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Post by ClaretMov » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:08 pm

Time to sell up and move over

The only club in the premier league not to improve the startling line up

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Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:09 pm

there was an effort ?

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Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:09 pm

Yes, we've got a very startling line up. :lol: :lol:
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Post by kentonclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:12 pm

The only club in the Premier League owned and run by local business men none of whom are multi millionaires.
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Post by LoveCurryPies » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:15 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:12 pm
The only club in the Premier League owned and run by local business men none of whom are multi millionaires.
Well that’s not true so it shows how stupid you are!
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Post by tim_noone » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:20 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:15 pm
Well that’s not true so it shows how stupid you are!
:D

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Post by TVC15 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:20 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:12 pm
The only club in the Premier League owned and run by local business men none of whom are multi BILLIONAIRES.
I’ve corrected your error for you

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Post by karatekid » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:22 pm

Let’s all calm down. The championship was always going to be our target market for any new signings. Did anyone really expect us to buy a current premier league player? We have two weeks to strengthen and no games in that time. Players coming back from injury as well. We will be OK. 👍
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Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:23 pm

Dyche has already dismissed the extended domestic window

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Post by BurnleyHeff » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:25 pm

I really wish we had a board such as Bolton, Macclesfield, Wigan, Bury and the many others who will no doubt struggle massive financial issues in the next few years. Yes it's frustrating but people need a reality check
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Post by Damo » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:26 pm

This angry outburst could have been posted on one of the other angry outburst threads, surely?

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Post by DCWat » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:26 pm

karatekid wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:22 pm
Let’s all calm down. The championship was always going to be our target market for any new signings. Did anyone really expect us to buy a current premier league player? We have two weeks to strengthen and no games in that time. Players coming back from injury as well. We will be OK. 👍
We’ve been told this, window after window.

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Post by LoveCurryPies » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:28 pm

How many of the Premier League clubs are small towns?

In terms of fan base size, we are probably a Championship team but the players, manager and support staff, board and owners, have given us 5 years in the PL. A huge achievement!

We can go on but only if we are all united. I understand your hopes of major signings and massive budgets. But that was never going to happen.

It’s time for all to dig deep, grow some huge ********, and fight on. Despite the poor start to this season, we are quite capable of finishing mid table. UTC!
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Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:29 pm

BurnleyHeff wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:25 pm
I really wish we had a board such as Bolton, Macclesfield, Wigan, Bury and the many others who will no doubt struggle massive financial issues in the next few years. Yes it's frustrating but people need a reality check
Ah yes, because there are no other alternatives are there.
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Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:30 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:28 pm
How many of the Premier League clubs are small towns?

In terms of fan base size, we are probably a Championship team but the players, manager and support staff, board and owners, have given us 5 years in the PL. A huge achievement!

We can go on but only if we are all united. I understand your hopes of major signings and massive budgets. But that was never going to happen.

It’s time for all to dig deep, grow some huge ********, and fight on. Despite the poor start to this season, we are quite capable of finishing mid table. UTC!
Signings and a budget would be a start to be fair.

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Post by JohnMcGreal » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:32 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:28 pm
How many of the Premier League clubs are small towns?

In terms of fan base size, we are probably a Championship team but the players, manager and support staff, board and owners, have given us 5 years in the PL. A huge achievement!

We can go on but only if we are all united. I understand your hopes of major signings and massive budgets. But that was never going to happen.

It’s time for all to dig deep, grow some huge ********, and fight on. Despite the poor start to this season, we are quite capable of finishing mid table. UTC!
It's pointless asking the fans to be united when the manager and the chairman aren't even united.
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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:34 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:29 pm
Ah yes, because there are no other alternatives are there.
How Burnley is ran currently is the only alternative.

All of the aforementioned clubs relied on their owners to dig deep into their own pockets.
When the funding stopped the problems began.

Burnley relies on its normal income, hence no debt, no bank overdraft, no loans from directors or otherwise.
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Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:35 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:34 pm
How Burnley is ran currently is the only alternative.

All of the aforementioned clubs relied on their owners to dig deep into their own pockets.
When the funding stopped the problems began.

Burnley relies on its normal income, hence no debt, no bank overdraft, no loans from directors or otherwise.
Until normal service resumes in the Championship

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Post by karatekid » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:36 pm

DCWat wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:26 pm
We’ve been told this, window after window.
Yeah,and window after window we have survived. Even excelled.
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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:36 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:30 pm
Signings and a budget would be a start to be fair.
A budget would be lovely. Why didn’t our board think of that? Is this where Chester Perry’s infamous Magic Money Tree comes to life?

