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Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:58 pm
by Guller Bull
Big fan of Westwood, McNeil and Brownhill but as a midfield it was weak tonight

Good game overall and in some ways quite heartened but need to be linking play better.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:00 pm
by randomclaret2
Ah well, we can shake things up a bit next week...oh hang on a minute

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:02 pm
by Guller Bull
I don't think it affected much with Brady going off, something just wasn't gelling in the middle of the park.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:03 pm
by boatshed bill
Poor, or just outplayed?

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:03 pm
by burnleymik
I thought Brownhill did okay overall.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:04 pm
by Silkyskills1
Covered a lot of ground and were 'treading water' near the end.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:05 pm
by ewanrob
Our midfields first job was to try and protect the inexperienced back four, what on earth did you expect...expansive football?

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:05 pm
by taio
I thought we did quite well in most aspects considering the circumstances. We looked most vulnerable down our right hand side.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:05 pm
by Guller Bull
Bit of both, Leicester have some real quality all over the park but it just felt there wasn't the creativity and organisation in the centre. McNeil was poor by his standards. Brownhill has yet to find his Prem feet (he will) and Westwood looked off it.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:06 pm
by Sheedyclaret
Probably what was behind them affected the game

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:06 pm
by MACCA
To be fair I'd have probably took that result before the game, I feared for us that much.
We could have had 4 ourselves, but also defended quite poorly by our standards.
Fair result, no complaints from the manager, his selection, the effort etc.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:06 pm
by Blyclaret
For me Mc Neill was very poor tonight
Casual ... looked disinterested at times.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:06 pm
by boatshed bill
I think we created as many chances as Leicester.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:07 pm
by Papabendi
was Brady injured or did he just not fancy it.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:09 pm
by Guller Bull
Thought we put up a spirited and encouraging performance overall and certainly not in the doom/gloom camp. Just thought that's the area of the park that was at it's weakest tonight

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:10 pm
by SGr
We really need a pacey right sided player. Have done for a while.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:15 pm
by Vino blanco
I've been saying it for many, many months, our midfield has no idea how to retain the ball and control a game. Brownhill played well tonight but the rest of our midfield was completely over run. People are crying out for new signings, well I would love to see a couple of quality midfielders, like Barton and Defour at their best, who could help us to try and control midfield and create more for our forwards.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:21 pm
by Rowls
Needs a bit more steel and quality in the centre.

Oddly I think they were too eager to sit back to protect our inexperienced centre backs and therefore failed to close down effectively enough.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:23 pm
by KRBFC
Defensively we looked all over the place but worked hard

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:25 pm
by Jakubs Tash
Would have been interesting if we had enough midfield players to put McNeil as a no 10 tonight and play like we did at Palace. I think we'd have caused them problems and certainly looked more solid.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:27 pm
by mkmel
Crying out for a defensive midfielder to play in front of our back four and give them protection

They were given too much space to shoot without anyone closing them down

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:30 pm
by Star Gazer
was it really that bad considering

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:32 pm
by Gordaleman
Blyclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:06 pm
For me Mc Neill was very poor tonight
Casual ... looked disinterested at times.
McNeil does that a lot. If he's not quite at it, he sulks.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:34 pm
by Willy
I thought Brownhill was fantastic tonight and Westwood used the ball intelligently.Brady was also doing very well defensively until he went off.
Dwight could have closed Praet down for the 4th goal rather than go out wide but whilst being okay defensively wasn't his usual attacking menace.
Pieters was his usual solid self and was okay.
Leicester are a good side and we gave them a decent game.
I also thought that Charlie Taylor showed he is the best English left back by a country mile.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:34 pm
by randomclaret2
boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:03 pm
Poor, or just outplayed?
Is there a difference ?

