Can't argue really. It would give us a year to sort it all out though, hopefully. He'd definitely get game time at present and it'd be his place to lose.Long Time Lurker wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:29 pmI would take Hudson Odoi on loan. However, bringing in players on loan to shore things up is just piling up the work that we will have to do next Season. Work that we should have done this season, but have so far failed to do.
The same way that we had to turn to Drinkwater last Summer, because we didn't do what we needed to do.
It would be a lot simpler if our new recruitment department simply put in the performance that they are being paid to deliver. No other team is struggling as much as we are or having to rely on dusting off the filing cabinets to pull out the names of players they scouted 4 years ago to fill gaps.
More importantly, no other team has initiated a transfer strategy that has dropped themselves in the **** like we have.
Harry Wilson
Re: Harry Wilson
-
- Posts: 1753
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:09 pm
- Been Liked: 445 times
- Has Liked: 187 times
- Location: Manchester
-
- Posts: 14571
- Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:55 am
- Been Liked: 3437 times
- Has Liked: 6339 times
-
- Posts: 13509
- Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:51 am
- Been Liked: 3114 times
- Has Liked: 3833 times
Re: Harry Wilson
To be honest Tony, my exasperation peaked last weekend. I’ve now given up all hope. Even if we signed a few, I’d still think our management of this window has been exceptionally poor. Won’t be too disappointed, just want the window to be over so we don’t have to watch other clubs signing players while we model various doomsday scenarios.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:34 pmThat, apparently, is where you are likely to be disappointed.
These 2 users liked this post: ClaretTony Rumpelstiltskin
-
- Posts: 14571
- Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:55 am
- Been Liked: 3437 times
- Has Liked: 6339 times
Re: Harry Wilson
That's because he wasn't really.
Good in flashes, lacked any real long term consistency and his career shows that.
Aside from a couple of appearances for Utd, he had 2 PL seasons in his career, Burnley and Bolton.
The rest is lower league.
There's a real case to be made that McNeil is already a better player than Eagles ever was.
This user liked this post: KateR
-
- Posts: 2065
- Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:21 pm
- Been Liked: 217 times
- Has Liked: 97 times
Re: Harry Wilson
Eagles had a lot of problems off the pitch which sadly he never recovered fromGodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:46 pmThat's because he wasn't really.
Good in flashes, lacked any real long term consistency and his career shows that.
Aside from a couple of appearances for Utd, he had 2 PL seasons in his career, Burnley and Bolton.
The rest is lower league.
There's a real case to be made that McNeil is already a better player than Eagles ever was.
-
- Posts: 6693
- Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:13 pm
- Been Liked: 1702 times
- Has Liked: 790 times
Re: Harry Wilson
Eagles may have had some issues , and I know suffered from asthma, but he was a very talented footballer, scoring some sensational goals, and contributing to our promotion under Coyle.I thought he was a tremendous signing by Coyle
-
- Posts: 14571
- Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:55 am
- Been Liked: 3437 times
- Has Liked: 6339 times
Re: Harry Wilson
Treacy style problems or other stuff?Reecey1987 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:48 pmEagles had a lot of problems off the pitch which sadly he never recovered from
-
- Posts: 2065
- Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:21 pm
- Been Liked: 217 times
- Has Liked: 97 times
Re: Harry Wilson
https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/footb ... g-a-child/ him and his partner lost there child its obviously had an effect on his career
-
- Posts: 5793
- Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:52 am
- Been Liked: 1884 times
- Has Liked: 841 times
Re: Harry Wilson
Sooner Garlick hands over the better. Imagine being Dyche earning a club hundreds of millions and not being allowed to spend anything again.Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:33 pmHave we got new owners on the horizon or not? Would love Garlick to stay on the board and advise with John B but we need a bit more clout if possible
These 8 users liked this post: DCWat warksclaret DomBFC1882 ClaretTony randomclaret2 JohnDearyMe Boss Hogg NewClaret
Re: Harry Wilson
As has been mentioned he had off field issues that badly screwed up his career. He was unplayable at times under Coyle and had 10+ goals and assists in 1 season in the Championship with Bolton. Inconsistent like all wingers everGodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:46 pmThat's because he wasn't really.
Good in flashes, lacked any real long term consistency and his career shows that.
Aside from a couple of appearances for Utd, he had 2 PL seasons in his career, Burnley and Bolton.
