Dyche......is it time to go

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by KRBFC » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:21 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:26 pm
Dyches constant whinging the end of last season,pre season , and beginning of this season has affected the whole club
And he has every right to whinge when he’s worked minor miracles to earn the club hundreds of millions and the only notable player. brought in was Stephens for about the same fee we got in from the Gibson loan deal. He’s been badly let down by Garlick, those player contracts should’ve been sorted (Lennon, Bardsley and Hendrick) and they weren’t at all (in the case of Hendrick and Lennon).

Lennon wasn’t great for us at all but he was experienced, useful, settled and knew the system, to let him go and not replace him is absolutely criminal and stupid.
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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Longsidelenny1882 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:23 pm

Well said John Mac utc

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by joey13 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:31 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:21 pm
And he has every right to whinge when he’s worked minor miracles to earn the club hundreds of millions and the only notable player. brought in was Stephens for about the same fee we got in from the Gibson loan deal. He’s been badly let down by Garlick, those player contracts should’ve been sorted (Lennon, Bardsley and Hendrick) and they weren’t at all (in the case of Hendrick and Lennon).

Lennon wasn’t great for us at all but he was experienced, useful, settled and knew the system, to let him go and not replace him is absolutely criminal and stupid.
A good manager whinges upwards,not downwards and certainly not in public .
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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Untinted Glasses » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:33 pm

Dyche should be here until he wants to leave. Miracle worker. Yes the football is w*** but that style with the current squad is our biggest chance of gaining points, it's as simple as that.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:14 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:54 pm
Fair enough at least you've named some names.

Thomas Frank: he's undoubtedly done a good job at Brentford, however they should have got promoted last season, and they blew it in both the regular season, and the PO final, the jury is still out on him yet, until he actually gets Brentford promoted, they'll be a nagging doubt amongst PL clubs whether to take the plunge, that said we could do a lot worse than him should we need to replace SD.

Steve Cooper would definitely interest me, although whether he could implement his philosophy on our current squad I have grave doubts, so if we opted for him we'd probably require a high turnover in our playing squad, now that might not be a bad thing in itself, however it'd depend how quickly both the manager and players settled into their new surroundings, and built up an understanding of what each wants.

This critique of his coaching style from wiki piqued my curiosity.

Cooper likes his teams to play with "good organisation and structure". He prefers his teams to control the game by being brave on the ball and confident when passing. Cooper coaches his teams to have tactical discipline; defensively, he prefers his players to regain possession through composure and aggression.

Cooper cites former Barcelona B coach José Segura as his main influence; the pair worked together at Liverpool's academy. Tactically, Cooper likes to deploy a 4–2–3–1 with two holding midfielders and attacking wing-backs. He has also used a 5–3–2 or 3–5–2 formation to ensure greater defensive stability and more flexibility in attack.

My worry is that we don't have the players that possess the technical ability, or the athleticism to carry out such a game plan, there is echoes of Chris Wilder's blueprint when Sheff Utd came up last season their wing-backs bombed forward, but they had the legs to make this strategy successful, if we're going down that route fine, but we'd need a more younger mobile squad to carry it out effectively.
But with the age of our squad and lots of contracts coming to an end now would be as good a time as any for a bit of a rebuild. Is Dyche the man for that? I'm not sure, he's very cautious and risk averse.
BTW I'm not suggesting we sack him, but we need to be preparing for the fact that he could well be leaving soon.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by tiger76 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:25 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:14 pm
But with the age of our squad and lots of contracts coming to an end now would be as good a time as any for a bit of a rebuild. Is Dyche the man for that? I'm not sure, he's very cautious and risk averse.
BTW I'm not suggesting we sack him, but we need to be preparing for the fact that he could well be leaving soon.
Yes you raise some valid points, obviously a lot will hinge on what happens with the takeover, who knows what plans the new owners whoever that happens to be will have, and it's possible that they'll want a change of manager, and yes we should have irons in the fire for when Sean does finally leave, we were caught with our trousers down when Coyle left, and we all know how that turned out, we can't afford for that to happen again.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Shaggy » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:46 pm

Dyche will be fighting tooth and nail for us to avoid relegation, he is ambitious and a relegation on his CV won’t help future prospects no matter the context of how it came about.

