ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:32 pm

I'm sure there's nothing to worry about. Reports I'm reading is that it's expected to be settled 'in the next few weeks', making it more likely to be near the end of this month.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Leisure » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:33 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:27 pm

The other alternative would be for Garlick to run the club down like he his at the moment, with the end result being relegation with the value of the club becoming next to worthless
I'd love to know just what benefit you think that there would be for Mr Garlick in him doing this???
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Claretlad » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:34 pm

Bargin Burnley

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:42 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:32 pm
I'm sure there's nothing to worry about. Reports I'm reading is that it's expected to be settled 'in the next few weeks', making it more likely to be near the end of this month.
Which reports are they Frank ?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:45 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:42 pm
Which reports are they Frank ?
I read one earlier on the newsnow website that covers Burnley's transfer rumours (and the takeover now and again). Read another last week that I found on Facebook, forget the source.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:49 pm

Cheers Frank

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by burnley007 » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:54 pm

This has been one of the most embarrassing, childish threads on here for a long time.

It's like a competition for being the most annoying belmtard in Burnley.

Made worse by the fact that it's one of the most crucial subjects of my lifetime as a Claret.

Idiots.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Zlatan » Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:04 pm

or perhaps some of us just like a bit of humour from time to time, and a little bit of banter
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:07 pm

ah yes, the adeola friday thread is much better.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by DCWat » Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:09 pm

Where have the ‘not stumping up the cash’ comments come from? I’m assuming it’s just because it’s not happening as quickly as we might like and not something that has been reported somewhere?
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Steddyman » Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:35 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:54 pm
This has been one of the most embarrassing, childish threads on here for a long time.

It's like a competition for being the most annoying belmtard in Burnley.

Made worse by the fact that it's one of the most crucial subjects of my lifetime as a Claret.

Idiots.
I love the word belmtard. I was convinced me and my mate invented that in Primary school in the 70's.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by dandeclaret » Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:39 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:00 pm
All bidders have had plenty of time to do DD, they must now stump up with the cash, if not Garlick wants to tell them to do one

Put up or shut up
FFS, they’re negotiating the sale of a business with chunky turnover, and volatile assets, not selling a 2nd hand fiat punto. These things take time, there’s lots of hoops to be jumped through, lots of details to iron out. It looks likely to be done, but if you’re working in days, rather than weeks and months, you may have underestimated the complexity.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by KRBFC » Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:50 pm

Leisure wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:33 pm
I'd love to know just what benefit you think that there would be for Mr Garlick in him doing this???
He’s parting with more money once the club is sold and in the meantime relying on Dyche to keep the value up. Garlick hasn’t been investing for a long time, since we had that one summer and January where we brought in Hendrick Defour and Brady.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Leisure » Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:53 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:50 pm
He’s parting with more money once the club is sold
Sorry but can you explain just what that means?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by NewClaret » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:13 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:50 pm
He’s parting with more money once the club is sold and in the meantime relying on Dyche to keep the value up. Garlick hasn’t been investing for a long time, since we had that one summer and January where we brought in Hendrick Defour and Brady.
I have no idea what is going on with the takeover and there could be a whole number of reasons for the “delays”, but it is concerning me because we’re fast approaching January and you’d expect them to need to be in situ at least a few weeks to discuss budgets, players, etc. In some respects, coming on board very late December/early January could be more disruptive.

That said, I’d expect us to make some signings in January regardless. The value of the club falls off a cliff edge if we’re relegated, so you’d expect if talks are stalling for whatever reason, Garlick would take a gamble and invest to stay in the PL.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by DCWat » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:17 pm

He’s parting with more money once the club is sold?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by welsbyswife » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:39 pm

Can see both sides to this bickering. No question that a number of idiots are ruining the board. But the way it has been handled is straight from the "How not to deal with your problematic teenage child" textbook. Tell them not to do something and they will do it more. Hence 100 pages of messages with only 3 pages worth of genuine news.

