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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by BenWickes » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:16 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:12 pm
Just read them. Surprising. Can't say I watched much of his overall game when he was with them, just saw he scored a few goals, so thought they would be more complimentary.
Contradicting what Liverpool fans think of him on the Liverpool Echo.

'This guy is a very good player'
'Not (Liverpool) giving him a fair crack of the whip'

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by BenWickes » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:17 pm

RMutt wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:00 pm
Well Dyche has said we have to sell first in order to bring players in hasn’t he?
Nope.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by RMutt » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:19 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:12 pm
I don't think he has.
I thought I’d read it somewhere but I stand corrected if he hasn’t.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by SGr » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:20 pm

Nixon hinting that our offer is about £10m off the valuation...

https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/stat ... 75621?s=21

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by groove » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:22 pm

I don't know much about him. Is he better than Jon Flanagan?

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by RMutt » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:25 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:17 pm
Nope.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... roach.html

I can’t believe I’m linking to the blasted Mail, but knowing them they probably made the whole thing up anyway.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by kentonclaret » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:30 pm

Burnley boss Sean Dyche admits they're battling to land their transfer targets ….Dyche said "Ours has often been lastminute.com; SELL FIRST, BUY SECOND, that kind of thinking. That's the way the club is. When you know what you have to manage you manage it the best you can."

Those comments from Sean Dyche were made 4/5 days ago and were widely reported in the national media.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by kentonclaret » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:31 pm

Burnley boss Sean Dyche admits they're battling to land their transfer targets ….Dyche said "Ours has often been lastminute.com; SELL FIRST, BUY SECOND, that kind of thinking. That's the way the club is. When you know what you have to manage you manage it the best you can."

Those comments from Sean Dyche were made 4/5 days ago and were widely reported in the national media.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by aggi » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:33 pm

I didn't see a huge amount of him but read quite a few reports that suggested he didn't contribute enough beyond goals (quite a few from free kicks I think).

Wouldn't be disappointed if we got him though. He may or may not turn out to be good but it's the kind of signing we need to look at. (Although I wouldn't have been disappointed if we'd signed Ibe this week so maybe I'm just getting desperate.)

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Stayingup » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:34 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:34 pm
Not sure about the pipe smoking but ......

harold-wilson-labour-leader-for-13-years-and-prime-minister-news-photo-1569879863.jpg
He was Left Winger though wasn't he?
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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by martin_p » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:34 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:31 pm
Burnley boss Sean Dyche admits they're battling to land their transfer targets ….Dyche said "Ours has often been lastminute.com; SELL FIRST, BUY SECOND, that kind of thinking. That's the way the club is. When you know what you have to manage you manage it the best you can."

Those comments from Sean Dyche were made 4/5 days ago and were widely reported in the national media.
But that doesn’t equate to him saying we definitely have to sell before we can buy right now.
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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:35 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:08 pm
Mcneil and Wilson on the wings with Stephens and Westwood in the centre? Yes bloody please
With Cork and Brownhill fighting for their starting spot.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by BenWickes » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:35 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:30 pm
Burnley boss Sean Dyche admits they're battling to land their transfer targets ….Dyche said "Ours has often been lastminute.com; SELL FIRST, BUY SECOND, that kind of thinking. That's the way the club is. When you know what you have to manage you manage it the best you can."

Those comments from Sean Dyche were made 4/5 days ago and were widely reported in the national media.
That wasn't a serious response. He was having a larf at our transfer policy. When was the last time we had to sell to buy? It's been a while.
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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by kentonclaret » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:40 pm

Having a larf or otherwise that was what Sean Dyche said at a Press Conference that was being disputed by some.

