Harry Wilson

[ClaretTony]

That’d be sheer pedantry if he did. We lost 2 outfield players who were in matchday squad pre-lockdown and our record signing has gone to Norwich on loan.

It’s not just the fans asking him to loosen the purse strings, it’s the clubs most valuable member of staff.

And others within the club from what I hear

[boatshed bill]

That's some politics level doublespeak given in reality we're down Hendrick, Lennon, Hart and Gibson this window.

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We have replaced Hart and Hendrick

[Down_Rover]

Wilson scored 7 goals last season in a struggling side from out wide - how many did our wingers manage - 7 between them ?

Cos he is a babyliner.

No room for one of them in our team

Dodged another bullet.

What really interests me here is who within the club thought he would be a good signing?

[BurnleyFC]

Cos he is a babyliner.

No room for one of them in our team

Dodged another bullet.

What really interests me here is who within the club thought he would be a good signing?

If one of our best managers of all time wanted him then that’s good enough for me.

He’s been ****** over by Garlick again.

Garlick out.

[Conroy92]

I wonder if we'll go back for Quaison now, sounds like the 12m and add ons offered for Wilson would get him.

[kentonclaret]

10 pages on a thread on the possibility of signing a player and when the deal looks like it has collapsed people post "that's a relief".

[Mattster]

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We have replaced Hart and Hendrick

Are you suggesting that by adding Stephens and Norris that our squad is now stronger than it was with Hendrick, Hart, Lennon and Gibson?

[BenWickes]

I wonder if we'll go back for Quaison now, sounds like the 12m and add ons offered for Wilson would get him.

Garlick's trying to persuade Glen Little to come out of retirement I heard

[boatshed bill]

Are you suggesting that by adding Stephens and Norris that our squad is now stronger than it was with Hendrick, Hart, Lennon and Gibson?

No. But we are only two short of our usual squad size.
And we added Brownhill in advance of Hendrick leaving.

[BOYSIE31]

Cos he is a babyliner.

No room for one of them in our team

Dodged another bullet.

What really interests me here is who within the club thought he would be a good signing?

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[Mattster]

No. But we are only two short of our usual squad size.
And we added Brownhill in advance of Hendrick leaving.

So what's your point? I was saying that signing Stephens and Norris does not mean we'd be stronger at the end of the window, which you're agreeing with.

And Brownhill was Defour's replacement, not Hendrick's.

[ClaretTony]

Cos he is a babyliner.

No room for one of them in our team

Dodged another bullet.

What really interests me here is who within the club thought he would be a good signing?

I would think Dyche thought he would be a good signing given that we were trying to sign him.

Babyliner - not heard that one since primary school, but that's not the first word that came anywhere near my head to describe Wilson.

[boatshed bill]

I really don't get why people come on here in a bit of a strop attempting to vent their evident frustration. It's pointless to get angry over things you cannot effect. Transfer windows are terrible things, don't let them get to you.

[randomclaret2]

I really don't get why people come on here in a bit of a strop attempting to vent their evident frustration. It's pointless to get angry over things you cannot effect. Transfer windows are terrible things, don't let them get to you.

Why bother commenting on anything BFC related then ? Results, performances, promotion , relegation ? We cant affect any of them ...

[Conroy92]

I would think Dyche thought he would be a good signing given that we were trying to sign him.

Babyliner - not heard that one since primary school, but that's not the first word that came anywhere near my head to describe Wilson.

I didn't think you could be a babyliner in professional football since offsides were introduced? We called people that at school or 5 a side games when there was no offsides and you had one guy stood on the goal line trying to poach everything in all game. Or does Wilson have an offside rate equal to Wood?

[ClaretMov]

If the rumours are correct, it's a relief imo. Not seen anything to suggest this guy is going to an upgrade on what we already have.

1- he can take a free kick.....no one else can

2- he's not made out lettuce like our other wingers

[boatshed bill]

Why bother commenting on anything BFC related then ? Results, performances, promotion , relegation ? We cant affect any of them ...