Have real sympathy with those seeking to moderate the board but it's no good trying to reason with idiots. Close it down for a while and let the keyboard warriors drift off and find another forum.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by KRBFC » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:46 pm

DCWat wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:17 pm
He’s parting with more money once the club is sold?
I meant to type departing
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Top Claret » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:46 pm

Leisure wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:33 pm
I'd love to know just what benefit you think that there would be for Mr Garlick in him doing this???
They would obviously be no benefits.

We would be hurtling back to the lower leagues and the share value would plumit with the results on the field

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Top Claret » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:12 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:39 pm


FFS, they’re negotiating the sale of a business with chunky turnover, and volatile assets, not selling a 2nd hand fiat punto. These things take time, there’s lots of hoops to be jumped through, lots of details to iron out. It looks likely to be done, but if you’re working in days, rather than weeks and months, you may have underestimated the complexity.
These takeover talks with Alk capital have been on going since the summer not days or weeks

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by dandeclaret » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:24 pm

And do you think since the summer? Around 4-5 months is a long time, in a Covid affected world, for a £200m takeover to be completed? That’s 16-22 weeks. It’s not a huge period of time.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Leisure » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:27 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:46 pm
They would obviously be no benefits.

We would be hurtling back to the lower leagues and the share value would plumit with the results on the field
So why would Mr Garlick being doing what you say he is???

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:29 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:24 pm
And do you think since the summer? Around 4-5 months is a long time, in a Covid affected world, for a £200m takeover to be completed? That’s 16-22 weeks. It’s not a huge period of time.
Wasnt it mentioned earlier in this thread that several media outlets reported some weeks ago that talks had been going on then for around 12 months ?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by NewClaret » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:49 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:29 pm
Wasnt it mentioned earlier in this thread that several media outlets reported some weeks ago that talks had been going on then for around 12 months ?
I’d be amazed if any transaction of this scale got completed in less than 12 months from talks starting. Particularly in a pandemic. It can take upwards of 6 months to sell a house!

From CT’s latest update, my question is whether the bidders have had pandemic or performance-related cold feet and, if so, what that means for January/this season? The club needs lifting.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Top Claret » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:57 pm

Leisure wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:27 pm
So why would Mr Garlick being doing what you say he is???
I am not saying he would be doing that on purpose. What I am saying is that if he doesn't pull his finger out in agreeing a sale and runs the club in the way he has over the last 12 months, that is the way the club will go

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by DCWat » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:01 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:57 pm
I am not saying he would be doing that on purpose. What I am saying is that if he doesn't pull his finger out in agreeing a sale and runs the club in the way he has over the last 12 months, that is the way the club will go
Is that what you want? Cos that’s what’ll ‘appen.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:20 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:30 pm
Rovers had debt we haven't
I know that, of all people on here, I know that.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by warksclaret » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:37 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:13 pm
I have no idea what is going on with the takeover and there could be a whole number of reasons for the “delays”, but it is concerning me because we’re fast approaching January and you’d expect them to need to be in situ at least a few weeks to discuss budgets, players, etc. In some respects, coming on board very late December/early January could be more disruptive.

That said, I’d expect us to make some signings in January regardless. The value of the club falls off a cliff edge if we’re relegated, so you’d expect if talks are stalling for whatever reason, Garlick would take a gamble and invest to stay in the PL.
Suspect you are right, however if we go into the market expect Tarks being sold if the take-over has not been finalised

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by GrahamBranchsPerm » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:28 pm

Might be wrong and not read thread today yet so apologies if repeated info but ALK deal close. Possible end of this week or next

Their vision and business plan is solid enough. 4 man team. All will move to UK.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:31 pm

GrahamBranchsPerm wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:28 pm
Might be wrong and not read thread today yet so apologies if repeated info but ALK deal close. Possible end of this week or next

Their vision and business plan is solid enough. 4 man team. All will move to UK.

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Where is this info from GBP ?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:17 pm

No one else interested ? More activity on the Naked attraction and Coronation St threads 😄

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Steddyman » Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:26 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:17 pm
No one else interested ? More activity on the Naked attraction and Coronation St threads 😄
Apparently most people are only interest in the page number.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by GrahamBranchsPerm » Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:28 pm

It’s totally solid Random.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:33 pm

Thanks GBP

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Steddyman » Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:34 pm

Probably this article?