The rest is lower league.
There's a real case to be made that McNeil is already a better player than Eagles ever was.
Re: Harry Wilson
It wasnt anger, but hes clearly sick of answering the same old questions....how many times does he have to say, I've no budget, ask the chairman.Gordaleman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:48 pmI watched the whole conference and he looked OK to me. All the usual little jokes and he kept smiling to himself at his banter with the press.
I don't know where this idea of him looking angry has come from to be honest. He just told it how it is.
-
- Posts: 67892
- Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
- Been Liked: 32542 times
- Has Liked: 5279 times
- Location: Burnley
- Contact:
Re: Harry Wilson
And those of field issues were long after he left Burnley. At his best he was outstanding but it wasn’t very often. No level of consistency at all, probably his best spell was under Laws after relegation. Good players are more consistent than he ever came close to being.
And I agree, McNeil has already done more than Eagles did as a Premier League player.
These 2 users liked this post: KateR Quicknick
-
- Posts: 14571
- Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:55 am
- Been Liked: 3437 times
- Has Liked: 6339 times
Re: Harry Wilson
His personal tragedy was in 2016 though.
He struggled for consistency throughout his career before then which is why he only had 2 full seasons in the top flight.
-
- Posts: 1360
- Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:56 pm
- Been Liked: 225 times
- Has Liked: 248 times
Re: Harry Wilson
Hudson Odoi on the right wing would be amazing but isn’t he a left winger ?Long Time Lurker wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:29 pmI would take Hudson Odoi on loan. However, bringing in players on loan to shore things up is just piling up the work that we will have to do next Season. Work that we should have done this season, but have so far failed to do.
The same way that we had to turn to Drinkwater last Summer, because we didn't do what we needed to do.
It would be a lot simpler if our new recruitment department simply put in the performance that they are being paid to deliver. No other team is struggling as much as we are or having to rely on dusting off the filing cabinets to pull out the names of players they scouted 4 years ago to fill gaps.
More importantly, no other team has initiated a transfer strategy that has dropped themselves in the **** like we have.
-
- Posts: 5793
- Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:52 am
- Been Liked: 1884 times
- Has Liked: 841 times
Re: Harry Wilson
Sure Chelsea will really be looking to send us another loan player!
-
- Posts: 3982
- Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:04 pm
- Been Liked: 855 times
- Has Liked: 605 times
Re: Harry Wilson
Then it's the press that's at fault for asking the same questions, week in, week out. Maybe that's why he shows frustration? He's fed up of the press, not the board?
-
- Posts: 6904
- Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:04 pm
- Been Liked: 2758 times
- Has Liked: 4325 times
Re: Harry Wilson
Gordaleman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:09 pmThen it's the press that's at fault for asking the same questions, week in, week out. Maybe that's why he shows frustration? He's fed up of the press, not the board?
-
- Posts: 3982
- Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:04 pm
- Been Liked: 855 times
- Has Liked: 605 times
Re: Harry Wilson
As I just said to someone else.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:55 pmAs I posted, I didn't see it but I was told he was fine by someone who was actually there. I don't think, sometimes, people understand his sense of humour, like the open cheque book but the other day.
Maybe it's the press that's at fault for asking the same questions, week in, week out. Maybe that's why he shows frustration? He's fed up of the press, not the board?
You are right about his sense of humour. He was smiling at his own gags throughout.
-
- Posts: 67892
- Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
- Been Liked: 32542 times
- Has Liked: 5279 times
- Location: Burnley
- Contact:
Re: Harry Wilson
That isn’t my view
-
- Posts: 2743
- Joined: Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:31 pm
- Been Liked: 667 times
- Has Liked: 2053 times
Re: Harry Wilson
Agree with that and it is sad that Garlick is tarnishing his legacy so much. Such a disappointmentSteve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:14 pmSooner Garlick hands over the better. Imagine being Dyche earning a club hundreds of millions and not being allowed to spend anything again.
-
- Posts: 3922
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:39 pm
- Been Liked: 834 times
- Has Liked: 1331 times
- Location: burnley
Re: Harry Wilson
Please can you tell us which Board member you are or are related to our friends with?Gordaleman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:09 pmThen it's the press that's at fault for asking the same questions, week in, week out. Maybe that's why he shows frustration? He's fed up of the press, not the board?
