West Brom versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:25 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:24 pm
Vydra must be so frustrated

Got his main man back now

NickBFC · Post by **NickBFC** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:25 pm

Dyched wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:23 pm
Mee wouldn’t have improved anything tonight.

I think he'll give the side a big lift. He's not going to come in and score a hattrick, but his leadership and fight will be a big plus. With a fit best XI we'll pick up wins.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:25 pm

What a load of dogsh*t. The only positive tonight was I had Right Back in our sweepstake for what position Dyche would play Pieters in so up £100

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:25 pm

scouseclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:24 pm
First half was dreadful but I thought the second was quite entertaining. Don’t quite get all the negativity, but hey, this is The Bee Hole End.

Got a point. Onwards and upwards.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:25 pm

No Naughty Madge but she is pleased that we are fathering points again.

Up the Clarets

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:25 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:23 pm
Fancy our chances of staying up far more than theirs

You're right

Unfortunately bookies have us to go down with WBA and Fulham below us

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:26 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:23 pm
We beat Man United 2-0 on their own ground.

We do actually tend to play better against better opposition. When we play teams we should be beating, we **** it up.

I wish I had your optimism Frank,

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:26 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:25 pm
What a load of dogsh*t. The only positive tonight was I had Right Back in our sweepstake for what position Dyche would play Pieters in so up £100

Tickled me that

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:26 pm

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:25 pm
You're right

Unfortunately bookies have us to go down with WBA and Fulham below us

They had us to go down when we finished 7th and 10th.

Let's chill out a bit here.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:28 pm

I thought we were much the better of two extremely average teams who on this showing will be bumping along the bottom for large parts of the season, yet on chances we SHOULD have edged it. However, against better sides than them, which tbh will be pretty much every other team in the league, I will be worried.

Sheedyclaret · Post by **Sheedyclaret** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:28 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:24 pm
Vydra must be so frustrated

Especially up against ivanovic

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:28 pm

SGr wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:23 pm
Not having a go at Dwight for overhit crosses simply because their centre halves were always going to win the battle in that situation. He played well, clearly the best player on the pitch.

Big centre backs
So we pump high crosses in
1 of them, Ivanovic, 36 years old
So we keep our only forward with pace on the bench

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:28 pm

Safron wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:26 pm
I wish I had your optimism Frank,

I'm far from optimistic. I sometimes think I should go back to my negative self, as we do better then.

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:28 pm

Wasn’t a bad result even though a win would have been good. No injuries and time on the field for Gudmundsson, Brady and Rodriguez .
Perfect cross for Wood and great save from Barnes .

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:29 pm

Jesus, we have regressed hugely this season. Not surprising given the squad situation, but we're an even harder watch than most other years.

Gp8419 · Post by **Gp8419** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:29 pm

Don’t get the negativity we should of buried 1 of them 3 golden chances.We looked solid and the football is exactly the same tonight as when we took 7th,just didn’t pinch one like we usually do.It wasn’t pretty granted I personally don’t fear the two big hitters next two games they both shipping goals for fun! WBA put 3 past Chelsea !

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:29 pm

BleedingClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:28 pm
Big centre backs
So we pump high crosses in
1 of them, Ivanovic, 36 years old
So we keep our only forward with pace on the bench

Dyche has never spotted things like that since he's been here, so not sure how you can be surprised.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:29 pm

Positives:

Clean sheet
Pope played very well
Long good
Tarks looked more like his normal self
Dwight very good without creating anything
Could’ve scored two
JBG back

Negatives:

Overall play
Constant hoofball
Set pieces very predictable
JBG anonymous (tbf - Dwight has been in recent games but looked great tonight)
Created few chances - counted two saves from their keeper

Overall, gutted.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:30 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:24 pm
Vydra must be so frustrated

As soon as everyone was fit Vydra was always going to be back to not getting a sniff, so predictable. The lad probably can't wait to leave now, and who can blame him.

NickBFC · Post by **NickBFC** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:30 pm

BleedingClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:28 pm
Big centre backs
So we pump high crosses in
1 of them, Ivanovic, 36 years old
So we keep our only forward with pace on the bench

WBA were sat pretty deep so not sure how much effect Vydra would have had on things. I'd have brought Jay on much earlier as his link up play helps us create more. The game was never really stretched to bring on a livewire IMO. Agree with pumping high balls though.

diamondpocket · Post by **diamondpocket** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:30 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:23 pm
We beat Man United 2-0 on their own ground.

We do actually tend to play better against better opposition. When we play teams we should be beating, we **** it up.

What an absolute crock of.........

Look at our record against the bottom half teams the last few seasons moron. It's why we've stayed up comfortably the last few years.

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:30 pm

It's a point!
A loss would have been terrible.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:31 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:28 pm
I'm far from optimistic. I sometimes think I should go back to my negative self, as we do better then.

Jesus, get back to it quickly.

Cheshireclaret · Post by **Cheshireclaret** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:32 pm

It’s a point and a clean sheet, there will be games we expect to win that we lose and vice-versa. This is a team that put 3 past Chelski, for example.

This is a more positive result than, say, Sheffield United’s 1-1 draw at home to Fulham.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:32 pm

diamondpocket wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:30 pm
What an absolute crock of.........

Look at our record against the bottom half teams the last few seasons moron. It's why we've stayed up comfortably the last few years.

Say that to me in person, you'll be sparked out.