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Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:37 pm

karatekid wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:36 pm
Yeah,and window after window we have survived. Even excelled.
Until......

And because of the best manager we have had, who we don't p ss off....hang on
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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:37 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:35 pm
Until normal service resumes in the Championship
It may not, we may yoyo for a bit from Championship to PL etc.

No one on here can predict the future.

The doom mongers predict and hope for failure so they can be proven right.
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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:39 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:37 pm
Until......
Yes. Until one day we finally will get relegated. It will happen.

You’re going to be in for a shock when somebody explains your mortality to you.
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Post by Paul Waine » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:39 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:36 pm
A budget would be lovely. Why didn’t our board think of that? Is this where Chester Perry’s infamous Magic Money Tree comes to life?
Hey Rileybobs, if you don't mind, it should be Chester Perry's FAMOUS Magic Money Tree - it's the best thread on this mb.

UTC
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Post by Elizabeth » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:40 pm

So the manager who wants new blood in the squad has dismissed the idea of signing outside the Premier League.
Stop making things up

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Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:40 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:39 pm
Yes. Until one day we finally will get relegated. It will happen.

You’re going to be in for a shock when somebody explains your mortality to you.
Yes, but one tries to put it off! don't they

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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:41 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:40 pm
Yes, but one tries to put it off! don't they
Which we have, clearly.

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Post by DCWat » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:43 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:37 pm
It may not, we may yoyo for a bit from Championship to PL etc.

No one on here can predict the future.

The doom mongers predict and hope for failure so they can be proven right.
That’s just nonsense.

There isn’t one person that hopes for failure.

There isn’t one person that wants us to spend so ridiculously that we risk the future of the club.

Some wheeling and dealing, imagination, expansion of the market that we shop in, perhaps a little risk, identifying players of a good age (with potential resale value) and getting a few deals over the line.

That is NOT hoping for failure or risking the future of the club.
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Post by Paul Waine » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:45 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:12 pm
The only club in the Premier League owned and run by local business men none of whom are multi millionaires.
Hi Kenton, apologies, I feel the need to be pedantic this evening. Mike G and John B are both locally born and raised businessmen. They are both Burnley fans. Both their businesses are worth tens of millions. However, their respective businesses are multinational rather than local.

The challenge is that they aren't billionaires - and that seems to be the going rate for football club ownership these days.

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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:46 pm

DCWat wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:43 pm

There isn’t one person that wants us to spend so ridiculously that we risk the future of the club.
That may be true. But there are clearly an awful lot of people who don’t have the most basic grasp of the club’s financial position. So without spending ridiculously, how do we spend money that we don’t have? I’d love someone to actually provide an answer to that.
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Post by Boss Hogg » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:47 pm

Let’s hope we can strengthen the right hand side of the pitch and central defence ( if Mee is out for a while) from elsewhere. Why did we pull out of Wilson ? It’s sounds like we didn’t fancy him anymore and it wasn’t about the fee in the end ? A bit of strengthening and not betting the ranch and most fans would be happy enough.

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Post by mdd2 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:48 pm

I am disappointed but it really looks, as like ITV Digital, Covid has really knocked us back. We cannot carry on punching above our weight. Most of the Prem money has been spent and for me the last 12 years will have seen us spend 7 at the top table and if this is the last season in this league so be it. Those from OC onwards who along with BK and other Board members and the present chairman as well as SD EH and even BL (gave us Deanno) deserve my thanks for a dream I never expected to come true. Very likely a sad 2020-21 season with wholesale changes to come-but we have had a good attempt at it and maybe if we go down we may get back with some of the youngsters who are coming through.
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Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:48 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:41 pm
Which we have, clearly.
No we are putting all the hard work at risk

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Post by mdd2 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:49 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:47 pm
Let’s hope we can strengthen the right hand side of the pitch and central defence ( if Mee is out for a while) from elsewhere. Why did we pull out of Wilson ? It’s sounds like we didn’t fancy him anymore and it wasn’t about the fee in the end ? A bit of strengthening and not betting the ranch and most fans would be happy enough.
£££££££££££££££-we don't have any, if we had we would have used it I am sure

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Post by DCWat » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:49 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:46 pm
That may be true. But there are clearly an awful lot of people who don’t have the most basic grasp of the club’s financial position. So without spending ridiculously, how do we spend money that we don’t have? I’d love someone to actually provide an answer to that.
We have no money, zero?

We’ve lost a number of high earners from the wage bill. Does that not free up money for loans or indeed signings, considering the fees are not paid in full, immediately?

