Dwight v saint maximin

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:30 pm

There is the difference

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:31 pm

You mean the hair?

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:32 pm

I think he means the name

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:33 pm

Pace and power

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:35 pm

I’m amazed people on here think Pope Tarkowski and Dwight are some world class superstars, very good players for us.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:42 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:35 pm
I’m amazed people on here think Pope Tarkowski and Dwight are some world class superstars, very good players for us.

I don't think anyone has claimed they're world class.

CBT · Post by **CBT** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:45 pm

Tarks has had a decent game
Pope and mcneills value are dropping by the second

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:47 pm

to be fair, keepers have made mistakes in most games today so the conditions haven't helped for sure.

If we had a squad to choose from with better quality I'm sure McNeil would be on the bench now, looks lost

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:49 pm

I'm listening to this. But for those watching:
The games I've seen this season, I'd say our work off the ball is the worse in the Dyche era. Anyone agree?

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:49 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:33 pm
Pace and power

How about Messi v st maximim? How does that work out?

See how pointless your thread is yet?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:51 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:49 pm
I'm listening to this. But for those watching:
The games I've seen this season, I'd say our work off the ball is the worse in the Dyche era. Anyone agree?

we have had poor movement off the ball.

When we came up we worked harder than most teams and that made up for the lack of quality, the rest of the teams now work as hard if not harder than we do and also have the quality - if we don't add some serious quality we will go down this season for sure

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:59 pm

bobinho wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:49 pm
How about Messi v st maximim? How does that work out?

See how pointless your thread is yet?

Didn't know Messi was playing in this game you Muppet

Wellsy1882 · Post by **Wellsy1882** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:02 pm

Their lad ran us ragged
It was either foul or be skinned

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:09 pm

Hell of a player and won the game for them

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:11 pm

16.5m...

So at 15m for Wilson I presume we will be getting something similar yeah?

Yeah right.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:12 pm

Knobhead thread alert.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:14 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:59 pm
Didn't know Messi was playing in this game you Muppet

I didn't say he was... i was trying to make the point that your statement about Dwight being lighter and slower than St Maximim so therefore inferring he's a worse player/we are a worse team because of that is irrelevant. St Maximim is quicker and stronger than Messi, so your point kind of drifts off into the ether....you didn't get my point.
That's ok tho... i have explained it so you don't have to think that hard anymore, just read. Speak up if you are struggling with that too.... some teachers on here, they will help you out.

BTW, Messi wasn't playing in this game, how could you NOT know that?

I'm off to bed.... looks like the kids are starting to come out...

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:14 pm

Rednap nailing it on sky

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:15 pm

Totally different players. Can't compare the two. If you put nonsense into an equation you get nonsense out of it.

McNeil is a fantastic player who needs to be managed accordingly.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:16 pm

In a perfect world, they both play for the same team. When they turn up, they’d compliment each other very well.

Which is basically my way of saying we need some 1v1 ability on the right wing.

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:17 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:15 pm
Totally different players. Can't compare the two. If you put nonsense into an equation you get nonsense out of it.

McNeil is a fantastic player who needs to be managed accordingly.

Looking anything but fantastic since the re start

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:19 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:17 pm
Looking anything but fantastic since the re start

I agree.

However, he's a fantastic player. Anyone who can't see that must know very little when it comes to identifying fantastic players. He's 20 years old and is forced to play every single minute because he's the single creative outlet in a PL team. He's been flogged to death.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:31 pm

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:42 pm
I don't think anyone has claimed they're world class.

I have seen many on here claim those 3 are £50M+ players

fanzone · Post by **fanzone** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:38 pm

It's like having pocket aces and a 7 2 in a game of poker. One is clearly head and shoulders above the other.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:41 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:12 pm
Knobhead thread alert.

wouldn't be the weekend without one !

On to other more pressing matters, how's your pink elephant and when do you expect to get to the D.R.C ?

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:48 pm

we should stop describing McNeil as anything other than another Burnley player albeit a younger one

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:21 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:41 pm
wouldn't be the weekend without one !

On to other more pressing matters, how's your pink elephant and when do you expect to get to the D.R.C ?

Currently in Morocco smoking their finest in the hubbly bubbly pipes.

After tonight Congo can wait.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:28 am

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:31 pm
I have seen many on here claim those 3 are £50M+ players

They might be, but that still doesn't mean they're world class.