Now try again.

diamondpocket · Post by **diamondpocket** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:32 pm

the worry is the creativity. We had enough chances to win tonight and was a classic Dyche performance but better teams will stop Dwight. Then what? Our only plan so far this season is Westy knocking high channel balls in behind. & set pieces!

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:32 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:29 pm
Dyche has never spotted things like that since he's been here, so not sure how you can be surprised.

I’m not
I said we’d play Barnes Wood for evermore

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:33 pm

Put your handbags down ladies

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:33 pm

diamondpocket wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:32 pm
the worry is the creativity. We had enough chances to win tonight and was a classic Dyche performance but better teams will stop Dwight. Then what? Our only plan so far this season is Westy knocking high channel balls in behind. & set pieces!

Stop talking rubbish, you moron.

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:33 pm

3 words.

Relegation.
Relegation.
Relegation.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:33 pm

Gp8419 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:29 pm
Don’t get the negativity we should of buried 1 of them 3 golden chances.We looked solid and the football is exactly the same tonight as when we took 7th,just didn’t pinch one like we usually do.It wasn’t pretty granted I personally don’t fear the two big hitters next two games they both shipping goals for fun! WBA put 3 past Chelsea !

Liked that post because the bit at the end cheered me up.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:38 pm

Terrible game, decent point, but it could and probably should have more.

Nice to keep a clean sheet, and we looked better tonight, Dwight especially was bright, but both teams lacked a cutting edge.

Very early days but the bottom 4 are all looking poor in the opening weeks of the campaign, and unless any show drastic improvement it's perming 3 from those 4, of course others could easily get drawn into the fray, but the league as a whole has vastly improved, and it'll be harder to survive then the last few seasons.

The plusses are we denied West Brom a home win, and on that showing they're going to struggle to gain many points, mind you the same could be said of us.

It certainly wasn't an advert for the PL, and I feel for those who forked out £15 to watch it.

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:38 pm

On a plus note tonight we broke this seasons record, of the first nil nil so well done SD

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:38 pm

On a plus note tonight we broke this seasons record, of the first nil nil so well done SD

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:39 pm

On a plus note tonight we broke this seasons record, of the first nil nil so well done SD

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:39 pm

diamondpocket wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:32 pm
the worry is the creativity. We had enough chances to win tonight and was a classic Dyche performance but better teams will stop Dwight. Then what? Our only plan so far this season is Westy knocking high channel balls in behind. & set pieces!

Exactly why I’m very worried. Absolutely no creativity, which should’ve been a priority for us this summer.

No issue with us relying on Winning FK’s anywhere in their half and nicking a goal. Genuinely appreciate it as much as free flowing football. When it works.

Tonight, no midfield creativity on the right or middle (Dwight was good). Poor set piece delivery - wtf was that at the end? And absolutely no variety - that WBA corner that tore us apart... we should try some of that if we’re going to rely on it to win games!

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:39 pm

On a plus note tonight we broke this seasons record, of the first nil nil so well done SD

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:40 pm

Safron wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:39 pm
On a plus note tonight we broke this seasons record, of the first nil nil so well done SD

Yea, you’ve said!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:40 pm

Dyched wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:33 pm
Put your handbags down ladies

Added him to the twunt list, so it's cool.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:41 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:38 pm
Terrible game, decent point, but it could and probably should have more.

Nice to keep a clean sheet, and we looked better tonight, Dwight especially was bright, but both teams lacked a cutting edge.

Very early days but the bottom 4 are all looking poor in the opening weeks of the campaign, and unless any show drastic improvement it's perming 3 from those 4, of course others could easily get drawn into the fray, but the league as a whole has vastly improved, and it'll be harder to survive then the last few seasons.

The plusses are we denied West Brom a home win, and on that showing they're going to struggle to gain many points, mind you the same could be said of us.

It certainly wasn't an advert for the PL, and I feel for those who forked out £15 to watch it.

Feel for me then.

Agree with the rest. Others have moved forward. We have stood still albeit still don’t have everyone back. Looking like a long season ahead.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:43 pm

Safron wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:39 pm
On a plus note tonight we broke this seasons record, of the first nil nil so well done SD

Talking of broken records and SD..

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:43 pm

Anyone back yet?

Bigvince · Post by **Bigvince** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:44 pm

Blyclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:33 pm
3 words.

Relegation.
Relegation.
Relegation.

3 words

Overreaction
Overreaction
Overreaction

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:44 pm

First point of the season and we are up and running

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:45 pm

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:43 pm
Anyone back yet?

Ian, thanks for starting the thread - I knew we'd start picking up points when you came back

Please keep it going - see you for the next game.

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:48 pm

Seriously though guys of which injured player returning is going to make us better going forward,I can't think of one??

grapidianclaret · Post by **grapidianclaret** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:50 pm

I thought we played well and ran the game for the most part. A typical Burnley performance from last season. We deserved three points, Wood and Barnes (2) should have scored.

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:51 pm

Not unhappy with that result...we missed a couple where we probably should have scored.Dwight was brilliant tonight and Pieters did well again playing in an unfamiliar role.

nyclaret · Post by **nyclaret** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:54 pm

Solid away performance in my opinion. We could've easily nicked it in the second half.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:55 pm

Safron wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:48 pm
Seriously though guys of which injured player returning is going to make us better going forward,I can't think of one??

This is true. Exactly why I could excuse sticking with Long and Dunne as defensive cover (albeit not ideal), but there is literally 0 creativity to add from the bench.

Mee and Cork are very much missed. Have understood their value much more since their injuries.