starter.
We already have.

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:48 pm
by KateR
FactualFrank wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:27 pm
That link is just showing what was covered earlier?
maybe, but it didn't stop the posts about Jones and Smalling whatever was covered earlier did it lol, I was tired of keep coming here and seeing it so thought I'd try again, it may or may not stop that discussion but hopefully you're not to upset by my little link post ;)

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:18 pm
by Taffy on the wing
NewClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:24 pm


Could do a deal involving Tarks given the sell on clause though.

Smalling is on £70k so not massively off the mark for us and assume part of his wages could be funded by United. Roma do want him but have only offered £12m last time I looked and I suppose it depends whether he wants to play abroad given the current travel/quarantine restrictions.
Are you serious?

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:20 pm
by Gordaleman
Latest Harry Wilson link. Just published.

https://thetopflight.com/2020/09/25/tra ... n-burnley/

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:24 pm
by SalisburyClaret
Phil Jones???
Is that as understudy to Jimmy Dunne?

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:32 pm
by NewClaret
Taffy on the wing wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:18 pm
Are you serious?
About what?

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:48 pm
by Longsidejono6
Balotelli looking for a new club, no links nessasery

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:10 pm
by Taffy on the wing
About Smalling.......he's over the hill & useless and expensive.
Suicidal suggestion.

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:19 pm
by NewClaret
Taffy on the wing wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:10 pm
About Smalling.......he's over the hill & useless and expensive.
Suicidal suggestion.
He did very well at Roma and apparently Inter Milan want him too, although appreciate the game is much slower there. Hard to tell, but he seems fit and I would say a good experienced signing.

Wouldn’t want Jones with his injury record.

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:27 pm
by Firthy
KefkaClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:24 pm
We can't go into a season with Long as a starter.
If we sold Tarks it could be Long and Dunne as starters :o :shock:

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:29 pm
by Wokingclaret
Exactly

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:39 pm
by RVclaret
John Percy saying the £30m bud rejected but a bid of £35-40m maybe enough.

I think we should be aiming for £40m + add ons.

As for a replacement, I think we’ve been linked with Tomori at Chelsea before who could be a good option. Young and potential resell value. £15m on him and £15m on Wilson would be good business.

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:43 pm
by Wokingclaret
a bid of £35-40m maybe enough.

Will then be interesting

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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:03 pm
by Reecey1987
Daily Mail suggesting Leicester City are set to switch their attention to Bayer Leverkusen's defender Jonathan Tah.

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:12 pm
by rob63
Longsidejono6 wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:48 pm
Balotelli looking for a new club, no links nessasery
Now that's one where I hope there are no links at all ....ever :!:

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:39 am
by ClaretAL

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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:52 am
by Conroysleftfoot
ClaretAL wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:39 am
Interesting assesment...


https://www.liverpool.com/liverpool-fc- ... r-18991673
Very interesting as you say.

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:57 am
by NewClaret
ClaretAL wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:39 am
Interesting assesment...


https://www.liverpool.com/liverpool-fc- ... r-18991673
Great read.

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:34 am
by jrgbfc
So Chris Smalling who was a regular for Roma last year in Serie A isn't as good as Kevin Long or Jimmy Dunne? :lol: