Burnley's FA Youth Cup winners

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Burnley's FA Youth Cup winners

Post by BigF » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:02 am

A college friend of mine has just shown me the photo of the youth team. I was there at the final first and second legs but and remember all the players' names except Pat Dooney. Am I getting very forgetful?

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Re: Burnley's FA Youth Cup winners

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:05 am

BigF wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:02 am
A college friend of mine has just shown me the photo of the youth team. I was there at the final first and second legs but and remember all the players' names except Pat Dooney. Am I getting very forgetful?
He played just the one game in the cup run I think, the quarter final at Sheffield United and the team photo that is often used was taken at that game.

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Re: Burnley's FA Youth Cup winners

Post by BigF » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:09 am

Thanks Tony. I just didn't remember the name at all but the rest were easily remembered.(I did wonder where the photo was taken as the team were wearing white - it is a black and white photo - and so unlikely to have been at Turf Moor).

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Re: Burnley's FA Youth Cup winners

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:54 am

Image

That's him on the very left of the back row I think.

The pic is at Bramall Lane in front of what was then the main stand which is opposite today's main stand.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:00 pm

Several of the lads look in their mid 30s😉
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Post by Royboyclaret » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:10 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:54 am
Image

That's him on the very left of the back row I think.

The pic is at Bramall Lane in front of what was then the main stand which is opposite today's main stand.
Back Row - Pat Dooney, Steve Kindon, Wilf Wrigley, Gerry McEvoy, Eddie Cliff, George Coppock.

Front Row - Alan West, Eric Probert, Mick Docherty, David Hartley, Peter Jones & Dave Thomas.
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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:13 pm

Mick Doc turned 70 last week
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Post by ashtonlongsider » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:58 pm

Good to see that photo again. Pat Dooney was a friend of mine and sadly died in August 2018.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:02 pm

Willie Brown is the one missing on that photo so I reckon David Hartley will have played centre forward with Pat Dooney coming in at outside right.

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Re: Burnley's FA Youth Cup winners

Post by Quicknick » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:04 pm

Didn't Hartley score both goals in the home leg in the final against Coventry?

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:22 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:04 pm
Didn't Hartley score both goals in the home leg in the final against Coventry?
He did - one of only two of the regulars in the side, the other being the goalkeeper, who never appeared in the first team.

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Re: Burnley's FA Youth Cup winners

Post by Quicknick » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:24 pm

There were several in that team who would be first team regulars, the most notable being Kindon, Thomas and Docherty. I'd forgotten Docherty captained the youth team. Eric Probert was the one I thought was destined for greatness, other than Thomas, but he faded.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:31 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:24 pm
There were several in that team who would be first team regulars, the most notable being Kindon, Thomas and Docherty. I'd forgotten Docherty captained the youth team. Eric Probert was the one I thought was destined for greatness, other than Thomas, but he faded.
Eric didn't exactly fade - he found he liked a drink

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Post by Marney&Mee » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:50 pm

great pic and what a team !

David Hartley did well to say he had no neck
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Post by Vino blanco » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:49 pm

I went to that away match at Sheffield Utd to watch the youth team, as well as both legs of the final. They were a cracking young team with the craft and skill of Thomas and West and the strength and power of Kndon, Brown etc.
You are right about Eric Probert, I had quite a few nights out with Eric back then (Cats Whiskers etc) and he certainly knew how to drink a fair few pints, very rapidly as well. He was a good lad though and never came the "I'm a footballer, look at me", at least when I was with him.
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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:51 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:49 pm
I went to that away match at Sheffield Utd to watch the youth team, as well as both legs of the final. They were a cracking young team with the craft and skill of Thomas and West and the strength and power of Kndon, Brown etc.
You are right about Eric Probert, I had quite a few nights out with Eric back then (Cats Whiskers etc) and he certainly knew how to drink a fair few pints, very rapidly as well. He was a good lad though and never came the "I'm a footballer, look at me", at least when I was with him.
The qf v Sheffield United was played on FA Cup 6th round day - and we had to drive through the Hillsborough crowds on the way, they were playing Chelsea.

Sadly, that drink cost Eric his life. He died aged just 52.

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Post by The Enclosure » Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:13 pm

David Hartley has a look of Brian Laws on that photo..
Was a good youth team that.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:14 pm

The Enclosure wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:13 pm
David Hartley has a look of Brian Laws on that photo..
Was a good youth team that.
And he also went on to probably get named more often in the Burnley Express than any of the other players. He was in virtually every week as a prosecutor for the CPS.

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:37 pm

Fantastic performance on the night from the lads, and a fantastic atmosphere to go with it, one of my favourite nights being a claret, anybody remember the attendance that night ?

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Post by Royboyclaret » Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:42 pm

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:37 pm
Fantastic performance on the night from the lads, and a fantastic atmosphere to go with it, one of my favourite nights being a claret, anybody remember the attendance that night ?
13,840.

Some 800 more than turned up for the league game against Leeds the following day.

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:09 pm

First game at Turf Moor was postponed because of a waterlogged pitch if I recall correctly.

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Post by exilecanada » Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:10 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:42 pm
13,840.

Some 800 more than turned up for the league game against Leeds the following day.


I was one of them. Most definitely a good night 'ont turf' :D

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:11 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:09 pm
First game at Turf Moor was postponed because of a waterlogged pitch if I recall correctly.
It was. Played on a Friday night on a mud heap.

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Post by BigF » Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:10 pm

It really was very muddy and how the first team played on it the next day is a wonder.

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:48 am

BigF wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:10 pm
It really was very muddy and how the first team played on it the next day is a wonder.
There wasn't a single blade of grass on the pitch on the Friday let alone the following day.

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Re: Burnley's FA Youth Cup winners

Post by Quicknick » Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:01 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:42 pm
13,840.

Some 800 more than turned up for the league game against Leeds the following day.
Burnley 3 Leeds 0?

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Post by Royboyclaret » Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:11 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:01 pm
Burnley 3 Leeds 0?
Correct, O'Neil, Lochhead & Dobson in front of 13,142 fans, less than the previous evening.
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Re: Burnley's FA Youth Cup winners

Post by Quicknick » Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:51 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:11 pm
Correct, O'Neil, Lochhead & Dobson in front of 13,142 fans, less than the previous evening.
Thanks. I was on a, er, 30 mile charity walk.

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:05 pm

Lochhead's goal in the Leeds game was his 100th league goal for Burnley. His 101st and last came early in the following season at West Brom.

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Post by Hipper » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:03 pm

I know Wilf Wrigley played a few first team games but left to go to university. I never saw him - could he have made it?

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport ... ing-light/

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:07 pm

Hipper wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:03 pm
I know Wilf Wrigley played a few first team games but left to go to university. I never saw him - could he have made it?

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport ... ing-light/
I thought Wilf looked decent. Whether he'd have made a top flight player or not we'll never know. He just suddenly upped and left to go to uni.
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Post by Guitargeorge » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:19 pm

I went to the reunion on the 59th anniversary and it was a great night. As we came out a lone figure was walking slowly away from the JH stand. It was Pat Dooley. A very quiet, private person who was well thought of by my friend Eddie Cliff. He was getting a taxi home and he lived a fair way off, can’t just remember where. As a previous poster said, he sadly died later that year.

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Post by Guitargeorge » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:20 pm

50th

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Re: Burnley's FA Youth Cup winners

Post by basil6345789 » Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:52 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:51 pm
Thanks. I was on a, er, 30 mile charity walk.
I was on one about then - around Tod and Hebden, overnight. Arranged by the youth clubs.

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