Midfield was poor tonight

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Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Guller Bull » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:58 pm

Big fan of Westwood, McNeil and Brownhill but as a midfield it was weak tonight

Good game overall and in some ways quite heartened but need to be linking play better.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:00 pm

Ah well, we can shake things up a bit next week...oh hang on a minute
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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Guller Bull » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:02 pm

I don't think it affected much with Brady going off, something just wasn't gelling in the middle of the park.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:03 pm

Poor, or just outplayed?

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by burnleymik » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:03 pm

I thought Brownhill did okay overall.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:04 pm

Covered a lot of ground and were 'treading water' near the end.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by ewanrob » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:05 pm

Our midfields first job was to try and protect the inexperienced back four, what on earth did you expect...expansive football?
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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by taio » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:05 pm

I thought we did quite well in most aspects considering the circumstances. We looked most vulnerable down our right hand side.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Guller Bull » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:05 pm

Bit of both, Leicester have some real quality all over the park but it just felt there wasn't the creativity and organisation in the centre. McNeil was poor by his standards. Brownhill has yet to find his Prem feet (he will) and Westwood looked off it.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Sheedyclaret » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:06 pm

Probably what was behind them affected the game

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by MACCA » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:06 pm

To be fair I'd have probably took that result before the game, I feared for us that much.
We could have had 4 ourselves, but also defended quite poorly by our standards.
Fair result, no complaints from the manager, his selection, the effort etc.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Blyclaret » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:06 pm

For me Mc Neill was very poor tonight
Casual ... looked disinterested at times.
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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:06 pm

I think we created as many chances as Leicester.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Papabendi » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:07 pm

was Brady injured or did he just not fancy it.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Guller Bull » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:09 pm

Thought we put up a spirited and encouraging performance overall and certainly not in the doom/gloom camp. Just thought that's the area of the park that was at it's weakest tonight

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by SGr » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:10 pm

We really need a pacey right sided player. Have done for a while.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:15 pm

I've been saying it for many, many months, our midfield has no idea how to retain the ball and control a game. Brownhill played well tonight but the rest of our midfield was completely over run. People are crying out for new signings, well I would love to see a couple of quality midfielders, like Barton and Defour at their best, who could help us to try and control midfield and create more for our forwards.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Rowls » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:21 pm

Needs a bit more steel and quality in the centre.

Oddly I think they were too eager to sit back to protect our inexperienced centre backs and therefore failed to close down effectively enough.
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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by KRBFC » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:23 pm

Defensively we looked all over the place but worked hard

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Jakubs Tash » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:25 pm

Would have been interesting if we had enough midfield players to put McNeil as a no 10 tonight and play like we did at Palace. I think we'd have caused them problems and certainly looked more solid.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by mkmel » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:27 pm

Crying out for a defensive midfielder to play in front of our back four and give them protection

They were given too much space to shoot without anyone closing them down

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Star Gazer » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:30 pm

was it really that bad considering

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Gordaleman » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:32 pm

Blyclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:06 pm
For me Mc Neill was very poor tonight
Casual ... looked disinterested at times.
McNeil does that a lot. If he's not quite at it, he sulks.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Willy » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:34 pm

I thought Brownhill was fantastic tonight and Westwood used the ball intelligently.Brady was also doing very well defensively until he went off.
Dwight could have closed Praet down for the 4th goal rather than go out wide but whilst being okay defensively wasn't his usual attacking menace.
Pieters was his usual solid self and was okay.
Leicester are a good side and we gave them a decent game.
I also thought that Charlie Taylor showed he is the best English left back by a country mile.
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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:34 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:03 pm
Poor, or just outplayed?
Is there a difference ?

