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Dele Alli

Post by MRG » Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:00 pm

File under ‘J-Lings’. Another gifted player who believed his own hype, Instagram likes became more important than football and he has wasted a career that he has worked towards throughout his childhood

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by tarkys_ears » Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:06 pm

So what?

Some people play sports to get rich, some people rap, some people **** others over.

I'd say he's got what he wanted.
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Re: Dele Alli

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:17 pm

Whats he wasted?

He's 24, 160 appearances for Spurs, 37 for the English national team.

He's just having a poor patch and needs to either move or hope Jose can find a way to get the best out of him.

I'm fairly sure he hasn't wasted anything tbh, but you carry on being dramatically over the top about it.

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by tiger76 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:25 pm

It's a bit early to say he's wasted his career he's still only 24, however I do feel he needs to leave Spurs to reinvigorate himself, he'll never fit into Jose's philosophy and a new challenge might do him good, he's still got the ability he just needs the right manager to nurture him.

Unfortunately he's out of our budget otherwise he'd be ideal for our midfield creator, I'd certainly rate him above Lingard that's for sure.

It was only 2 years ago he played in a WC semi-final, and little over a year ago he lined up in a CL final, so you'd be daft to write his career off after a poor run of form and injury.

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:36 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:17 pm
Whats he wasted?

He's 24, 160 appearances for Spurs, 37 for the English national team.

He's just having a poor patch and needs to either move or hope Jose can find a way to get the best out of him.

I'm fairly sure he hasn't wasted anything tbh, but you carry on being dramatically over the top about it.
Writing someone off at 24 :lol:

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:37 pm

For all his haters on here Jose is usually right. He took Dombele off against us at HT last season, hammered him in the press but within the lockdown he got fined for giving him personal training in a park. That was a guy he knew had it, now he is starting every major game for Spurs. Alli will never get back to what he was. Like too many English players too much , too young.

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:43 pm

Dele the diver has gone right off
File under Lingard another wasted talent who promised much

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:12 pm

I too think his career is in the balance.
He definitely needs to leave Spurs if he wants to come good again. Just seems to have lost any hunger for the game, taking things easy when he needs to show a bit of fight.

The balls in his court........

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by BenWickes » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:15 pm

He's a talented lad. Always thought he could have done with another year at the lower level at MK Dons. I.E. A loan back. Takes the edge off an ego, which he clearly has. He's lost his way but no doubt he has talent.

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by ashtonlongsider » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:23 pm

Have always rated Ali. The way he ghosts into the penalty area and finds space is an art. However, I think he'll end up moving on to resurrect his career, because to put it mildly he doesn't seem the 'flavour of the month' with Mourinho.

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:30 pm

He's another thats simply a bad egg.

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by Zlatan » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:45 pm

I’d have him at Burnley
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Re: Dele Alli

Post by LeadBelly » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:47 pm

I'm in agreement with a few here- that he probably needs a change of club.

He looked a very good player when he established himself at Spurs at a young age. More than a bit cocky but young and talented so he could largely get away with that.
After a couple of very good seasons he started to wane and lose confidence. Its doubtful that Jose is the type of manager to coax him back into form so he probably needs to go somewhere else, he's only 24 and has time to get back to top form for his peak years.
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Re: Dele Alli

Post by welsbyswife » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:52 pm

Prick list candidate and I find it enjoyable to see him struggling. So full of himself when things were going well.
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Re: Dele Alli

Post by tiger76 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:54 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:45 pm
I’d have him at Burnley
So would I in a heartbeat, but does he like omelettes?, and more importantly would he take a large wage cut?, maybe not him specifically but someone in his mould is precisely what we need to provide service to our strikers.

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by jojomk1 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:08 pm

Could see him fitting in at Arsenal (cannot understand how Lacazette starts with Aubameyang wide left

Jose clearly doesn't fancy him (would rather play the likes of Winks)

But Poch seemed to

Not to everyone's taste but a very good player on his day

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by jrgbfc » Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:39 pm

Looked like he was going to be a great player. Still time to turn it around but needs a fresh start somewhere I think.

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by Wellsy1882 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:32 pm

J Lingz is an absolute weapon

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:25 pm

Top player. And mourinho definitely rates him. But you can see from the spurs Netflix series he’s a very lazy trainer and mourinho rightly won’t accept that.

Mourinho did try to sign him before that so it’s not that he doesn’t fancy him as a player.

Needs to leave / wake up. Some players would respond to what mourinho doing in a positive way. See ndombele post above. I don’t think Alli will.

Funnily enough the second to last game I went to ore lockdown was spurs Leipzig and alli threw a proper wobbler that game.

Maybe he just needs a different style of play and manager. He’s far better than lingaard that’s for sure.
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Re: Dele Alli

Post by Wellsy1882 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:31 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:25 pm
Top player. And mourinho definitely rates him. But you can see from the spurs Netflix series he’s a very lazy trainer and mourinho rightly won’t accept that.

Mourinho did try to sign him before that so it’s not that he doesn’t fancy him as a player.

Needs to leave / wake up. Some players would respond to what mourinho doing in a positive way. See ndombele post above. I don’t think Alli will.

Funnily enough the second to last game I went to ore lockdown was spurs Leipzig and alli threw a proper wobbler that game.

Maybe he just needs a different style of play and manager. He’s far better than lingaard that’s for sure.
Far better than lingard. Agree
World beater he thinks he is. Strongly disagree

Hes nowhere near the world class players in the game today

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by Dyched » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:41 pm

Probably needs a change as did a lot of the Spurs team from 3/4 years ago. They reached there peak and will struggle to ever get that close again any time soon. It’s a shame because they were fantastic. They never did replace Dembele when he left.

He’s 24. Achieved far more than 90% of english footballers ever achieve in 15 year careers. Times have changed. Music for some is a way to get rich and famous, same with football.

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by Foulthrow » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:05 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:25 pm
It's a bit early to say he's wasted his career he's still only 24, however I do feel he needs to leave Spurs to reinvigorate himself, he'll never fit into Jose's philosophy and a new challenge might do him good, he's still got the ability he just needs the right manager to nurture him.

Unfortunately he's out of our budget otherwise he'd be ideal for our midfield creator, I'd certainly rate him above Lingard that's for sure.

It was only 2 years ago he played in a WC semi-final, and little over a year ago he lined up in a CL final, so you'd be daft to write his career off after a poor run of form and injury.
I'm still annoyed that Alli played in the WC semi final when he clearly wasn't fit - this was another demonstration of Southgate's weakness or inability to stand up to a player and of how he picks the players over the team.

Still, not as bad as Kane who was more determined to win the Golden Boot thant reach the final when he refused to square a ball to Sterling for a 2-0 lead and took a shot on instead.

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Re: Dele Alli

Post by IanMcL » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:11 pm

It is a demonstration that very young players, if it goes to their head, stop developing. Early exuberance and novelty fades. If they do not continue the groundwork, they fall behind.

G. Southgate take note. You are wasting players by putting them in too soon.

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