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Post by Right_winger » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:00 pm

I think it’s fairly obvious that Dyche will be off sooner rather than later. So you would think that the board won’t be blindsided by this and have a list of potential targets ready as a replacement.

Who do you think we should go for after Dyche?

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Re: Next manager

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:02 pm

He's well paid and has a secure job. We won't sack him and he won't resign.

So he'll be here until his contract runs down.

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Re: Next manager

Post by claretblue » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:02 pm

have we any former players that have held their wedding reception at Turf Moor? :?

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Re: Next manager

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:02 pm

They will have planned it as thoroughly as they plan each transfer window
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Re: Next manager

Post by Burnley Ace » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:10 pm

Big Sam😅

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Re: Next manager

Post by jojomk1 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:22 pm

Not sure when his current contract runs to but I think this will be his last, one way or another

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Re: Next manager

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:24 pm

Tony will know.

I think at one point it was a rolling yearly contract, but then somebody said he's got 2 years left.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Wellsy1882 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:29 pm

Any1 who plays fast attacking football
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Re: Next manager

Post by buzzclarets79 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:30 pm

Someone that will give the youth a chance from the academy and play football, and will allow some creative freedom in our play.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Sproggy » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:33 pm

Wellsy1882 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:29 pm
Any1 who plays fast attacking football
That would be no good - none of our players would be able to keep up with it.
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Re: Next manager

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:34 pm

buzzclarets79 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:30 pm
Someone that will give the youth a chance from the academy and play football, and will allow some creative freedom in our play.
So you've not seen our accounts.

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Re: Next manager

Post by jojomk1 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:35 pm

Thomas Frank

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Re: Next manager

Post by tarkys_ears » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:43 pm

Runs out 2022.

Presumably END of season that year?

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Re: Next manager

Post by claretburns » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:45 pm

Don't blame me, you wanted to see the list. Next Burnley Manager odds:

1. Ian Woan 10/3
2. Sam Allardyce 5/1
3. Alan Pardew 6/1
4. Mark Hughes 9/1
5. Paul Clement 11/1
6. Lee Johnson/Joey Barton 13/1

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Re: Next manager

Post by Zlatan » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:50 pm

for me it should be Mickey Duff... but not yet, too soon

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pearcey » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:50 pm

Eddie Howe. He could buy some great youngsters, play dreadful football, get homesick and leave. By that time, Dyche would be available again and the good times could roll! Failing that, I don’t even want to think about Dyche leaving.
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Re: Next manager

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:55 pm

I'm still waiting for Dyche to join Palace, Newcastle, Sunderland, Forest, Villa, Everton and anyone else he's been linked with and people on here were absolutely adamant he was off to one of those clubs.

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Re: Next manager

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:56 pm

claretburns wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:45 pm
Don't blame me, you wanted to see the list. Next Burnley Manager odds:

1. Ian Woan 10/3
2. Sam Allardyce 5/1
3. Alan Pardew 6/1
4. Mark Hughes 9/1
5. Paul Clement 11/1
6. Lee Johnson/Joey Barton 13/1

2-4 are just the same tiresome names on the usual next manager lists.

Clement is just a cone putter outer.

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Re: Next manager

Post by tiger76 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:56 pm

claretburns wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:45 pm
Don't blame me, you wanted to see the list. Next Burnley Manager odds:

1. Ian Woan 10/3
2. Sam Allardyce 5/1
3. Alan Pardew 6/1
4. Mark Hughes 9/1
5. Paul Clement 11/1
6. Lee Johnson/Joey Barton 13/1
I wouldn't pay too much attention to bookies odds, especially for any incoming managers, they rarely get those correct.

If I had to prune 3 from that bunch it'd be Hughes & Johnson, maybe Joey at a push, I'd also throw Alexander, Cook, Duff & McGreal into the mix if we want to go down the ex-player route.

Woan- no too much continuity.

Allardyce- no thanks he'd leave the club a wreck.

Pardew- there's a reason he hasn't been employed for several years he's a busted flush.

Clement- blimey no he couldn't hack it at Derby with buckets of cash to spend.