All that being said i can see him looking for other opportunities especially if our ownership situation is unresolved and he is starved of cash for reinforcements

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:50 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:31 pm
A good manager whinges upwards,not downwards and certainly not in public .
Do you not think he hasn't done that first, remember this as been dragging on for months it's well over a year now thing's haven't been right, when people are frustrated & go public it usually signifys a form of desperation & despair & it's a last resort after all other avenues have been explored.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Sproggy » Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:21 pm

Do we need a manager? The chairman has demonstrated that we can operate without recruitment, without a strategy on contracts or player retention and without a competitive first team squad. Surely the next step is to operate without a manager? Eric Pieters can fill in.
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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by joey13 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:39 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:50 pm
Do you not think he hasn't done that first, remember this as been dragging on for months it's well over a year now thing's haven't been right, when people are frustrated & go public it usually signifys a form of desperation & despair & it's a last resort after all other avenues have been explored.
Irrelevant,you don’t do it in public ,you wouldn’t expect him to call players out who are not performing,Dyche has been poor in this instance

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:48 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:39 pm
Irrelevant,you don’t do it in public ,you wouldn’t expect him to call players out who are not performing,Dyche has been poor in this instance
I disagree, I think in the context dyche was well within his rights to have a moan & if necessary go public, if people are outspoken about issues there's more chance of issues being resolved, an alternative view is for people to keep secrets & issues hidden with never any chance of solutions.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by joey13 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:53 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:48 pm
I disagree, I think in the context dyche was well within his rights to have a moan & if necessary go public, if people are outspoken about issues there's more chance of issues being resolved, an alternative view is for people to keep secrets & issues hidden with never any chance of solutions.
What at every opportunity :o, hardly surprising it’s filtered down to the players
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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:59 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:53 pm
What at every opportunity :o, hardly surprising it’s filtered down to the players
That’s asserting that’s the reason for the results, I think it’s a thin squad to start with & injuries have hampered the form. I don’t think MG or SD arguing amongst themselves makes any odds,(if they are) professional footballers lose relatives etc & still perform in a professional capacity.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Winstonswhite » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:30 pm

Sproggy wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:21 pm
Do we need a manager? The chairman has demonstrated that we can operate without recruitment, without a strategy on contracts or player retention and without a competitive first team squad. Surely the next step is to operate without a manager? Eric Pieters can fill in.
You mention recruitment but I’m not sure Dyche has covered himself in glory on that front.

He’s known for 8 years about our situation and our “market”. He’s stated previously that he’s set up Euro scouts who have so far produced Hennings and Ulvestaad- and then what?

Im Dyches biggest supporter on the training ground and pitch but even though money has been there, the players he buys have never broken the dyche mould.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:00 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:55 pm
Pope was injured, Heaton still recovering.

If we hadn't signed a more experienced keeper this place would've been amusing.
Plenty of other cheaper short term options. Although had we got someone on loan he probably would have still benched them!

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:03 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:00 pm
Plenty of other cheaper short term options. Although had we got someone on loan he probably would have still benched them!
With the necessary experience to step in and he first choice fairly quickly?

Dyche made a decision, it didn't quite go as planned, part of that reason was I suspect the lack of faith in him by the defenders.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:05 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:33 pm
Ability wise Defour was ahead of Barton.

Barton was a better combative midfielder and stayed fit etc

Hart 3.5 million plus wages is Cheap
Ability wise better maybe. No good when you can't play though. His injuries were well known way before we signed him so its no excuse!

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:07 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:05 pm
Ability wise better maybe. No good when you can't play though. His injuries were well known way before we signed him so its no excuse!
He changed that season for us, the dynamics of the team and style of play...

Do you think we would've reached 7th and Europa League without him?

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:18 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:07 pm
He changed that season for us, the dynamics of the team and style of play...

Do you think we would've reached 7th and Europa League without him?
Yes

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:20 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:18 pm
Yes
Based on what exactly?

We finished 16th the season before and 15th the season after.

The highest we've finished under Dyche was that season, we haven't come close since to playing like we did with Defour either.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:25 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:20 pm
Based on what exactly?

We finished 16th the season before and 15th the season after.

The highest we've finished under Dyche was that season, we haven't come close since to playing like we did with Defour either.
And defour played in all 3 of those seasons. So whats your point??

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:27 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:25 pm
And defour played in all 3 of those seasons. So whats your point??
Barely played in the last one.

At the end of the first one he wanted to leave, couldn't play in a team that played how we did with someone like Boyd, so Dyche shipped out Boyd and changed the teams style.

That's my point, but I get it, you don't want any credit going to Defour that's fine, we can leave this there.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:29 pm

Sproggy wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:21 pm
Do we need a manager? The chairman has demonstrated that we can operate without recruitment, without a strategy on contracts or player retention and without a competitive first team squad. Surely the next step is to operate without a manager? Eric Pieters can fill in.
:lol:

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Post by agreenwood » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:35 pm

If Dyche left now, I dread to think who this board would appoint.

Bottom 3 and zero transfer funds wouldn’t make it an attractive proposition.
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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:38 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:35 pm
If Dyche left now, I dread to think who this board would appoint.

Bottom 3 and zero transfer funds wouldn’t make it an attractive proposition.
It’d be worse than Laws, I’m convinced of it. Hell, they might just re-employ him.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:42 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:35 pm
If Dyche left now, I dread to think who this board would appoint.