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:40 pm

They’re just better than us, it is what it is. I wouldn’t read to much into it

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:43 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:34 pm
Is there a difference ?
Yes, this
They’re just better than us, it is what it is. I wouldn’t read to much into it

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Carport » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:55 pm

Why does Dwight so often end up after running forward a few yards turning round and then playing the ball backwards? So frustrating.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:59 pm

I’d hate to play midfield now, so many times you could see; time and time again their instinct was to challenge, that seconds hesitation makes all the difference.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by dandeclaret » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:01 pm

Midfield definitely looked a lot more open than normal. Maybe the value of Jack Cork will be appreciated now. Brownhill's work rate was good, but he faded badly. Might need to pace himself a bit better, or it may take him a proper pre season to get fully Dyche fit. No managers day this year I presume.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Papabendi » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:01 pm

Carport wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:55 pm
Why does Dwight so often end up after running forward a few yards turning round and then playing the ball backwards? So frustrating.
pretty much what he has done for 15-20 games now.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:03 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:01 pm
pretty much what he has done for 15-20 games now.
50 million pound man

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by chekhov » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:07 pm

Carport wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:55 pm
Why does Dwight so often end up after running forward a few yards turning round and then playing the ball backwards? So frustrating.
I would suggest because there are no players to pass to in more advanced positions.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by expoultryboy » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:08 pm

This will wind some up : missed Hendrick !!

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:08 pm

I seriously wonder if certain folks on here have ever watched football before or ever kicked a ball in anger

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:09 pm

Their 3rd goal came from their 20m signing last summer and their 21m signing this summer. Second had a lucky deflection . Fourth was poor defensively from us but some of these comments are mental.

Overall we played pretty well. Especially given the fact we've half the usual 1st eleven out. Though Westwood and Brownhills had good games. Brady was playing well. Peters did pretty well too. If Wood scores instead of the post its 3-3 and a really exciting last 10 minute. As Dyche says its all about fine margins

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by EarbyClaret » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:12 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:09 pm
Overall we played pretty well. Especially given the fact we've half the usual 1st eleven out. Though Westwood and Brownhills had good games. Brady was playing well. Peters did pretty well too. If Wood scores instead of the post its 3-3 and a really exciting last 10 minute. As Dyche says its all about fine margins
It was 4-2 when Wood hit the post - would have made it 4-3

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:17 pm

Blyclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:06 pm
For me Mc Neill was very poor tonight
Casual ... looked disinterested at times.
McNeil hasn’t been the same player since he got that cast on his arm. He needs it sorting soon.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:20 pm

EarbyClaret wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:12 pm
It was 4-2 when Wood hit the post - would have made it 4-3
So it was. (Doh) it was the Peters header. Anyway, it was a fairly tight game bar some key moments. Like most of our games. Leicester are an excellent side and our midfield played pretty well overall.
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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Andreshotboots » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:20 pm

Fine margins, we just looked a Premier League game behind leicester in sharpness all over the pitch.. Similar to the City post lockdown fixture and we did OK after that one...keep the faith.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by EarbyClaret » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:22 pm

McNeil is the one creative spark in the whole team - not sure what people expect him to achieve on his own with zero service - it all started OK with Taylor in support but as Leicester took control we were forced onto the back foot to try and protect an inexperienced back line - he was completely isolated

Tonight's game would have better suited a 4-5-1 - except we haven't got enough players to make up the 5

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:22 pm

on the assumption Brady will be out and we don't have any wingers.... against Saints I would like to see

Wood Vydra
Jay R McNeil Westwood Browhill
Taylor Tarks Long Bardsley
Pope

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Spike » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:26 pm

We never prosper if our wide men don’t hold onto the ball at least for a bit of the time

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by BenWickes » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:39 pm

Spike wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:26 pm
We never prosper if our wide men don’t hold onto the ball at least for a bit of the time
It helps if your most influential player doesn't stand, hands on hips as the game goes on and doesn't anticipate an obvious pass. He literally couldn't be arsed.

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Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Post by Zom Zom » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:08 pm

I thought they gave their all from back to front. It's much easier to accept defeat when you can see players giving their all.
And Wrighty's recollections of his time here were wonderful to hear.

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