To discuss. But it's an angry place at present.
Look at all the hundreds of posts based on silly rumours, and the arguments they cause.
Some posters really need to chill

[warksclaret]

For me the tone of SD in todays press conference is more worrying than not signing Wilson.That unhappiness is likely to run across the coaches and maybe even some of the players

[ClaretTony]

For me the tone of SD in todays press conference is more worrying than not signing Wilson.That unhappiness is likely to run across the coaches and maybe even some of the players

I've not seen any of it but I'm told he was in a very good mood today other than with one media outlet

[claretblue]

I've not seen any of it but I'm told he was in a very good mood today other than with one media outlet

that'll be Mr Bentley!

[Gordaleman]

I've not seen any of it but I'm told he was in a very good mood today other than with one media outlet

I watched the whole conference and he looked OK to me. All the usual little jokes and he kept smiling to himself at his banter with the press.

I don't know where this idea of him looking angry has come from to be honest. He just told it how it is.

[Quickenthetempo]

For me the tone of SD in todays press conference is more worrying than not signing Wilson.That unhappiness is likely to run across the coaches and maybe even some of the players

Nixon has said Dyche could take up acting after management with his performance in the press conference.

I tend to agree with him.

[ClaretTony]

I watched the whole conference and he looked OK to me. All the usual little jokes and he kept smiling to himself at his banter with the press.

I don't know where this idea of him looking angry has come from to be honest. He just told it how it is.

As I posted, I didn't see it but I was told he was fine by someone who was actually there. I don't think, sometimes, people understand his sense of humour, like the open cheque book but the other day.

[Down_Rover]

I would think Dyche thought he would be a good signing given that we were trying to sign him.

Babyliner - not heard that one since primary school, but that's not the first word that came anywhere near my head to describe Wilson.

For once I agree with LTL. His heat maps suggest Wilson would not fit in with our style of play. Spends most of the game waiting for someone to give him the ball

[Dark Cloud]

If that's true about Eliasson going off to the rubbish French league for just £2.5M, then it really is criminal that we haven't taken him. Absolute no brainer imo at that price with his crossing record which is phenomenal, bearing in mind what Chris Wood and Jayrod absolutely thrive on, and yep, could have turned out to be a real turkey at the higher level, but he'd have been a lot cheaper turkey than bloody Gibbo!

[KRBFC]

Wilson scored 7 goals last season in a struggling side from out wide - how many did our wingers manage - 7 between them ?

But but but he missed a penalty last night so he must be rubbish

[KRBFC]

Niclas Eliasson - £2-3m ( left wing / right wing )
Connor Roberts - £4-6m ( right back / right midfield / left back )
Ben Davies - £5-6m ( centre back left )
Ryan Manning - £2-3m ( left midfield / left back )

£13-18m total spend ( figures are very rough guesses with no supporting evidence )

Matt O'Riley and Andre Green on free transfers for the development squad- if they aren't hung up on getting league game time.

Ben Whiteman - £2-3 if we want to push the boat out

Non of those players are good enough for the PL

[ClaretTony]

For once I agree with LTL. His heat maps suggest Wilson would not fit in with our style of play. Spends most of the game waiting for someone to give him the ball

How many times have you seen him play? While I was surprised we were in for him, I wouldn't say that from what I've seen of him.

[BenWickes]

I've not seen any of it but I'm told he was in a very good mood today other than with one media outlet

Wonder who that could be...

[NewClaret]

Just looked through a twitter thread where all the LFC fans are saying £20m is too high for him.

Glad we’ve walked away if the price is getting too high for us (just as WHU did with Tarks), albeit hope we’ve got some alternatives lined up!

[claret59]

Its bizarre how Wilson's scoring record is belittled by some on here. Makes you wonder why any Club is unable to use the same techniques to create an
accomplished striker/ scorer. A piece of cake you might think. Perhaps all that is needed on the training pitch is a concoction of 'heat maps' and then fifteen goals a season strikers would roll off the production line with calm regularity.