Bottom 3 and zero transfer funds wouldn’t make it an attractive proposition.
Howe.

Unemployed, used to working with a limited budget, has an eye for a player and plays exciting football

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by joey13 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:43 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:59 pm
That’s asserting that’s the reason for the results, I think it’s a thin squad to start with & injuries have hampered the form. I don’t think MG or SD arguing amongst themselves makes any odds,(if they are) professional footballers lose relatives etc & still perform in a professional capacity.
Ok then the instability at the club has had no affect on the players :roll:

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:59 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:43 pm
Ok then the instability at the club has had no affect on the players :roll:
It’s possibly a factor, woeful recruitment, players missing & injured & everybody older than last season (albeit not much) hasn’t helped, I think it’s a combination rather than 1 thing, 2 credible away draws against teams likely to be in the mix, you could look at Southampton at home as a bad result but even then they seem to be having a good season. It’s exactly as expected I think, previous seasons we have overachieved hence things looking worse than there really are because things have always looked better than there really are.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:23 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:42 pm
Howe.

Unemployed, used to working with a limited budget, has an eye for a player and plays exciting football
You’ve missed the smiley off the end, Sidney.

About the only thing true about Howe there is that he is unemployed.
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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:24 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:23 pm
You’ve missed the smiley off the end, Sidney.

About the only thing true about Howe there is that he is unemployed.
I thought it was worth a go :D

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:31 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:46 pm
Dyche will be fighting tooth and nail for us to avoid relegation, he is ambitious and a relegation on his CV won’t help future prospects no matter the context of how it came about.

All that being said i can see him looking for other opportunities especially if our ownership situation is unresolved and he is starved of cash for reinforcements
Shaggy if you can name me one other club in the premier league that would take Dyche?

Only one I think that would be interested would be Palace but to be honest they have played a certain way for the past 5 seasons and maybe see our style as a step back.

Let’s be honest if there were any other teams seriously interested in Dyche he would have left a few seasons ago when his stock was high. As someone else highlighted Eddie Howe is still probably higher up the hiring list than Dyche in the prem
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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:37 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:31 pm
Shaggy if you can name me one other club in the premier league that would take Dyche?

Only one I think that would be interested would be Palace but to be honest they have played a certain way for the past 5 seasons and maybe see our style as a step back.

Let’s be honest if there were any other teams seriously interested in Dyche he would have left a few seasons ago when his stock was high. As someone else highlighted Eddie Howe is still probably higher up the hiring list than Dyche in the prem
Why are so many on here so dismissive now of what Dyche has done here at Burnley to the point they assume no one else will want him?

Out of interest do you know what the buyout clause would be for Dyche?
Remember we got £4-5 million for Howe.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Zlatan » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:42 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:13 am
Any manager championship or below would be interested in stepping up to the Premier League.

I suspect a few managers from abroad would also consider it.

Now its your turn.
I don't need to Sid, I wasn't the one making claims that any manager would want to manage Burnley. My position was and still is that I believe that no one (not even Klopp or Pep) would be able to get more out of this squad that Dyche could, so if you do want an answer to my position on it - there isn't one where I can answer with a list of managers who wouldn't be interested.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:15 am

What a brilliant read this is.

Dyche is a bad manager and past his sell by date (whatever nonsense that means)
Defour was a bad signing
We would have finished 7th without Defour
Dyche saying in interviews we need to strengthen the squad is the cause of the results

Luckily the whiney ones on here make up a very small percentage of our fanbase
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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by joey13 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:29 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:59 pm
It’s possibly a factor, woeful recruitment, players missing & injured & everybody older than last season (albeit not much) hasn’t helped, I think it’s a combination rather than 1 thing, 2 credible away draws against teams likely to be in the mix, you could look at Southampton at home as a bad result but even then they seem to be having a good season. It’s exactly as expected I think, previous seasons we have overachieved hence things looking worse than there really are because things have always looked better than there really are.
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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Terry Cochrane » Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:41 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:15 am
What a brilliant read this is.

Dyche is a bad manager and past his sell by date (whatever nonsense that means)
Defour was a bad signing
We would have finished 7th without Defour
Dyche saying in interviews we need to strengthen the squad is the cause of the results

Luckily the whiney ones on here make up a very small percentage of our fanbase
Its a football message board and people will vent frustrations in different ways. I choose to vent it by throwing a sponge around the living room. It works. Now I've done by sponge chucking I can come on here with a clear thinking head and say the team is starting to look solid and we will start to nick wins despite lack of squad investment.
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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:43 am

Terry Cochrane wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:41 am
Its a football message board and people will vent frustrations in different ways. I choose to vent it by throwing a sponge around the living room. It works. Now I've done by sponge chucking I can come on here with a clear thinking head and say the team is starting to look solid and we will start to nick wins despite lack of squad investment.