Sean used it as humour, maybe, but knowing that there was sense of reality in those remarks as well.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:40 pm

Yeah, those comments aren't the same as him saying we need to sell before we can buy.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Fretters » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:40 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:08 pm
Mcneil and Wilson on the wings with Stephens and Westwood in the centre? Yes bloody please
It will take a lot for Stephens to dislodge Brownhill.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by RMutt » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:42 pm

Well Dyche shouldn’t be so flippant when talking to the Daily Mail then. A lot of people are taken in by their headlines.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:47 pm

Not researched this but it does seem to me that ex Liverpool players don’t tend to set the world on fire. Maybe that’s because they keep the good uns. Having said that he will be a huge improvement on nowt

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by TVC15 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:49 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:40 pm
Having a larf or otherwise that was what Sean Dyche said at a Press Conference that was being disputed by some.

Sean used it as humour, maybe, but knowing that there was sense of reality in those remarks as well.
He said “often” have to sell to buy.
Not always and in reality it’s not actually been the case has it under his tenure.
Which of his incoming transfers did we have to sell players to fund ?

The little digs he is making at every press conference are getting a bit tiresome now to be honest. I’m convinced he does it to get supporters and media on his side.

He’s the best manager we have had in my lifetime but let’s not forget that Burnley have also given him by far the best period of his playing and managerial career.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:51 pm

groove wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:22 pm
I don't know much about him. Is he better than Jon Flanagan?
Who isn't?!
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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:54 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:40 pm
Having a larf or otherwise that was what Sean Dyche said at a Press Conference that was being disputed by some.

Sean used it as humour, maybe, but knowing that there was sense of reality in those remarks as well.
He's also said we were in the market for Messi. Did you think there was an element of truth in that?

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by jedi_master » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:57 pm

Nixon’s comments suggest we certainly aren’t anything like ‘closing in’.

Let us hope he’s wrong.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by RMutt » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:00 pm

Obviously the timelines are not exactly sell/buy, but it could be argued that any of Ings, Trippier, Keane, Gray, etc helped to pay for subsequent signings. We can’t throw money at those types of players in order to keep them at Burnley so those deals are more crucial to our club in order to keep us going. Obviously I too am hoping we don’t need to sell Tarkowski.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Steddyman » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:01 pm

Yes please. The sort of player we need to be linked with to pose a threat going forwards.
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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by ashtonlongsider » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:26 pm

Wilson might be a good dead ball specialist, but that apart I can't say i've been overly impressed. How many Liverpool players in the modern era leave Anfield and are a success? I can't think of many.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:28 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:57 pm
Nixon’s comments suggest we certainly aren’t anything like ‘closing in’.
Let us hope he’s wrong.
Like I say I hope we aren't jumping the gun here and it's far from close. There's bound to be other club(s) that are interested and compete us for him.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:29 pm

I'd hope if it is to be a decent fee, a sizeable proportion would be in the form of add-ons based on games, goals, caps, PL status, sell on % / Buy back clauses etc.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by TVC15 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:30 pm

ashtonlongsider wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:26 pm
Wilson might be a good dead ball specialist, but that apart I can't say i've been overly impressed. How many Liverpool players in the modern era leave Anfield and are a success? I can't think of many.
Suarez
Ings
Mascherano

Probably more but I know what you mean.
The best exponent at this was of course Sir Alex. He got rid of so many players for decent money knowing they were never going to be good enough for United but cos he’d played them a couple of times in a Carling Cup game he had the ability to cast a mythical spell over the negotiations and get clubs like Everton to pay a million pounds for John O Kane etc etc !!

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by DCWat » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:31 pm

ashtonlongsider wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:26 pm
Wilson might be a good dead ball specialist, but that apart I can't say i've been overly impressed. How many Liverpool players in the modern era leave Anfield and are a success? I can't think of many.
Assume you mean youngsters and not the likes of Suarez and Coutinho.

Raheem Sterling, Conor Coady?