[ClaretTony]

albeit hope we’ve got some alternatives lined up!

That, apparently, is where you are likely to be disappointed.

[Long Time Lurker]

Non of those players are good enough for the PL

Ruling out players from Europe, except the really expensive and obvious ones, which is who we have been linked with.

Ruling out players from other EPL teams.

Ruling out older players.

Ruling in players that fall within our financial constraints that could be expected to move.

Who should we sign ?

EPL ready players are expensive and we don't need EPL ready players. We need fourth choice back up players who are better than what we have in our development squads.

Players that might be able to step up when they are introduced to a higher level of football and who won't lose us a fortune if they can't.

The type of players who might be expected to have cheap Championship price tags and would retain that value if they proved to be no better than Championship players.

The type of players that we built our current squad with.

Are Norris and Stephens PL calibre players that will carry the club forward over the long term and provide us with profitable returns on our transfer investment to support our running costs ?

We don't have the necessary funds to spend £15-20m on singular players that could constitute risky investments that could lose us a lot of money if they don't work out. Wilson didn't look like he was PL ready last season when he was with Bournemouth and he definitely didn't look to have the makings of a £20-30m player in the future.

[Long Time Lurker]

That, apparently, is where you are likely to be disappointed.

That, apparently, would be a sign of a recruitment team that is failing to do its job.

[BenWickes]

That, apparently, would be a sign of a recruitment team that is failing to do its job.

Get yer heat maps out for the lads!

[Danieljwaterhouse]

1- he can take a free kick.....no one else can

2- he's not made out lettuce like our other wingers

Number two is an underrated line and hasn’t got the love it deserves

[Hedontplayforyou]

That, apparently, is where you are likely to be disappointed.

Wow, are you telling us that ,we, Burnley FC, a premier league football club , has placed all their eggs in a Welsh winger shaped basket?

Absolutely shocking if this is true .

[BenWickes]

Number two is an underrated line and hasn’t got the love it deserves

True. You can do wonderful things with a lettuce....

[KRBFC]

Ruling out players from Europe, except the really expensive and obvious ones, which is who we have been linked with.

Ruling out players from other EPL teams.

Ruling out older players.

Ruling in players that fall within our financial constraints that could be expected to move.

Who should we sign ?

EPL ready players are expensive and we don't need EPL ready players. We need fourth choice back up players who are better than what we have in our development squads.

Players that might be able to step up when they are introduced to a higher level of football and who won't lose us a fortune if they can't.

The type of players who might be expected to have cheap Championship price tags and would retain that value if they proved to be no better than Championship players.

The type of players that we built our current squad with.

Are Norris and Stephens PL calibre players that will carry the club forward over the long term and provide us with profitable returns on our transfer investment to support our running costs ?

We don't have the necessary funds to spend £15-20m on singular players that could constitute risky investments that could lose us a lot of money if they don't work out. Wilson didn't look like he was PL ready last season when he was with Bournemouth and he definitely didn't look to have the makings of a £20-30m player in the future.

I think we need a right midfielder to start ASAP, I don’t want to see Pieters play in midfield ever again and I don’t want to see our 2nd best central midfielder forced to play out wide.

We look absolutely awful atm, the only side I would be confident of finishing above is Fulham.

BOS to come off the bench late and a 4th choice central defender is fine but our midfield needs strengthening now. I have no idea about Roca but he’s got pedigree and clear talent.

???? Roca Westwood McNeil

I’d be looking at Watford Bournemouth and Norwich. Delofeu And Capoue would walk into our side and improve us.

Then look at PL teams, Everton Chelsea and Newcastle desperate to offload players. Loftus Cheek on Loan? Delph would be excellent.

[Down_Rover]

How many times have you seen him play? While I was surprised we were in for him, I wouldn't say that from what I've seen of him.

