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Our Championship squad next year

Post by KRBFC » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:53 pm

If we are relegated, how do we possibly bounce back if this is what we are left with? I used transfermarkt for contract lengths.

Sales - Wood Taylor Pope Tarkowski McNeil

Out of contract - Rodriguez, Brady, JBG, Cork, Pieters, Vydra, Lowton, Long, Bardsley, Dunne.

Remaining:

GK- Peacock Farrell, Norris
RB - 0
CB - Gibson? Mee
LB - 0
LM - 0
CM - Brownhill Stephens Westwood
RM - 0
ST - Barnes

7 players + Gibson, we desperately need to sort out the contracts ASAP which means we are likely gonna be extending contracts for players we’d have likely preferred to replace.

It’s gonna be a huge rebuild and who knows if Dyche will remain to rebuild?

This season is enormous for us, if only we’d have backed Dyche adequately, now we’re gonna need some extreme luck.
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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by randomclaret2 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:54 pm

Shhh...everythings fine..

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:57 pm

We may very well go down this season. But the doomsday predictions on here, considering we’ve got a squad about as strong as the one which started last season, have been nothing short of hysterical.
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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by dougcollins » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:00 pm

Going down is never an option. I can't believe how blase some on here are thinking we will simply 'bounce back up'.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by tim_noone » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:02 pm

Have we really lost 3 games?

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:06 pm

We're doomed I tell thee.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:08 pm

No point in worrying about what you can't affect.
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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Dyched » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:24 pm

You’re not allowed to play 2 GK krbfc

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:32 pm

FFS
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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:59 pm

Ok I will play along.

It's exciting isn't it. If your sales go ahead we will bring in around 150m to rebuild a squad.

If not we will have 2 former top scorers in the championship in Wood and Vydra with Jay Rod not far behind.
The goalkeeping department looks very good from what I have seen.
Ben Mee won't get outpaced that often.

The youngsters will be a year more advanced and closer to a first team place that is more likely in the league below.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by dsr » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:13 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:53 pm
If we are relegated, how do we possibly bounce back if this is what we are left with? I used transfermarkt for contract lengths.
Why on earth would you use transfermarkt? There's a very good site called UpTheClarets.com (have you heard of it? :roll: ) that's written by someone with a lot more local knowledge than transfermarkt, and that says that Rodriguez, Pieters and Vydra all have club options for an extra year.

Besides which, in your long "everything that can possibly go wrong will go wrong" rant, you forgot to mention that Turf Moor is going to be destroyed by a football-pitch sized asteroid before next summer. At least, it's not impossible and it would be bad news, so I think we can assume it will happen?
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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by tiger76 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:17 pm

The biggest worry is who replaces Dyche should he decide to leave, on paper we'd have a decent Championship squad, even with a few departures we would be one of the favourites for promotion, however who'd be the man to mould us into a team in the way Sean did during his Championship tenure.

I could only see Pope & Tarks being certain to exit should the worst happen, and we should be looking at reasonable amounts for both.

Of the ooc players I'd keep Cork, Dunne, Jay Rod, Long, Vydra, and possibly Pieters, the rest can go for me.

We may not need to make wholesale changes if some of the youngsters continue developing as they have been, and if one or two can come through the system, that could save us forking out unnecessarily.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Dyched » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:19 pm

Maybe the Americans will change us to a Baseball team? No need to worry about the Championship. Bring on the Dodgers! Decent away fortnight! Leisure, start the engines!!
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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by KRBFC » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:44 pm

dsr wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:13 pm
Why on earth would you use transfermarkt? There's a very good site called UpTheClarets.com (have you heard of it? :roll: ) that's written by someone with a lot more local knowledge than transfermarkt, and that says that Rodriguez, Pieters and Vydra all have club options for an extra year.

Besides which, in your long "everything that can possibly go wrong will go wrong" rant, you forgot to mention that Turf Moor is going to be destroyed by a football-pitch sized asteroid before next summer. At least, it's not impossible and it would be bad news, so I think we can assume it will happen?
I didn’t say everything that can go wrong will go wrong, I stated the need for the board to sort out the contracts ASAP and highlighted why.

I also emphasised the importance of this season, we aren’t relegated after 3 games and the window isn’t quite shut for us just yet, there’s still hope we can turn it around in the window and in the league.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by KRBFC » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:47 pm

I also started the post with “IF WE ARE RELEGATED” not “WHEN”, you see the difference yet?

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by dsr » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:52 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:44 pm
I didn’t say everything that can go wrong will go wrong, I stated the need for the board to sort out the contracts ASAP and highlighted why.

