Spurs just signed someone called Carlos

Thejackal?

So Leeds and Southampton now showing interest in Wilson...we going to have the rug pulled from under our feet here?

https://www.anfieldwatch.co.uk/leeds-an ... l-forward/

burnleymik wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:15 pm

So Leeds and Southampton now showing interest in Wilson...we going to have the rug pulled from under our feet here?

https://www.anfieldwatch.co.uk/leeds-an ... l-forward/

Like I posted earlier it looks to be recycled info - Leeds were interested the other week but then cooled their interest and seem to be looking elsewhere.

To be fair Leeds marquee signing has just fell through could be something in them going for Wilson now

It's not like us to be faffing around for a while and then lose out last minute.

If we were interested, I'm sure once we know we cannot get him, we will have moved on swiftly to another target and have started working on it immediately.

We will finish this window stronger than we started it remember

Keel the faith!

Apparently our offer falls a considerable way short of what Liverpool
want for him (about 4m short) but they might go for 14m +4m add ons
which would be a reasonable compromise.
I think Liverpool have overpriced him but may have decided to put him
in the shop window tonight and see whether anyone else might come
in with a better offer.
Given he doesn't seem to have had a great game and missed a penalty
that may have back fired in more ways than one.

All gone quiet since the decision was made that tarkowski was going nowhere, whilst there is no guarantee of that until the window is shut it seems any incoming transfers was hinging on tarkowski's sale, that said I doubt we'll have any further incomings, but certainly need at least 2 imo, fingers crossed I'm wrong.

MACCA wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:12 pm

It's not like us to be faffing around for a while and then lose out last minute.

If we were interested, I'm sure once we know we cannot get him, we will have moved on swiftly to another target and have started working on it immediately.

We will finish this window stronger than we started it remember

Keel the faith!

You keep jesting, but as things stand we will finish this window stronger than we started it.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:34 pm

You keep jesting, but as things stand we will finish this window stronger than we started it.

As things stand? Losing Hendrick, Hart and Lennon, but only Bringing in Dale Stephens?

alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:29 pm

All gone quiet since the decision was made that tarkowski was going nowhere, whilst there is no guarantee of that until the window is shut it seems any incoming transfers was hinging on tarkowski's sale, that said I doubt we'll have any further incomings, but certainly need at least 2 imo, fingers crossed I'm wrong.

But our bid for Wilson went in after it seemed that JT was staying.

burnleymik wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:42 pm

As things stand? Losing Hendrick, Hart and Lennon, but only Bringing in Dale Stephens?

Hendrick, Hart and Lennon all left before the transfer window opened. And we’ve brought in Norris as well as Stephens.

Thats not strengthening however you slice it

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:56 pm

Thats not strengthening however you slice it

As things stand, we will finish the transfer window stronger than we started it. That’s all I’m saying.

burnleymik wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:42 pm

As things stand? Losing Hendrick, Hart and Lennon, but only Bringing in Dale Stephens?

Hendrick is a loss, but we've brought in Stephens, and Benson might get more of a chance this season, he's not let us down in his displays so far, and he's certainly capable of playing a bit part role from the bench.

Hart has been replaced by BPF, and he's looked more than up to the task of being a number 2, or even filling in for Pope if required.

Lennon was another who was at best a bit part player, and he's not really been missed.

In addition all 3 of those mentioned were some of our biggest earners, so it's great that we've got them off the wage bill.

Whether we bring anyone else in this window or not, as long as we can get our injured players back, we've got more than enough to survive in this league, what we don't want is too recruit players who are no better than what we already have, as once our crocks are back, they'll be relegated to warming the bench, while earning big bucks.

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:56 pm

Thats not strengthening however you slice it

Tell you what we have finally seen is more of the younger/ reserve players;
BPF, Dunne & Benson - real potential there, may as well be 3 new signings and bench options waiting for their chance.

We didn’t see their potential 6 months ago

Here we go, I was afraid this was going to happen...

https://tbrfootball.com/report-leeds-le ... ry-wilson/

ClaretAL wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:27 am

Here we go, I was afraid this was going to happen...

https://tbrfootball.com/report-leeds-le ... ry-wilson/

Just read that. It's not saying we don't already know though. He's bound to have interest. It's more touting his name to clubs where they feel he'd get game time rather than anything concrete. There'll be a fair bit more of names and clubs being bandied around as the window looms ever closer.