-
- Posts: 3982
- Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:04 pm
- Been Liked: 855 times
- Has Liked: 605 times
Re: Harry Wilson
I didn't say it was mine either. I simply asked the question, but it must bug him.
Re: Harry Wilson
Board maybe not, Chairman most probablyGordaleman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:09 pmThen it's the press that's at fault for asking the same questions, week in, week out. Maybe that's why he shows frustration? He's fed up of the press, not the board?
-
- Posts: 3922
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:39 pm
- Been Liked: 834 times
- Has Liked: 1331 times
- Location: burnley
Re: Harry Wilson
I think the vast majority of fans understand the difficulties of Covid's effect on the budget. However, to go into the next 4 months at least with Kev as our 3rd choice cb and no threat on the right side would be insane. It's not fair on our best manager since Potts.
-
- Posts: 820
- Joined: Sun May 31, 2020 5:26 pm
- Been Liked: 193 times
Re: Harry Wilson
Remember the best manager we have every had utc
Re: Harry Wilson
This season will be the start of our massive fall from grace and will then be left with an ageing squad in the championship so could be league 1 in 3 years
-
- Posts: 14571
- Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:55 am
- Been Liked: 3437 times
- Has Liked: 6339 times
Re: Harry Wilson
This is why I like you, such a sunny disposition.
These 4 users liked this post: Zlatan Juan Tanamera tiger76 Quicknick
Re: Harry Wilson
Taxi for boysie
-
- Posts: 10974
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:38 am
- Been Liked: 5188 times
- Has Liked: 804 times
- Location: On top of a pink elephant riding to the Democratic Republic of Congo
Re: Harry Wilson
We’re all doomed, doomed I tell ya!!!!!!!!
Re: Harry Wilson
There’s no way we’d go for a player like Hudson-Odoi, little old Burnley has been peddled for far too long for us to even think of approaching a player of his quality.
Garlick out. Garlick Stinks.
Garlick out. Garlick Stinks.
-
- Posts: 79
- Joined: Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:02 pm
- Been Liked: 15 times
- Has Liked: 84 times
Re: Harry Wilson
Some guy on twitter with 20k followers is now saying Burnley are close to securing Wilson on a season long loan.
Don’t know to how to link the tweet
Don’t know to how to link the tweet
-
- Posts: 5092
- Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:15 am
- Been Liked: 1181 times
- Has Liked: 637 times
- Location: Tibet
Re: Harry Wilson
Still anything is possible as we all know strange things happen when the window is going to close
-
- Posts: 30707
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:00 am
- Been Liked: 11052 times
- Has Liked: 5660 times
- Location: clue is in the title
Re: Harry Wilson
he is an ex agent, seems to have some fairly decent success with his predictionsandysisson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:23 pmSome guy on twitter with 20k followers is now saying Burnley are close to securing Wilson on a season long loan.
Don’t know to how to link the tweet
- Attachments
-
- Screenshot 2020-10-02 at 1.46.16 PM.png (567.43 KiB) Viewed 3140 times
This user liked this post: andysisson
-
- Posts: 3982
- Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:04 pm
- Been Liked: 855 times
- Has Liked: 605 times
Re: Harry Wilson
If that turned out to be true, we'd still have enough to bring in Roca or Christie and pay their wages for a year.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:46 pmhe is an ex agent, seems to have some fairly decent success with his predictions
This user liked this post: Wokingclaret
-
- Posts: 515
- Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:44 pm
- Been Liked: 156 times
- Has Liked: 107 times
Re: Harry Wilson
Hope that doesn't include a requirement to buy.
-
- Posts: 30707
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:00 am
- Been Liked: 11052 times
- Has Liked: 5660 times
- Location: clue is in the title
Re: Harry Wilson
suspect there will be a loan fee, could be a loan with an option to buy - no chance we would commit to it without knowing which league we will be inGordaleman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:04 pmIf that turned out to be true, we'd still have enough to bring in Roca or Christie and pay their wages for a year.
Re: Harry Wilson
Seriously ?
What is it you saw ?
He hasn’t taken a penny out of the club.
He has given the manager more to spend than any chairman has given a Burnley manager in our history
He appointed Dyche
He’s kept Dyche
He commissioned the new training ground
Of course most of the credit has to go to Dyche. But struggling to see how Garlick and rest of the board haven’t played a big part in our success.