It says more about inflated transfer fees.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:33 am

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:31 pm
I have seen many on here claim those 3 are £50M+ players

Sigurdsson joined Everton for £45-50 million.
Rodriguez has joined them for over half that.

Only one of them could be called World class.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:38 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:33 am
Sigurdsson joined Everton for £45-50 million.
Rodriguez has joined them for over half that.

Only one of them could be called World class.

Fair point, Rodriguez is insanely good, one of the finest attacking midfield players in the world. Very strange to see Real under use him, same with Coutinho at Barca, although I think Coutinho has now started to feature heavily under Koeman.

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:01 am

If it was a top trumps card game I'd say:-

Skill : Dwight 8. S. Maxim 8

Ability to withstand a challenge without collapsing to the floor like a big Nancy Dwight 7 S. Maxim 1

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:13 am

Vintage Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:01 am
If it was a top trumps card game I'd say:-

Skill : Dwight 8. S. Maxim 8

Ability to withstand a challenge without collapsing to the floor like a big Nancy Dwight 7 S. Maxim 1

Dwight has no skill unfortunately just heads for the corner flag when receiving the ball. Taylor is being let down on that side massively.

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:53 am

Vintage Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:01 am
If it was a top trumps card game I'd say:-

Skill : Dwight 8. S. Maxim 8

Ability to withstand a challenge without collapsing to the floor like a big Nancy Dwight 7 S. Maxim 1

St maximim generally has the **** kicked out of him as a tactic. The summariser last night clearly had not watched newcastle's game at West ham where St. M pulled them to pieces and declan rice and others chopped St. M to pieces as it was the only way they could stop him. Hence the injury which unfortunately had worn off so that he could play us.
West ham looked a lot worse against them than we did btw.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:57 am

How about Dwight McNeil is a good player going through a tough patch and needs a bit of support? No surprises in who started this thread.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:10 am

I do worry about Dwight's confidence. When he is on his game and running at defenders he is a nightmare, but Maximin is trickier for sure.

That said Dwight's crossing is brilliant, far better than Maximin.

The difference, as many people have pointed out, is that other teams have worked out that if they shut out Mcneil, then we look completely devoid of creating chances.

I just hope Mcneil finds that confidence again to beat players and whip in those deadly crosses.

Sheedyclaret · Post by **Sheedyclaret** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:40 am

He miles off it the moment dwight keeps drifting inside to.. not sure if its tactics but seems like CT has to run the whole left side on his own attacking and defensively simply not good enough at the moment he's to passive in a game..

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:09 am

While we have been sitting on our hands and standing still as a club regarding transfers, other clubs (even those lower down the pyramid like Newcastle and Brighton) have brought in players with power, pace and trickery that can change a match and win them the game. Also, that can entertain and get the crowd off their feet if they were allowed back in.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:25 am

Vintage Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:01 am
If it was a top trumps card game I'd say:-

Skill : Dwight 8. S. Maxim 8

Ability to withstand a challenge without collapsing to the floor like a big Nancy Dwight 7 S. Maxim 1

Christ knows what Barnes’ score for the latter would be. Minus 10 maybe.

thelifeofbrian · Post by **thelifeofbrian** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:02 pm

based on last nights performance i know who id have..

Dy1geo · Post by **Dy1geo** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:10 pm

To me St Maximin is a bit of a throwback to the footballing entertainers of my childhood. He is an opposition player you end up watching just to see what he will do next.

Unlike Dwight, he doesn’t do any tracking back, Bardsley went past him and he never made any effort to win the ball. Bruce must say to him to say his energy when they are on the attack.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:29 pm

Brighton also have a player in Tariq Lamptey that adds pace and trickery to change a game. Something BFC is sadly lacking at the moment.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:37 pm

Our most important player is Ben Mee and has been for some considerable time.

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:40 pm

Dy1geo wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:10 pm
To me St Maximin is a bit of a throwback to the footballing entertainers of my childhood. He is an opposition player you end up watching just to see what he will do next.

Unlike Dwight, he doesn’t do any tracking back, Bardsley went past him and he never made any effort to win the ball. Bruce must say to him to say his energy when they are on the attack.

Agree about St.Max being a throw back. I do like watching him play, but not against us. They don't expect to track back , if he does it's a bonus. Unfortunately, in our system we can't afford to have anybody like that. I don't know how we can expect Dwight to keep carrying our main attacking hopes. We do need somebody to take some of the burden off him.