ClaretAL wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:27 am

Here we go, I was afraid this was going to happen...

https://tbrfootball.com/report-leeds-le ... ry-wilson/

All that means is Liverpool and his agent are advertising the fact he's available to media outlets to try and bump and justify the price, promoting gazumping to get themselves a better deal. The question is whether we flinch and raise the offer...

ClaretAL wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:27 am

Here we go, I was afraid this was going to happen...

https://tbrfootball.com/report-leeds-le ... ry-wilson/

Not really fussed about this one, I have to say.

I’d like to know if our bid has been rejected. If so, I’d walk away and try for other targets, see if they come back on Monday!

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:16 am

Not really fussed about this one, I have to say.

I’d like to know if our bid has been rejected. If so, I’d walk away and try for other targets, see if they come back on Monday!

I don't disagree, it's just that it's getting too late for other targets, if all our eggs were in that basket

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:53 am

All that means is Liverpool and his agent are advertising the fact he's available to media outlets to try and bump and justify the price, promoting gazumping to get themselves a better deal. The question is whether we flinch and raise the offer...

I think it means his agent knows we are never going to meet the price, so he needs to advertise the goods elsewhere.

burnleymik wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:42 pm

As things stand? Losing Hendrick, Hart and Lennon, but only Bringing in Dale Stephens?

And gibson...

If Harry Wilson is our main target we are in trouble

We need a starting CM an experienced CB well before him

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:00 pm

As things stand, we will finish the transfer window stronger than we started it. That’s all I’m saying.

I agree.

jojomk1 wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:32 am

If Harry Wilson is our main target we are in trouble

We need a starting CM an experienced CB well before him

I'd say a wide man and CB are the 2 key areas. A genuine first team winger, and at least a capable stand in 3rd choice CB, making Long 4th which is fair enough.

Long cannot be 3rd choice and/or play more than a couple of times a season when desperate.

Regards wide men, Pieters cannot keep needing to step in, we create very little as it is, never mind with a LB playing RW. Yes he gives his all and plug a gap for emergencies, but he cant be starting games there.

Anyone seen enough of Wilson to think he would be a good signing for us? Always seems like a set piece merchant who drifts in and out of games to me. Not overly fussed if we miss out on him.

Grumps wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:20 am

I don't disagree, it's just that it's getting too late for other targets, if all our eggs were in that basket

I was pleasantly shocked when we were first linked, but in retrospect I’m never keen on a left footer on the right wing. It’s the checking back to get a cross in I don’t like. That’s not to say I wouldn’t take him (perhaps even as a RW but able to cover Dwight when JBG is back), but as a first choice RW I’d ideally prefer a right footer.

I may have a different opinion on this if he’d torn Arsenal apart last night but, since he didn’t, I’d just sit tight. Liverpool have a rep for selling very well. Fair play to them, but if they are going to tout him around he’s obviously not set on coming here so I’d walk away. See if the call back Monday and even then, perhaps ask for a loan with an option to buy given the lateness!

I think there might be may desperate clubs/agents trying to offload fringe players come Monday.

We can still sign Championship players thereafter and to be honest there’s players I’d equally if not more like to sign in the Championship than Wilson!

Can’t see us getting Wilson. I just hope we have other options. Ideally, I’d like to see JBG fit for the season but that seems unlikely.

Sheff United signing Rhian Brewster for £23.5m. Real intent to find goals which they appear to be lacking. Meanwhile we are still flapping around despite clear areas we are lacking. Clock is certainly ticking now!

I wouldn't mind us taking a gamble on Ryan Kent.

23 years old, RW, plenty of time to develop, from Oldham so a local lad, had a good upbringing at Liverpool, scored 11 in 30 ( although in the Scottish league ) and is available for 10m. You'd hope we can pay as much as Rangers are paying him.

Much prefer at least 1 right footed winger, and seems an ideal type to balance from McNeil on the left.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:49 am

I was pleasantly shocked when we were first linked, but in retrospect I’m never keen on a left footer on the right wing. It’s the checking back to get a cross in I don’t like. That’s not to say I wouldn’t take him (perhaps even as a RW but able to cover Dwight when JBG is back), but as a first choice RW I’d ideally prefer a right footer.

I may have a different opinion on this if he’d torn Arsenal apart last night but, since he didn’t, I’d just sit tight. Liverpool have a rep for selling very well. Fair play to them, but if they are going to tout him around he’s obviously not set on coming here so I’d walk away. See if the call back Monday and even then, perhaps ask for a loan with an option to buy given the lateness!