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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:50 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:48 pm
No we are putting all the hard work at risk
We’re at risk of relegation every season. We have successfully avoided it thus far.

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Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:53 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:50 pm
We’re at risk of relegation every season. We have successfully avoided it thus far.
Higher now though isn't it

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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:55 pm

DCWat wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:49 pm
We have no money, zero?

We’ve lost a number of high earners from the wage bill. Does that not free up money for loans or indeed signings, considering the fees are not paid in full, immediately?
I don’t know how much money we have. Mike Garlick has access to the clubs bank statements and he also has access to the club’s financial forecast which will factor in a worst case scenario income projection due to Covid. If he’s not spending any money I think it’s fair to say we don’t have very much, and he’s making sure that the little we do have is enough to get us through the current situation.

That’s why I think the people lambasting him (and I’m not including you in this) can’t be taken seriously. Because they don’t know what financial position the club is in.
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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:56 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:53 pm
Higher now though isn't it
Yep. Just like your mortality isn’t it. A bit grim when you think about it, but best not to let it get you too down.

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Post by Banana » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:56 pm

All you who are complaining need a reality check. How can you call yourselves proper fans yet come on here complaining when we spend £2m in a transfer window. I can only guess you was not at the Leyton Orient game.
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Post by DCWat » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:58 pm

Banana wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:56 pm
All you who are complaining need a reality check. How can you call yourselves proper fans yet come on here complaining when we spend £2m in a transfer window. I can only guess you was not at the Leyton Orient game.
Full house!!
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Post by Wokingclaret » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:01 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:56 pm
Yep. Just like your mortality isn’t it. A bit grim when you think about it, but best not to let it get you too down.
Yep, just like you TIK TOK TIK TOK

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:01 am

DCWat wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:49 pm
We have no money, zero?

We’ve lost a number of high earners from the wage bill. Does that not free up money for loans or indeed signings, considering the fees are not paid in full, immediately?
Some transfer fees are paid in full immediately.
In this current environment I'd suspect more clubs will want more upfront, something that's been alluded on the money tree thread.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:04 am

DCWat wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:43 pm
That’s just nonsense.

There isn’t one person that hopes for failure.

There isn’t one person that wants us to spend so ridiculously that we risk the future of the club.

Some wheeling and dealing, imagination, expansion of the market that we shop in, perhaps a little risk, identifying players of a good age (with potential resale value) and getting a few deals over the line.

That is NOT hoping for failure or risking the future of the club.
Some of the mard arses on here would love it if the club got relegated.
They're crowing now because they believe that everything they've been ranting about the last few transfer windows is coming true in their minfs

Yes they want money spending but they've never ever considered other financial implications, like the current Covid climate.

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Post by Rileybobs » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:05 am

Wokingclaret wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:01 am
Yep, just like you TIK TOK TIK TOK
Er, yeah. I didn’t think I was exempt from death.
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Post by DCWat » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:10 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:04 am
Some of the mard arses on here would love it if the club got relegated.
They're crowing now because they believe that everything they've been ranting about the last few transfer windows is coming true in their minfs

Yes they want money spending but they've never ever considered other financial implications, like the current Covid climate.
There are the implications of an increased risk of relegation though.

I appreciate it’s a balancing act, particularly during rather uncertain times, but must admit that I think the scales have been weighted too heavily in favour of short term prudence.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:15 am

DCWat wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:10 am
There are the implications of an increased risk of relegation though.

I appreciate it’s a balancing act, particularly during rather uncertain times, but must admit that I think the scales have been weighted too heavily in favour of short term prudence.
If it had been a normal season and year then we wouldn't be having these discussions because the money in the bank would be getting used on transfers.

The club doesn't aim for short term prudence, the aim is to finish in the black regularly and the fact that we have done has meant we had spare money to help keep the club afloat during this pandemic.

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Post by DCWat » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:18 am

I’d argue that the aim this season is short term prudence, with a gamble on us being able to stay up. Quite a gamble with a paper thin squad and potentially a far bigger impact if we do go down.
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Re: PATHETIC EFFORT BY THE BOARD

Post by claret54 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:57 am

DCWat wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:26 pm
We’ve been told this, window after window.
And we have had successful seasons window after window.
We are a well run club with a very good manager. I think we will have another good season.

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Re: PATHETIC EFFORT BY THE BOARD

Post by KRBFC » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:16 am

People are still making excuses for the board?

Probably casual Burnley fans with little emotional attachment to the club. Any true Burnley fan has felt let down by the club this window.

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