I also emphasised the importance of this season, we aren’t relegated after 3 games and the window isn’t quite shut for us just yet, there’s still hope we can turn it around in the window and in the league.
Where in your lengthy post was the bit of brightness that wasn't a sign of everything going wrong?

Anyway, you haven't answered my question. If Turf Moor is hit by an asteroid, what do we do about it?

(Incidentally, as you have evidently failed to notice the Board has always been very good at getting players to sign extended contracts. That's one of the reasons the squad is getting older, in case you hadn't noticed - that when we get a really good player, we tend to keep him.)

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:54 pm

Also if we did get 150m in from sales, how good would it be to get a progressive manager in who would buy 10 15m 23/24yr olds on the upward curve?
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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by CBT » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:10 am

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:53 pm
If we are relegated, how do we possibly bounce back if this is what we are left with? I used transfermarkt for contract lengths.

Sales - Wood Taylor Pope Tarkowski McNeil

Out of contract - Rodriguez, Brady, JBG, Cork, Pieters, Vydra, Lowton, Long, Bardsley, Dunne.

Remaining:

GK- Peacock Farrell, Norris
RB - 0
CB - Gibson? Mee
LB - 0
LM - 0
CM - Brownhill Stephens Westwood
RM - 0
ST - Barnes

7 players + Gibson, we desperately need to sort out the contracts ASAP which means we are likely gonna be extending contracts for players we’d have likely preferred to replace.

It’s gonna be a huge rebuild and who knows if Dyche will remain to rebuild?

This season is enormous for us, if only we’d have backed Dyche adequately, now we’re gonna need some extreme luck.
Your assuming someone would take Pope,tarkowski, McNeil,wood
If we go down they won't have done their job so why would they be in such high demand?

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:14 am

CBT wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:10 am
Your assuming someone would take Pope,tarkowski, McNeil,wood
If we go down they won't have done their job so why would they be in such high demand?
We signed Pope after he'd been relegated from the championship, same with Heaton.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by KRBFC » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:24 am

dsr wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:52 pm
Where in your lengthy post was the bit of brightness that wasn't a sign of everything going wrong?

Anyway, you haven't answered my question. If Turf Moor is hit by an asteroid, what do we do about it?

(Incidentally, as you have evidently failed to notice the Board has always been very good at getting players to sign extended contracts. That's one of the reasons the squad is getting older, in case you hadn't noticed - that when we get a really good player, we tend to keep him.)
Dyche wasn’t particularly pleased with how quickly the board sorted out player contracts, I’d like clarity on who’s staying and going immediately, I’m not confident in players producing when they’re unclear on where their future lies, I don’t see how having 10 first team players in their final year is a positive thing at all, detrimental to our current league season.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:34 am

I make it 6, with another few where the club has the option of an extra year.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:03 am

joking aside, stay up OR go down it's going to be a huge issue, zero need to knock the OP as they are only really asking a sensible question and making a very valid point
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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by grapidianclaret » Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:26 am

My wife is Canadian. She often asks why I am such a depressive miserable Bas***d. I introduced her to Uptheclarets at the start of this season. Good marriage counciling right here.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by superdimitri » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:19 am

grapidianclaret wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:26 am
My wife is Canadian. She often asks why I am such a depressive miserable Bas***d. I introduced her to Uptheclarets at the start of this season. Good marriage counciling right here.
Maybe a good analogy to make would be if her local NHL Hockey team was on the verge of relegation from the NHL to AHL. Of course relegation isn't a factor in hockey, but the thought of that to a keen Hockey fan might be relatable :lol:

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:21 am

If we go down we desperately need to freshen the squad up with some younger blood. The problem with all these 30+ year olds is that they're financially made for life, will they have the hunger for another slog in the Championship, just to get promoted to a league which they know will be a big struggle for them.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by DomBFC1882 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:26 am

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:53 pm
If we are relegated, how do we possibly bounce back if this is what we are left with? I used transfermarkt for contract lengths.

Sales - Wood Taylor Pope Tarkowski McNeil

Out of contract - Rodriguez, Brady, JBG, Cork, Pieters, Vydra, Lowton, Long, Bardsley, Dunne.

Remaining:

GK- Peacock Farrell, Norris
RB - 0
CB - Gibson? Mee
LB - 0
LM - 0
CM - Brownhill Stephens Westwood
RM - 0
ST - Barnes

7 players + Gibson, we desperately need to sort out the contracts ASAP which means we are likely gonna be extending contracts for players we’d have likely preferred to replace.

It’s gonna be a huge rebuild and who knows if Dyche will remain to rebuild?