I think there might be may desperate clubs/agents trying to offload fringe players come Monday.

We can still sign Championship players thereafter and to be honest there’s players I’d equally if not more like to sign in the Championship than Wilson!

The thing is if he'd torn Arsenal apart last night the price would have gone up and more teams would have been competing for his signature. Sean must have seen something before last night to prompt our interest.

MACCA wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:03 am

I wouldn't mind us taking a gamble on Ryan Kent.

23 years old, RW, plenty of time to develop, from Oldham so a local lad, had a good upbringing at Liverpool, scored 11 in 30 ( although in the Scottish league ) and is available for 10m. You'd hope we can pay as much as Rangers are paying him.

Much prefer at least 1 right footed winger, and seems an ideal type to balance from McNeil on the left.

He plays on the left for Rangers

What is it with people requiring all wingers to play on the correct side of their favourite foot? Haven’t you been watching football for the last 15 years?

MACCA wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:03 am

I wouldn't mind us taking a gamble on Ryan Kent.

23 years old, RW, plenty of time to develop, from Oldham so a local lad, had a good upbringing at Liverpool, scored 11 in 30 ( although in the Scottish league ) and is available for 10m. You'd hope we can pay as much as Rangers are paying him.

Much prefer at least 1 right footed winger, and seems an ideal type to balance from McNeil on the left.

I've watched a couple of Rangers games this season and Kent wasn't all that good. However, Leeds manager seems to rate him.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:57 am

Sheff United signing Rhian Brewster for £23.5m. Real intent to find goals which they appear to be lacking. Meanwhile we are still flapping around despite clear areas we are lacking. Clock is certainly ticking now!

I think that makes over £50 million that Sheffield United have spent in this window. If you add on what they spent when they first got promoted they must have shelled out £100 million plus.

Big money from sheff united on Brewster, although Liverpool have a buy back clause active for 3 years.

Shaqiri to leave before the deadline. He would be perfect for us. Stretch as far as we can for him and if the player turns us down fair enough.

I think it's now very much a case of seeing if we can get 1-2 from the Championship before the 15th deadline.

Why does anybody think Shaqiri would be anywhere near our price bracket? And if we could afford the fee, and his wages, I couldn’t see him being remotely interested in coming to burnley!

Is anybody actually surprised that we're dragging our heels? This transfer window has been more embarrassing than all the others, and that takes some doing.

Bigvince wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:21 am

Why does anybody think Shaqiri would be anywhere near our price bracket? And if we could afford the fee, and his wages, I couldn’t see him being remotely interested in coming to burnley!

He went to Stoke!!

Grumps wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:33 am

He went to Stoke!!

For a quarter of the money, as a relatively unknown. Don’t know how much they paid for him, but can’t imagine the fee being excessive

Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:04 am

The thing is if he'd torn Arsenal apart last night the price would have gone up and more teams would have been competing for his signature. Sean must have seen something before last night to prompt our interest.

True. I was just saying that I would likely feel differently about signing him, had he had a stormer last night. I wasn't suggesting we should change our transfer strategy off the back of one bad game, if it's who Sean wants (or, more likely, who we might be able to afford).

I fancy Shaqiri’s destination being away from these shores

if we go down its only because the gulf in finance has got too wide for us now. Without a wealthy backer/ investors it was always going to happen just surprised reality has really hit in covid year where everyone was rumoured to be spending cautious this transfer window.
Simple as that unfortunately.

Hardly surprising that the few links that were lukewarm, at best, suddenly went cold once it was all but confirmed that Tarks would be staying.

Now plainly obvious that we needed to sell first and buy later.

Loan from a Championship club is now the likely outcome.

You lot all remember that Shaqiri played for Stoke before Liverpool?

How good was he there lads?

He's not a player that we need

Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:15 am

I think that makes over £50 million that Sheffield United have spent in this window. If you add on what they spent when they first got promoted they must have shelled out £100 million plus.

Think this is the exact problem we face - £23.5m for a player only proven at Championship level. It's shocking, really, but shows why Liverpool aren't prepared to take £12+4m for Wilson and why we can't compete in this market. Need to step down or go abroad, I think.

Welshman scored for Stoke last night...worth a cheeky bid?

We're so far away from being able to compete in the transfer market its frightening. Our much trumpeted financial prudence was fine whilst everything was going smoothly.