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I’d love to confidently tell you that you’re wrong. Unfortunately, I think it could well be me that would be incorrect.MACCA wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:33 pmThey could find the next Messi, but the man signing the cheques might not allow it.
He wants to decide on everything, even if it's not his field of expertise.
He is the reason we are in this mess, he doesnt want to listen to the miracle worker and the bloke who knows what he is doing.
Hi Macca, it's an expensive business running a Premier League football club. If it was me signing the cheques I'd want a big say in where the money was spent. Now, how does the club owner get the expertise to make those decisions correctly? Or, should he hand over the cheque book to someone who see's his role as spending the money, but not worrying about how much is spent or when the money will run out?MACCA wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:33 pmThey could find the next Messi, but the man signing the cheques might not allow it.
He wants to decide on everything, even if it's not his field of expertise.
He is the reason we are in this mess, he doesnt want to listen to the miracle worker and the bloke who knows what he is doing.
He should figure out how much we can afford to spend on wages and fees and communicate those amounts to someone with the expertise to make the decisions correctly. That way the financial decisions are made by finance people and the footballing decisions are made by football people.Paul Waine wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:40 pmHi Macca, it's an expensive business running a Premier League football club. If it was me signing the cheques I'd want a big say in where the money was spent. Now, how does the club owner get the expertise to make those decisions correctly? Or, should he hand over the cheque book to someone who see's his role as spending the money, but not worrying about how much is spent or when the money will run out?
It's a fun challenge, isn't it.
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The "club owner" has someone to advise him about football matters that couldn't be anymore qualified for the job if he tried.Paul Waine wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:40 pmHi Macca, it's an expensive business running a Premier League football club. If it was me signing the cheques I'd want a big say in where the money was spent. Now, how does the club owner get the expertise to make those decisions correctly? Or, should he hand over the cheque book to someone who see's his role as spending the money, but not worrying about how much is spent or when the money will run out?
It's a fun challenge, isn't it.
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Once again, I wish I could disagree but this has an awful ring of truth about it. Explains entirely why Dyche isn’t just given a specified budget to spend as he sees fit.MACCA wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:33 pmThey could find the next Messi, but the man signing the cheques might not allow it.
He wants to decide on everything, even if it's not his field of expertise.
He is the reason we are in this mess, he doesnt want to listen to the miracle worker and the bloke who knows what he is doing.
Bang on the money, best post in a while....let's not continue with this if it's not broke dont fix it b******s, he is getting pretty close to taking this club to ruination.MACCA wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:33 pmThey could find the next Messi, but the man signing the cheques might not allow it.
He wants to decide on everything, even if it's not his field of expertise.
He is the reason we are in this mess, he doesnt want to listen to the miracle worker and the bloke who knows what he is doing.
I don't know, ksr. I doubt any of us know where the club's finances are at the moment. We all know that Mike Garlick, in early April, spoke about the possible financial impact of covid-19 on the club's finances. None of us, I expect, have direct knowledge of all the contracts with players, both the existing ones and those that left at the end of last season. None of us know what the club's accounts look like for the season just ended, were we in profit or were we already showing losses? (We do know what the previous year's accounts show, but that was the year end 30-Jun-2019). Revenues have taken a hit, but how big is that hit? Costs are up, but how big are these extra costs? Budgets come from knowing the answers to these questions - that's if giving a manager a budget for player transfers and wages is a good idea.ksrclaret wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:46 pmThe "club owner" has someone to advise him about football matters that couldn't be anymore qualified for the job if he tried.
I don't think anybody has suggested he hands over a blank cheque book have they? But giving the manager a budget to work with might be start, don't you think?
I'll tell you who ought to have an answer for all those questions - Mike Garlick. I'd expect an intelligent businessman like him to be able to do a few sums to that end and come up with a plan for moving forwards. I'd then expect him to communicate this plan with his senior leaders.Paul Waine wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:58 pmI don't know, ksr. I doubt any of us know where the club's finances are at the moment. We all know that Mike Garlick, in early April, spoke about the possible financial impact of covid-19 on the club's finances. None of us, I expect, have direct knowledge of all the contracts with players, both the existing ones and those that left at the end of last season. None of us know what the club's accounts look like for the season just ended, were we in profit or were we already showing losses? (We do know what the previous year's accounts show, but that was the year end 30-Jun-2019). Revenues have taken a hit, but how big is that hit? Costs are up, but how big are these extra costs? Budgets come from knowing the answers to these questions - that's if giving a manager a budget for player transfers and wages is a good idea.