Plenty of times for Derby and Bournemouth

Struck me as a poor mans Chris Eagles. Bits of talent when teammates give him the ball but a luxury in a team set up like ours

Nowhere near the Liverpool team file under Solanke and Ibe. When did Liverpool sell a good player that wasn’t good enough for them. Huge risk at £20m

It’s all about opinions

[KRBFC]

Plenty of times for Derby and Bournemouth

Struck me as a poor mans Chris Eagles. Bits of talent when teammates give him the ball but a luxury in a team set up like ours

Nowhere near the Liverpool team file under Solanke and Ibe. When did Liverpool sell a good player that wasn’t good enough for them. Huge risk at £20m

It’s all about opinions

I don’t know why you keep saying that like Eagles wasn’t a good player????

[BenWickes]

Then look at PL teams, Everton Chelsea and Newcastle desperate to offload players. Loftus Cheek on Loan? Delph would be excellent.

You make a valid point. Chelsea openly touting Hudson Odoi, Tomori and Loftus-Cheek to go out on loan.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Would take Any 2 of those 3

[Vegas Claret]

we've got 2 weeks left to raid the Championship

[Hedontplayforyou]

Which championship clubs are brassic ? Could only think that’s where we will be looking

[kentonclaret]

Don't think our recent loan history with players from Chelsea can be labelled a success story.

[Long Time Lurker]

I think we need a right midfielder to start ASAP, I don’t want to see Pieters play in midfield ever again and I don’t want to see our 2nd best central midfielder forced to play out wide.

We look absolutely awful atm, the only side I would be confident of finishing above is Fulham.

BOS to come off the bench late and a 4th choice central defender is fine but our midfield needs strengthening now. I have no idea about Roca but he’s got pedigree and clear talent.

???? Roca Westwood McNeil

I’d be looking at Watford Bournemouth and Norwich. Delofeu And Capoue would walk into our side and improve us.

Then look at PL teams, Everton Chelsea and Newcastle desperate to offload players. Loftus Cheek on Loan? Delph would be excellent.

I think Delofeu is a classy player, but I suspect he is well beyond our price range.

Signing Capou would make a mockery of having just signed Stephens. If we bought him now what would we do with Stephens when Corky comes back fit, pay him wages just to look longingly at our bench ?

Capou also has a contract that ends in 2022 so we would have to give him at least that, clogging up our ranks with yet another depreciating asset.

Roca would have value going forward, but once again it would raise question marks about signing up Stephens to a 2 year plus 1 contract.

The gaffer reportedly doesn't like loans and Delph could cost us 80K a week or £4m in wages for the year. After that year we would have nothing to show for it. The same would apply to Loftus-Cheek.

We needed another central midfielder in this window, we got Stephens. That is it, done, dusted and sorted. Anyone else would simply replicate the excess goalkeeper problem we had when we brought in Hart as injury cover.

[Long Time Lurker]

You make a valid point. Chelsea openly touting Hudson Odoi, Tomori and Loftus-Cheek to go out on loan.

I would take Hudson Odoi on loan. However, bringing in players on loan to shore things up is just piling up the work that we will have to do next Season. Work that we should have done this season, but have so far failed to do.

The same way that we had to turn to Drinkwater last Summer, because we didn't do what we needed to do.

It would be a lot simpler if our new recruitment department simply put in the performance that they are being paid to deliver. No other team is struggling as much as we are or having to rely on dusting off the filing cabinets to pull out the names of players they scouted 4 years ago to fill gaps.

More importantly, no other team has initiated a transfer strategy that has dropped themselves in the **** like we have.

[MACCA]

That, apparently, would be a sign of a recruitment team that is failing to do its job.

They could spot and recommend the next Messi, sadly it's the guy who signs the cheques who has the last say..

[Hedontplayforyou]

Have we got new owners on the horizon or not? Would love Garlick to stay on the board and advise with John B but we need a bit more clout if possible