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Re: Next manager

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:57 pm

Alex Neil at Preston?
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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:01 pm

claretburns wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:45 pm
Don't blame me, you wanted to see the list. Next Burnley Manager odds:

1. Ian Woan 10/3
2. Sam Allardyce 5/1
3. Alan Pardew 6/1
4. Mark Hughes 9/1
5. Paul Clement 11/1
6. Lee Johnson/Joey Barton 13/1
any of :
2. Sam Allardyce 5/1
3. Alan Pardew 6/1
4. Mark Hughes 9/1

and I'll be finding something else to do with my time
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Re: Next manager

Post by ayrshireclaret83 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:01 pm

Paul cook

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Re: Next manager

Post by summitclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:03 pm

Is Hughton still available?
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Re: Next manager

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:05 pm

Why do people think that hiring Paul Cook or Michael Duff would be any more successful than the last time we hired an ex-player with no managerial experience at Premier League level?

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Re: Next manager

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:07 pm

There isn't a vacancy.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:07 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:05 pm
Why do people think that hiring Paul Cook or Michael Duff would be any more successful than the last time we hired an ex-player with no managerial experience at Premier League level?
Just a hunch a more realistic proposition than klopp or mourinho.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:11 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:07 pm
Just a hunch a more realistic proposition than klopp or mourinho.
Unsurprisingly, that doesn't make sense.

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Re: Next manager

Post by BleedingClaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:11 pm

John ColemanPaul Cook
I think they are actually 1 person
Or Joey Barton
Who may be their love child

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Re: Next manager

Post by Burnley1989 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:14 pm

claretburns wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:45 pm
Don't blame me, you wanted to see the list. Next Burnley Manager odds:

1. Ian Woan 10/3
2. Sam Allardyce 5/1
3. Alan Pardew 6/1
4. Mark Hughes 9/1
5. Paul Clement 11/1
6. Lee Johnson/Joey Barton 13/1
Cant stand Woan, not sure why I just get annoyed at his smarmy face. He reminds me of Mr Burns off the Simpsons when he goes over and talks behind his hand to Dyche.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Burnley1989 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:15 pm

Hughton would be my choice at our budget
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Re: Next manager

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:16 pm

claretburns wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:45 pm
Don't blame me, you wanted to see the list. Next Burnley Manager odds:

1. Ian Woan 10/3
2. Sam Allardyce 5/1
3. Alan Pardew 6/1
4. Mark Hughes 9/1
5. Paul Clement 11/1
6. Lee Johnson/Joey Barton 13/1
So basically, none of them.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:17 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:07 pm
There isn't a vacancy.
Yet

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Re: Next manager

Post by conyoviejo » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:18 pm

Can't see Klopp on that list.

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Re: Next manager

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:19 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:17 pm
Yet
Won't be for 2 years.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Top Claret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:20 pm

Andy Farrel with Vince Overson as is No 2.

The club now appears to be going backwards and this would be a typical 80s Teasdale esc appointment

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Re: Next manager

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:22 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:14 pm
Cant stand Woan, not sure why I just get annoyed at his smarmy face. He reminds me of Mr Burns off the Simpsons when he goes over and talks behind his hand to Dyche.
Wow. Just wow.

:shock:

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Re: Next manager

Post by warksclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:29 pm

Woan will stay with SD. Strikes me as a YES man

For me Chris Hughton because by then we will need someone with experience of getting us out of the Championship. He also will have knowledge of players in the Championship and lower divisions. The next manager will need to do a rebuilding job. Unless he insists on an assistant of his choice, Michael Duff to be his assistant, as he knows the club well. I feel Michael is an easy coach to work with

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:30 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:22 pm
Not sure when his current contract runs to but I think this will be his last, one way or another
End of 2021/22 season

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:31 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:29 pm
Woan will stay with SD. Strikes me as a YES man

Woany a yes man, you could not be more wrong.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Zlatan » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:33 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:05 pm
Why do people think that hiring Paul Cook or Michael Duff would be any more successful than the last time we hired an ex-player with no managerial experience at Premier League level?
How much Premier League experience did Dyche have? In fact how many games had he managed prior to coming here (49 wasn’t it...?)