Clearly things are not all well at present - but none of us know the details why. There is a lot of uncertainty about the next few years finances.
These 3 users liked this post: Juan Tanamera BertiesBeehole Quicknick
Re: Harry Wilson
I agreeTVC15 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:26 pmSeriously ?
What is it you saw ?
He hasn’t taken a penny out of the club.
He has given the manager more to spend than any chairman has given a Burnley manager in our history
He appointed Dyche
He’s kept Dyche
He commissioned the new training ground
Of course most of the credit has to go to Dyche. But struggling to see how Garlick and rest of the board haven’t played a big part in our success.
Clearly things are not all well at present - but none of us know the details why. There is a lot of uncertainty about the next few years finances.
-
- Posts: 2094
- Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:18 pm
- Been Liked: 298 times
- Has Liked: 781 times
Re: Harry Wilson
He didn't appoint Dyche, the joint Chairmen did
He has had the most income of any other Chair of BFC
Yes he kept Dyche
Dyche asked the board to do the training ground
We seem to be in a mess with no communication from the top
He has had the most income of any other Chair of BFC
Yes he kept Dyche
Dyche asked the board to do the training ground
We seem to be in a mess with no communication from the top
-
- Posts: 2094
- Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:18 pm
- Been Liked: 298 times
- Has Liked: 781 times
Re: Harry Wilson
Chris Wilder purring tonight about Brewster, a very happy manager
Oh to have a happy manager
Oh to have a happy manager
Re: Harry Wilson
Id be a very worried manager
If i paid 23.5m for a player who never played or scored in premier league.
Brewster could get Wilder the sack.
If i paid 23.5m for a player who never played or scored in premier league.
Brewster could get Wilder the sack.
This user liked this post: NewClaret
Re: Harry Wilson
He was one of the joint chairmen - so yes he did appoint Dyche.Wokingclaret wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:52 pmHe didn't appoint Dyche, the joint Chairmen did
He has had the most income of any other Chair of BFC
Yes he kept Dyche
Dyche asked the board to do the training ground
We seem to be in a mess with no communication from the top
It’s his income (or the boards of which he is the biggest shareholder) and he has given a lot of it to the manager to spend. He could have done what the Oystons did at Blackpool and paid himself an £18m dividend but hasn’t taken a penny out.
I know Dyche asked the board to do the training ground but Garlick made it happen.
Communication has not been great but he’s explained why the finances were at risk and was one of the first Premier League managers to talk to the media about the impact of Covid.
I just don’t get why people are turning on the chairman who has overseen the most successful period in several decades for the club and done it without putting the clubs future at risk. Of course Dyche is the most important person in this success but that does not mean he has done it without the board contributing lots.
These 7 users liked this post: Burnley Ace GodIsADeeJay81 Zlatan Braindead Quicknick longsidepies Rileybobs
-
- Posts: 2094
- Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:18 pm
- Been Liked: 298 times
- Has Liked: 781 times
Re: Harry Wilson
50/50 plus other board members involved
We put the club at risk every season we are in the Championship, look at Bournemouth they have raked in over 100 mill because they had the assets to sell
The Board and Chair has done very little, Dyche and his team has done it for them
We put the club at risk every season we are in the Championship, look at Bournemouth they have raked in over 100 mill because they had the assets to sell
The Board and Chair has done very little, Dyche and his team has done it for them
-
- Posts: 2094
- Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:18 pm
- Been Liked: 298 times
- Has Liked: 781 times
-
- Posts: 3552
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:03 pm
- Been Liked: 656 times
- Has Liked: 2899 times
Re: Harry Wilson
Purring about paying £23m for a striker who has only played 20 first team games in the Championship!! He has scored 10 goals at club level.Wokingclaret wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:59 pmChris Wilder purring tonight about Brewster, a very happy manager
Oh to have a happy manager
-
- Posts: 14571
- Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:55 am
- Been Liked: 3437 times
- Has Liked: 6339 times
Re: Harry Wilson
Stop sniffing the glue.Wokingclaret wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:12 pm50/50 plus other board members involved
We put the club at risk every season we are in the Championship, look at Bournemouth they have raked in over 100 mill because they had the assets to sell
The Board and Chair has done very little, Dyche and his team has done it for them