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/t ... i-19417285

Again nothing new or concrete in it.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:41 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:34 pm
Probably this article?

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/t ... i-19417285

Again nothing new or concrete in it.
I cant see any mention of the specifics GBP described in that article

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by GrahamBranchsPerm » Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:42 pm

Steddy.

I’ve not spent today reading every article out there, or even this board. Or anything at all today in fact footy related. I run a business so I’m pretty busy. I’ve had good info. I’ve decided to pass it on. I’m not saying I’m forecasting any Euro lottery numbers or anything exciting. But the expectation of this significant shareholder is that the deal will be sorted by next week with ALK.

Cheers.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Father Jack » Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:42 pm

GBP way back when - did you used to post as Robert Mugabe’s Spectacles?
Thanks

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Post by GrahamBranchsPerm » Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:56 pm

Was a mate - AJ - I think.

But not guilty, as funny as the name is.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:59 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:34 pm
Probably this article?

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/t ... i-19417285

Again nothing new or concrete in it.
Wouldn’t have thought so. They’ve been embarrassing repeating the same stuff time and time again.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by Steddyman » Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:01 pm

GrahamBranchsPerm wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:42 pm
Steddy.

I’ve not spent today reading every article out there, or even this board. Or anything at all today in fact footy related. I run a business so I’m pretty busy. I’ve had good info. I’ve decided to pass it on. I’m not saying I’m forecasting any Euro lottery numbers or anything exciting. But the expectation of this significant shareholder is that the deal will be sorted by next week with ALK.

Cheers.
Thanks GBP. I posted that in response to clarification before you posted your explanation (I had been compiling it a while).

That article is from this morning though and says in the next couple of weeks. So it does agree with you.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by NewClaret » Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:03 pm

GrahamBranchsPerm wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:42 pm
Steddy.

I’ve not spent today reading every article out there, or even this board. Or anything at all today in fact footy related. I run a business so I’m pretty busy. I’ve had good info. I’ve decided to pass it on. I’m not saying I’m forecasting any Euro lottery numbers or anything exciting. But the expectation of this significant shareholder is that the deal will be sorted by next week with ALK.

Cheers.
Thanks mate.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by GrahamBranchsPerm » Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:16 pm

Agree I’ve not posted anything wholly ‘new’ or P&C. I wouldn’t do that.

No guarantees in any M&As until signed and cash transferred as we know. But willing buyer and willing seller certainly helps.

But it’s looking positive. Let’s hope we can get a bit of cash in gents and Sean can steady the ship.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:31 pm

GrahamBranchsPerm wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:16 pm
Agree I’ve not posted anything wholly ‘new’ or P&C. I wouldn’t do that.

No guarantees in any M&As until signed and cash transferred as we know. But willing buyer and willing seller certainly helps.

But it’s looking positive. Let’s hope we can get a bit of cash in gents and Sean can steady the ship.

UTC.
Still not sure what’s happened but I was expecting it to be done last week. Whatever has happened isn’t a trivial matter but hopefully one that can be resolved.
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Post by GrahamBranchsPerm » Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:38 pm

Yes do hope so too. And certainly not professing to be in any detail.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:03 am

Only dip into this thread occasionally so could anybody tell me if either of the prospective new owners have had FA clearance yet. Or does that come after the deal with the board?

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:14 am

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:03 am
Only dip into this thread occasionally so could anybody tell me if either of the prospective new owners have had FA clearance yet. Or does that come after the deal with the board?
Nothing to do with the FA but any potential new owners will have to pass the Premier League’s owners & directors test.

Probably depends on those involved in a deal. Newcastle, for instance, announced their sale subject to the PL. Others get it all done before announcing anything.

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by bfcjg » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:33 am

My concern is that if ALK get weary of the protracted negotiations or look elsewhere it might open the door for Farnell or some other party.
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Post by Top Claret » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:34 am

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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:31 am

bfcjg wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:33 am
My concern is that if ALK get weary of the protracted negotiations or look elsewhere it might open the door for Farnell or some other party.
Or maybe they fully understand the complexities of completing such a deal and do not consider the negotiations to be protracted at all.

Just a thought.
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