In fact, can I ask how many times does a manager manage a team in the Premier League before they manage their first team in the Premier League?

Don’t forget that Duff was an actual team manager with us whilst in the Premier League (albeit u18) and he has managed a small town club since, that counts for something even before you consider he was a massively successful player for us as well as someone who is held in high regard.

F#ck it, you’re probably right - let’s get fat Sam or Pardew and let them p!ss money we don’t have away on show pony mercenaries, that’ll work.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:34 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:31 pm
Woany a yes man, you could not be more wrong.
Thought that of Tindall, look at him now

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Re: Next manager

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:35 pm

If SD went tomorrow, I would take Allardyce.

Not sure many fans wouldn't take him, to be fair. He's kept more clubs up than I've had sausage sandwiches.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:39 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:34 pm
Thought that of Tindall, look at him now
Working for Howe, Tindall was very much a yes man. Woany very definitely isn't.

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Re: Next manager

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:39 pm
Working for Howe, Tindall was very much a yes man. Woany very definitely isn't.
Tony, who would be your number one choice if SD did ever leave?

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:42 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:05 pm
Why do people think that hiring Paul Cook or Michael Duff would be any more successful than the last time we hired an ex-player with no managerial experience at Premier League level?
Zlatan wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:33 pm
How much Premier League experience did Dyche have? In fact how many games had he managed prior to coming here (49 wasn’t it...?)

We didn't recruit Dyche for the Premier League and he'd managed at the level we were at. As Rileybobs has said, nothing to suggest Cook or Duff would be good candidates but there always seems to be a clamour for an ex-player.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:44 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:41 pm
Tony, who would be your number one choice if SD did ever leave?
I simply have no idea to be honest. I do fear Hughes given his links with Rigg but I don't know who I'd want. Did I want Dyche? Not particularly but I didn't get the opportunity to interview him and I'm told he blew us away with the interview which left him the number one candidate by some distance. I'm not advocating Big Sam at all but he's the one that's been closest to Dyche in terms of treating the players with respect and honesty.
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Re: Next manager

Post by warksclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:44 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:31 pm
Woany a yes man, you could not be more wrong.
OK-thanks Tony. I have totally misjudged him then, and I prefer that he isn't and speaks his mind. When Sean turns round to him in games he generally just seems to nod in agreement which is what I based it on, plus I have yet to seem him do an interview, or stand in for Sean
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Re: Next manager

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:44 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:33 pm
How much Premier League experience did Dyche have? In fact how many games had he managed prior to coming here (49 wasn’t it...?)

In fact, can I ask how many times does a manager manage a team in the Premier League before they manage their first team in the Premier League?

Don’t forget that Duff was an actual team manager with us whilst in the Premier League (albeit u18) and he has managed a small town club since, that counts for something even before you consider he was a massively successful player for us as well as someone who is held in high regard.

F#ck it, you’re probably right - let’s get fat Sam or Pardew and let them p!ss money we don’t have away on show pony mercenaries, that’ll work.
Exactly, everybody has to start off somewhere, people tend to work up gradually in most cases, it's unlikely a milkman is going to give his round up & take over at Barcelona, it's normal when discussing potential managers to be suggesting associates ex players especially such as duff & Barton who already have some managerial experience albeit not at PL level yet.

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Re: Next manager

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:44 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:42 pm
We didn't recruit Dyche for the Premier League and he'd managed at the level we were at. As Rileybobs has said, nothing to suggest Cook or Duff would be good candidates but there always seems to be a clamour for an ex-player.
There was no clamour for Laws.

:(

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Re: Next manager

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:49 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:44 pm
I simply have no idea to be honest. I do fear Hughes given his links with Rigg but I don't know who I'd want. Did I want Dyche? Not particularly but I didn't get the opportunity to interview him and I'm told he blew us away with the interview which left him the number one candidate by some distance. I'm not advocating Big Sam at all but he's the one that's been closest to Dyche in terms of treating the players with respect and honesty.
I think along similar lines.

But I do also think Big Sam is a stay up strategy and not try and improve on what we've done with finishing 7th and 10th over the last 3 seasons. It would be a case of finish 17th and that'll do.
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