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Papabendi » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:36 pm

Wilson doesn't generally get a great write up by Bournemouth fans other than for his set pieces.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Pearcey » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:36 pm

ashtonlongsider wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:26 pm
Wilson might be a good dead ball specialist, but that apart I can't say i've been overly impressed. How many Liverpool players in the modern era leave Anfield and are a success? I can't think of many.
A young lad called Harry Wilson has done well during 3 loan spells and at international level.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:40 pm

Image
TVC15 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:30 pm
Suarez
Ings
Mascherano

Probably more but I know what you mean.
The best exponent at this was of course Sir Alex. He got rid of so many players for decent money knowing they were never going to be good enough for United but cos he’d played them a couple of times in a Carling Cup game he had the ability to cast a mythical spell over the negotiations and get clubs like Everton to pay a million pounds for John O Kane etc etc !!
Woah, JOK was, is a legend!

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by TVC15 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:43 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:40 pm
Image

Woah, JOK was, is a legend!
When he was on loan to Burnley he was beyond awful !! He looked like we’d asked one of the fans to play - and not one of the better ones !!

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Spijed » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:43 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:30 pm
Suarez
Ings
Mascherano

Probably more but I know what you mean.
The best exponent at this was of course Sir Alex. He got rid of so many players for decent money knowing they were never going to be good enough for United but cos he’d played them a couple of times in a Carling Cup game he had the ability to cast a mythical spell over the negotiations and get clubs like Everton to pay a million pounds for John O Kane etc etc !!
And boy, didn't we get lumbered with some United rubbish!

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:49 pm

Burnley Substantial Distance From Harry Wilson Asking Price
It has been claimed they will need to put a 1 in front of the proposal.
https://insidefutbol.com/2020/09/23/bur ... ce/473835/

Sounds like a £9 million bid then, if that's the case.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by DCWat » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:50 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:49 pm
Burnley Substantial Distance From Harry Wilson Asking Price
https://insidefutbol.com/2020/09/23/bur ... ce/473835/
That’s our favourite distance!!

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:51 pm

City kids haven't done too bad for us ;) . I'd be reluctant to judge who we sign now than in previous eras

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Pearcey » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:54 pm

Sounds like this could be another damp squib. Suggestions are we're miles apart on valuation. You never know but can’t see this happening.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:56 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:43 pm
When he was on loan to Burnley he was beyond awful !! He looked like we’d asked one of the fans to play - and not one of the better ones !!
I’m only messing, he’s one of my pals, and yeah he wasn’t great, but his Achilles had gone by then. He’s a top guy now though 🙌🏼

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Gordaleman » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:18 pm

DCWat wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:50 pm
That’s our favourite distance!!
Just following government guidlines and keeping their distance. ;)
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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by claretandy » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:33 pm

I think we've made an inquiry and Liverpool have leaked it to flush out other bidders.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Gordaleman » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:35 pm

claretandy wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:33 pm
I think we've made an inquiry and Liverpool have leaked it to flush out other bidders.
Isn't that what every club does? ;)

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:37 pm

claretandy wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:33 pm
I think we've made an inquiry and Liverpool have leaked it to flush out other bidders.
That’s standard practice you don’t even need to make an enquiry, it’s common knowledge the positions we need to strengthen any player within reason it’s believable & enough to spark rival interest.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:40 pm

it's all a smoke screen. We've actually gone in for Mane

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by claretandy » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:47 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:35 pm
Isn't that what every club does? ;)
Brighton didn't/haven't.

We didn't with Tarks, all the leaks have come from Wet Spam.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Gordaleman » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:52 pm

claretandy wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:47 pm
Brighton didn't/haven't.

We didn't with Tarks, all the leaks have come from Wet Spam.
How do you know we didn't with Tarks? That said, maybe he's perfectly happy where he is? :)

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by claret59 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:15 pm

If this is the same Harry Wilson who was on loan at Hull City a couple of seasons ago then he was highly rated as a player. Also represented that Club well in public forums . A very decent bloke by all accounts.

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Harry Wilson

Post by brexit » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:47 pm

Can't wait for the "new leighton James" thread from the zinmmers.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by Silkyskills1 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:03 pm

brexit wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:47 pm
Can't wait for the "new leighton James" thread from the zinmmers.
Guessing I fall into said category and there is nothing comparable.between the two.players.

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Re: Harry Wilson

Post by KRBFC » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:10 pm

Why another thread?

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