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Spot on. If the man at the top won’t invest the clubs money on players identified there isn’ta loot the manager or recruitment team can do.jedi_master wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:26 pmRecruitment team can recommend a thousand players, and get the info on how much they cost and what they’re on.
They don’t sign the cheques though do they?
The most intriguing post I have seen on here in the past several months. To be clear Roy, and others; I don't blame Mike, or any of the board for where we are at, everyone knows its so difficult guiding Burnley to where we are and they have all, to a man been amazing, great stewards to our wonderful club. However if the time has come that the journey has come to an end, then thats sadly how it is. Its clear we are at a massive crossroads in our history, we need players, if we can not back the manager, I fear we lose him and our place in the best league in the world. We have been so lucky to get right back to the top, through 15-20 years of great leadership, surely now we need to try and maintain it for as long as we can.Royboyclaret wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:07 pmSome seriously unfair and unjust criticism aimed at the Chairman on this thread. Since Covid took hold the Club has been in financial turmoil with severe broadcast rebates and the loss of Suning, a very important overseas rights-holder. All of which has resulted in the Club losing many millions of revenue that had previously been effectively taken for granted. Worse still is the potential for even greater rebates in this coming season.
We took a difficult decision to extend the financial year-end by one month until the end of July, so that the accounts for the 13 month period were completed and audited around three weeks ago. When the outcome of those accounts became apparent I'm 99% certain that Sean Dyche will have been informed that there would be no incoming transfers until one of our crown jewels had been sold. That's where we currently stand, with an ongoing situation that is likely to be resolved during this coming week.
It's been a tough and uncertain time for everyone connected with Burnley Football Club, but be assured there is no more frustrated fan of the Club right now than the Chairman himself. Be patient and see how matters unfolld in the next few days.
That’s this summer explained, Royboy (and, the only transfer window thus far where Covid-19 has existed and been an existential threat to our finances).Royboyclaret wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:07 pmSome seriously unfair and unjust criticism aimed at the Chairman on this thread. Since Covid took hold the Club has been in financial turmoil with severe broadcast rebates and the loss of Suning, a very important overseas rights-holder. All of which has resulted in the Club losing many millions of revenue that had previously been effectively taken for granted. Worse still is the potential for even greater rebates in this coming season.
We took a difficult decision to extend the financial year-end by one month until the end of July, so that the accounts for the 13 month period were completed and audited around three weeks ago. When the outcome of those accounts became apparent I'm 99% certain that Sean Dyche will have been informed that there would be no incoming transfers until one of our crown jewels had been sold. That's where we currently stand, with an ongoing situation that is likely to be resolved during this coming week.
It's been a tough and uncertain time for everyone connected with Burnley Football Club, but be assured there is no more frustrated fan of the Club right now than the Chairman himself. Be patient and see how matters unfolld in the next few days.
Corrected it for you.
So reading between the lines because we have lost projected revenue the board don’t have the cojones to spend a penny. The fact that we have an absolute threadbare squad as it is and won’t add to it without selling is an absolute disgrace. We might aswell pack it in if that’s the case.Royboyclaret wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:07 pmSome seriously unfair and unjust criticism aimed at the Chairman on this thread. Since Covid took hold the Club has been in financial turmoil with severe broadcast rebates and the loss of Suning, a very important overseas rights-holder. All of which has resulted in the Club losing many millions of revenue that had previously been effectively taken for granted. Worse still is the potential for even greater rebates in this coming season.
We took a difficult decision to extend the financial year-end by one month until the end of July, so that the accounts for the 13 month period were completed and audited around three weeks ago. When the outcome of those accounts became apparent I'm 99% certain that Sean Dyche will have been informed that there would be no incoming transfers until one of our crown jewels had been sold. That's where we currently stand, with an ongoing situation that is likely to be resolved during this coming week.
It's been a tough and uncertain time for everyone connected with Burnley Football Club, but be assured there is no more frustrated fan of the Club right now than the Chairman himself. Be patient and see how matters unfolld in the next few days.
Agreed. I don't think even MG would suggest that we have any chance of staying up when we start the season with such a small squad and lack of options.