This season is enormous for us, if only we’d have backed Dyche adequately, now we’re gonna need some extreme luck.
Its extremely worrying and to think people say we don't have money to spend neither :o

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:01 am

With Vydra I think we have the option of an extra year.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:01 am

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:53 pm
If we are relegated, how do we possibly bounce back if this is what we are left with? I used transfermarkt for contract lengths.

Sales - Wood Taylor Pope Tarkowski McNeil

Out of contract - Rodriguez, Brady, JBG, Cork, Pieters, Vydra, Lowton, Long, Bardsley, Dunne.

Remaining:

GK- Peacock Farrell, Norris
RB - 0
CB - Gibson? Mee
LB - 0
LM - 0
CM - Brownhill Stephens Westwood
RM - 0
ST - Barnes

7 players + Gibson, we desperately need to sort out the contracts ASAP which means we are likely gonna be extending contracts for players we’d have likely preferred to replace.

It’s gonna be a huge rebuild and who knows if Dyche will remain to rebuild?

This season is enormous for us, if only we’d have backed Dyche adequately, now we’re gonna need some extreme luck.

Its been bad planning for a couple of years as all we seem to do is extend contracts no matter what the age - lets hope some of these young lads are going to be good enough but not looking good.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:06 am

Heaton

Bardsley Dunne Mee Ward

JBG Stephens Westwood Lennon

Barnes Jay

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Post by Spike » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:19 am

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:53 pm
If we are relegated, how do we possibly bounce back if this is what we are left with? I used transfermarkt for contract lengths.

Sales - Wood Taylor Pope Tarkowski McNeil

Out of contract - Rodriguez, Brady, JBG, Cork, Pieters, Vydra, Lowton, Long, Bardsley, Dunne.

Remaining:

GK- Peacock Farrell, Norris
RB - 0
CB - Gibson? Mee
LB - 0
LM - 0
CM - Brownhill Stephens Westwood
RM - 0
ST - Barnes

7 players + Gibson, we desperately need to sort out the contracts ASAP which means we are likely gonna be extending contracts for players we’d have likely preferred to replace.

It’s gonna be a huge rebuild and who knows if Dyche will remain to rebuild?

This season is enormous for us, if only we’d have backed Dyche adequately, now we’re gonna need some extreme luck.
We won’t be relegated!
Some people get the weirdest thoughts!
Lockdown really isn’t agreeing with you!

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Wellsy1882 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:45 am

I cant see us being relegated in the next 5 years

Too many worse teams

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by ClaretMov » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:54 am

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:53 pm
If we are relegated, how do we possibly bounce back if this is what we are left with? I used transfermarkt for contract lengths.

Sales - Wood Taylor Pope Tarkowski McNeil

Out of contract - Rodriguez, Brady, JBG, Cork, Pieters, Vydra, Lowton, Long, Bardsley, Dunne.

Remaining:

GK- Peacock Farrell, Norris
RB - 0
CB - Gibson? Mee
LB - 0
LM - 0
CM - Brownhill Stephens Westwood
RM - 0
ST - Barnes

7 players + Gibson, we desperately need to sort out the contracts ASAP which means we are likely gonna be extending contracts for players we’d have likely preferred to replace.

It’s gonna be a huge rebuild and who knows if Dyche will remain to rebuild?

This season is enormous for us, if only we’d have backed Dyche adequately, now we’re gonna need some extreme luck.

Plus on top of a recruitment drive over the summer of trying to bring in around 14 player's we will also be looking to bring in a new manager and his backroom staff (one of the biggest losses to the club would be Billy Mercer) that's one hell of a job for who ever owns the club

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:59 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:06 am
Heaton

Bardsley Dunne Mee Ward

JBG Stephens Westwood Lennon

Barnes Jay
Is Lennon going to make a come back :D

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by kentonclaret » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:12 am

"Bounce Back"?

Now, who has been using that phrase recently?

Ah, Trump and Boris.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Winstonswhite » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:20 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:54 am
Plus on top of a recruitment drive over the summer of trying to bring in around 14 player's we will also be looking to bring in a new manager and his backroom staff (one of the biggest losses to the club would be Billy Mercer) that's one hell of a job for who ever owns the club
I’m not saying Dyche wouldn’t walk out with his entire back room staff as we all know that can happen, but I’m genuinely interested to know where you think he would walk out to? He’s currently paid 3.5 million I believe. Would he walk out for a 75% pay cut or do you think his wage will seriously reduce enough due to relegation for him to think it’s not worth it anymore?