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:40 pm
by Burnley1989
They’re just better than us, it is what it is. I wouldn’t read to much into it

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:43 pm
by boatshed bill
randomclaret2 wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:34 pm
Is there a difference ?
Yes, this
They’re just better than us, it is what it is. I wouldn’t read to much into it

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:55 pm
by Carport
Why does Dwight so often end up after running forward a few yards turning round and then playing the ball backwards? So frustrating.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:59 pm
by elwaclaret
I’d hate to play midfield now, so many times you could see; time and time again their instinct was to challenge, that seconds hesitation makes all the difference.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:01 pm
by dandeclaret
Midfield definitely looked a lot more open than normal. Maybe the value of Jack Cork will be appreciated now. Brownhill's work rate was good, but he faded badly. Might need to pace himself a bit better, or it may take him a proper pre season to get fully Dyche fit. No managers day this year I presume.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:01 pm
by Papabendi
Carport wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:55 pm
Why does Dwight so often end up after running forward a few yards turning round and then playing the ball backwards? So frustrating.
pretty much what he has done for 15-20 games now.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:03 pm
by Blackburn_Claret
Papabendi wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:01 pm
pretty much what he has done for 15-20 games now.
50 million pound man

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:07 pm
by chekhov
Carport wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:55 pm
Why does Dwight so often end up after running forward a few yards turning round and then playing the ball backwards? So frustrating.
I would suggest because there are no players to pass to in more advanced positions.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:08 pm
by expoultryboy
This will wind some up : missed Hendrick !!

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:08 pm
by Vegas Claret
I seriously wonder if certain folks on here have ever watched football before or ever kicked a ball in anger

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:09 pm
by BabylonClaret
Their 3rd goal came from their 20m signing last summer and their 21m signing this summer. Second had a lucky deflection . Fourth was poor defensively from us but some of these comments are mental.

Overall we played pretty well. Especially given the fact we've half the usual 1st eleven out. Though Westwood and Brownhills had good games. Brady was playing well. Peters did pretty well too. If Wood scores instead of the post its 3-3 and a really exciting last 10 minute. As Dyche says its all about fine margins

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:12 pm
by EarbyClaret
BabylonClaret wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:09 pm
Overall we played pretty well. Especially given the fact we've half the usual 1st eleven out. Though Westwood and Brownhills had good games. Brady was playing well. Peters did pretty well too. If Wood scores instead of the post its 3-3 and a really exciting last 10 minute. As Dyche says its all about fine margins
It was 4-2 when Wood hit the post - would have made it 4-3

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:17 pm
by huw.Y.WattfromWare
Blyclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:06 pm
For me Mc Neill was very poor tonight
Casual ... looked disinterested at times.
McNeil hasn’t been the same player since he got that cast on his arm. He needs it sorting soon.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:20 pm
by BabylonClaret
EarbyClaret wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:12 pm
It was 4-2 when Wood hit the post - would have made it 4-3
So it was. (Doh) it was the Peters header. Anyway, it was a fairly tight game bar some key moments. Like most of our games. Leicester are an excellent side and our midfield played pretty well overall.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:20 pm
by Andreshotboots
Fine margins, we just looked a Premier League game behind leicester in sharpness all over the pitch.. Similar to the City post lockdown fixture and we did OK after that one...keep the faith.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:22 pm
by EarbyClaret
McNeil is the one creative spark in the whole team - not sure what people expect him to achieve on his own with zero service - it all started OK with Taylor in support but as Leicester took control we were forced onto the back foot to try and protect an inexperienced back line - he was completely isolated

Tonight's game would have better suited a 4-5-1 - except we haven't got enough players to make up the 5

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:22 pm
by Vegas Claret
on the assumption Brady will be out and we don't have any wingers.... against Saints I would like to see

Wood Vydra
Jay R McNeil Westwood Browhill
Taylor Tarks Long Bardsley
Pope

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:26 pm
by Spike
We never prosper if our wide men don’t hold onto the ball at least for a bit of the time

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:39 pm
by BenWickes
Spike wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:26 pm
We never prosper if our wide men don’t hold onto the ball at least for a bit of the time
It helps if your most influential player doesn't stand, hands on hips as the game goes on and doesn't anticipate an obvious pass. He literally couldn't be arsed.

Re: Midfield was poor tonight

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:08 pm
by Zom Zom
I thought they gave their all from back to front. It's much easier to accept defeat when you can see players giving their all.
And Wrighty's recollections of his time here were wonderful to hear.