Have you any spare sponges for some on here, about a dozen should do it

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:43 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:15 am
What a brilliant read this is.

Dyche is a bad manager and past his sell by date (whatever nonsense that means)
Defour was a bad signing
We would have finished 7th without Defour
Dyche saying in interviews we need to strengthen the squad is the cause of the results

Luckily the whiney ones on here make up a very small percentage of our fanbase
So you think defour was a good signing??

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:12 am

Terry Cochrane wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:41 am
Its a football message board and people will vent frustrations in different ways. I choose to vent it by throwing a sponge around the living room. It works. Now I've done by sponge chucking I can come on here with a clear thinking head and say the team is starting to look solid and we will start to nick wins despite lack of squad investment.
Well thanks for that tip.

I've just tried the sponge throwing and the wife's gone apeshit because the living room's now ****** wet through.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:01 pm

Terry Cochrane wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:41 am
I choose to vent it by throwing a sponge around the living room. It works
Do you have any spare?

I've been using a bendable Popeye the sailor-man but his wires are starting to come through his spongy arms. This is now damaging the decor in the living room :shock:

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Quicknick » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:08 pm

No.

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Post by ralphc » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:51 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:43 am
So you think defour was a good signing??
Defour was the most talented player I have probably seen in Claret & Blue in the 40 years I have been watching Burnley. Yes he had injury issues but we should be grateful to have seen such a quality player at our club.
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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by tiger76 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:17 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:15 am
What a brilliant read this is.

Dyche is a bad manager and past his sell by date (whatever nonsense that means)
Defour was a bad signing
We would have finished 7th without Defour
Dyche saying in interviews we need to strengthen the squad is the cause of the results

Luckily the whiney ones on here make up a very small percentage of our fanbase
Dyche has his limitations as all managers do, but he's managed us in the PL for 6 seasons now, and the 2 full seasons he managed us in the Championship, we finished 2nd in the former, behind a Leicester team that a couple of seasons later went on to lift the PL title, and in the latter we went on 23 game unbeaten run, and lifted the title, in both those seasons we only lost 5 games, which at any level is an extraordinary amount of consistency over a 46 game season.

Defour was probably the most technically able player most of us we'll have seen in our time watching the Clarets, Ings would be a close 2nd, sadly for both they've been plagued by injuries throughout their careers, otherwise they would have more than likely have been playing for a truly big club,

How on earth the op can say we would have finished 7th without Defour, and still keep a straight face amazes me, he was the fulcrum of the team that season, I suppose it was purely a coincidence that when he wasn't available due to injury we endured our 12 game spell without a win, and didn't look anywhere near the same team as we had post-Xmas.

Of course we need to strengthen the squad, but alas we've been one of the hardest hit by covid due to our reliance on the TV monies, hence why our board have been reluctant to splash the cash, frustrating as this is for all of us that's just the reality we have to accept, now whether any proposed takeover loosens the purse strings, I wouldn't guarantee that by any means.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:18 pm

ralphc wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:51 pm
Defour was the most talented player I have probably seen in Claret & Blue in the 40 years I have been watching Burnley. Yes he had injury issues but we should be grateful to have seen such a quality player at our club.
Not if you look at this way - that money could have been spent towards a few up & coming youngsters with years ahead of them in service & resale value, yes defour had bags of talent I don't think anybody is disputing that but did he represent value whilst he was here, who knows in hindsight had we gone the other way what would have happened, memories should be long lasting not fleeting.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:28 pm

Have you been watching football long ?
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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:38 pm

Yes kidder.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by ralphc » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:42 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:18 pm
Not if you look at this way - that money could have been spent towards a few up & coming youngsters with years ahead of them in service & resale value, yes defour had bags of talent I don't think anybody is disputing that but did he represent value whilst he was here, who knows in hindsight had we gone the other way what would have happened, memories should be long lasting not fleeting.
I know which I prefer, watching a fantastic footballer who contributed to getting us into Europe and 3 unforgettable overseas trips. That's what memories are for me.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:45 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:43 am
So you think defour was a good signing??
Yes

I also use to think saxo was the daftest to post on here from Blackburn... shows I am not always right

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:01 pm

ralphc wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:42 pm
I know which I prefer, watching a fantastic footballer who contributed to getting us into Europe and 3 unforgettable overseas trips. That's what memories are for me.
Fair enough everyone's different, I'd rather take pot luck for next Ian wright, teddy sheringham, harry kane ect, than a bloke who's injured more often than not.

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Re: Dyche......is it time to go

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:13 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:38 pm
Yes kidder.

If that's true, you seem incredibly naive.







kidder.

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