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:38 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:54 am
Plus on top of a recruitment drive over the summer of trying to bring in around 14 player's we will also be looking to bring in a new manager and his backroom staff (one of the biggest losses to the club would be Billy Mercer) that's one hell of a job for who ever owns the club
Billy Mercer has been at the club since Brian Laws' days. No reason he wouldn't stay on as head goalkeeping coach, if offered of course

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by jojomk1 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:38 am

Wellsy1882 wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:45 am
I cant see us being relegated in the next 5 years

Too many worse teams
I'll have a pint of whatever you're on

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Longsidelenny1882 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:45 am

Get ready when the Americans take over no pies or twix to be seen on the turf hotdogs only and everybody shouting go burnley go woe utc

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Bosscat » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:59 am

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:59 am
Is Lennon going to make a come back :D
I "Imagine" not 😁
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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:14 am

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:59 am
Is Lennon going to make a come back :D
Not so much a comeback as a buy back, probably pick him up for 500k

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by ClaretMov » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:03 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:20 am
I’m not saying Dyche wouldn’t walk out with his entire back room staff as we all know that can happen, but I’m genuinely interested to know where you think he would walk out to? He’s currently paid 3.5 million I believe. Would he walk out for a 75% pay cut or do you think his wage will seriously reduce enough due to relegation for him to think it’s not worth it anymore?


Any premier league club that wants him, and give him the funds to work with instead of having his hands tied behind his back.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by LoveCurryPies » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:19 pm

Unbelievable! :shock:

OP and other doom mongers need to get a life. An entire season lies ahead, yet you create thread and thread, and post and post filled with the most negative rubbish. I'm wondering if all the negativity is a reflection of your own pathetic lives?
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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Wellsy1882 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:23 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:38 am
I'll have a pint of whatever you're on
People on here are mad
3 games in and worried

When its jan and wev no point then worry

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:40 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:57 pm
We may very well go down this season. But the doomsday predictions on here, considering we’ve got a squad about as strong as the one which started last season, have been nothing short of hysterical.
"About" isn't true it's substantially weaker even with everyone fit, & it's a far stronger league, I'm all for positivity but let's be honest about it.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Spijed » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:42 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:40 pm
"About" isn't true it's substantially weaker even with everyone fit, & it's a far stronger league, I'm all for positivity but let's be honest about it.
Why is it a far stronger league than last season?

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Dyched » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:45 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:40 pm
"About" isn't true it's substantially weaker even with everyone fit, & it's a far stronger league, I'm all for positivity but let's be honest about it.
Substantially weaker :lol:

We lost Hendrick not Pele

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:46 pm

Spijed wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:42 pm
Why is it a far stronger league than last season?
It's well recognised with the money spent bolstering, Fulham & WBA have looked shakey a penny for a pinch of s**t they'll improve.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by dsr » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:47 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:40 pm
"About" isn't true it's substantially weaker even with everyone fit, & it's a far stronger league, I'm all for positivity but let's be honest about it.
Gibson is no loss, Lennon isn't a great loss, Brownhill is a more than adequate replacement for Hendrick, and the drop in quality of the third goalkeeper is of little account. Who else have we lost?

The squad is a couple of men down. The first team is not.

Incidentally, they say every year that the league has got stronger. Surely if that was true it would mean that men like Mee who have been around for years would now be totally off the pace. "Teams have spent billions" is not the same as "Teams have got better".

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:50 pm

dsr wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:47 pm
Gibson is no loss, Lennon isn't a great loss, Brownhill is a more than adequate replacement for Hendrick, and the drop in quality of the third goalkeeper is of little account. Who else have we lost?

The squad is a couple of men down. The first team is not.

Incidentally, they say every year that the league has got stronger. Surely if that was true it would mean that men like Mee who have been around for years would now be totally off the pace. "Teams have spent billions" is not the same as "Teams have got better".
It'll be testament at the final reckoning who finishes where, I sincerely hope I'm wrong with my embryonic assessment, truth be told we are only 3 games in but boy we need to step on the gas.

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Re: Our Championship squad next year

Post by MACCA » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:56 pm

I think the league has got stronger.

Leeds look like theyll be easily safe, Villa who scraped staying up by the skin of their teeth look a far better side, West ham have started decent, and are 6 points ahead of us already.

Hopefully WBA and Fulham fill 2 of the 3 places and its acase if only being better than 1 other side.

It's ok saying we are as strong with everyone back, the truth is we cannot bank on having a fully fit 11 every week, an injury on 1 of the wings or CB, even for just half a dozen games could spell disaster.

We are looking rather weak at the back and not great going forward either and we have 2 nailed on first teamers out, just 2.

Think the next 3 games will give a better idea of the league, and the strength of our squad, I really do think we need 4 points for it to be classed as a just below average start.

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