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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:56 pm

Local cricketer wrote:
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Was this local pub in Cairo?
Slightly more closer to home to that...

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by strayclaret » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:57 pm

When I worked at Bradford Royal Infirmary( BRI) one of my colleagues wife worked at St Luke’s Hospital the other side of of the valley. On 5 consecutive nights he got pulled up asking where he was going, he was going to pick her up On each occasion he said you stopped me up last night, no links to what had happened previously.
On a lighter note we used to go for a lunch time shandy, at least 4 pints, Hare and Hounds at Heston 1 mile from where he lived I was in the bogs and suddenly found myself being interviewed by a Police Sergeant asking where I’d been the previous night, unfortunately a murder had taken place. I answered all his questions, however me and my driver had to walk back to work, I am sure you will know why and he had to leave his car as the Coppers were parked next to his car
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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by groove » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:04 pm

I know Peter Sutcliffe was a bit dodgy but there's no need for some of the comments on this thread. He was a human being.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Lowbankclaret » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:07 pm

bodge wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:50 pm
The thing I can't get my head round with the whole Ripper business, was how no one recognised Wearside Jack's voice aka John Humble who died in July 2019.

It was on the tv and radio loads of times, didn't a voice analyst identify it came from a particular area of Sunderland ?

Sutcliffe was responsible for more attacks than those attributed to him or at least there is a lot of pointers to him being the perpetrator.
Unfortunately, I think the Police just overloaded with information they couldn’t cross reference and then idiot starts sending stuff saying it was him doing it. I remember it being played, not sure if it was radio or tv but can certainly remember it.
All it did was take resources away from the real killer.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Lowbankclaret » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:10 pm

groove wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:04 pm
I know Peter Sutcliffe was a bit dodgy but there's no need for some of the comments on this thread. He was a human being.
A bit dodgy, there’s an understatement. He killed women with a hammer, stabbed them with screwdrivers and then removed parts of their bodies mutilating them severely.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:25 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:10 pm
A bit dodgy, there’s an understatement. He killed women with a hammer, stabbed them with screwdrivers and then removed parts of their bodies mutilating them severely.
There's no denying it though, some people did like him & have a lot of time for him, plenty of people requested ,& did visit him whilst in prison.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:26 pm

Sutcliffe's final legal application was to the High Court on the basis that his continued imprisonment was a breach of his human rights :D

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Lowbankclaret » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:30 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:25 pm
There's no denying it though, some people did like him & have a lot of time for him, plenty of people requested ,& did visit him whilst in prison.
I have words to say to that, but I don’t want to be banned. So shall refrain.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Aclaret » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:38 pm

groove wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:04 pm
I know Peter Sutcliffe was a bit dodgy but there's no need for some of the comments on this thread. He was a human being.
:o :o :o A human being ? :evil:

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by FactualFrank » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:40 pm

Aclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:38 pm
:o :o :o A human being ? :evil:
Pretty sure he's looking for a bite.
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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Aclaret » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:47 pm

A desperate fisherman.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by bodge » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:50 pm

Surely John Humble had family and friends who heard the tape ?

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:02 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:07 pm
Unfortunately, I think the Police just overloaded with information they couldn’t cross reference and then idiot starts sending stuff saying it was him doing it. I remember it being played, not sure if it was radio or tv but can certainly remember it.
All it did was take resources away from the real killer.
'Overloaded' is an under-statement. Civil engineers were called into the investigation headquarters at it's peak to see if the floor could take the strain of 4 tons of paper.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Lowbankclaret » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:17 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:02 pm
'Overloaded' is an under-statement. Civil engineers were called into the investigation headquarters at it's peak to see if the floor could take the strain of 4 tons of paper.
Yes Iread about that.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:24 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:45 pm
30770158-8523425-image-a-27_1594766288811.jpgIn the absence of Mr Beamish
Peter Sutcliffe
1946 - 2020
I think you've stepped the line. Peter Sutcliffe was a vile human being, but Nick Knowles is just evil personified.
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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:27 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:25 pm
There's no denying it though, some people did like him & have a lot of time for him, plenty of people requested ,& did visit him whilst in prison.
Hmm, Jimmy Savile was one of them.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Foulthrow » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:34 pm

bodge wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:50 pm
Surely John Humble had family and friends who heard the tape ?
I thought they prosecuted him and he went to prison didn’t he for perverting the course of justice?

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by bodge » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:42 pm

Yes they did a couple of decades later.

How no one recognised his voice at the time is beyond me.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Lowbankclaret » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:45 pm

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by yTib » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:03 pm

using a subject like this for a fishing expedition is about as childish as i've seen on here.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Middle-agedClaret » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:12 pm

I may be wrong - and, frankly, I would be happy if I were - but do I remember that there was a horrible football chant at that time. It was sung to Police at games - “You’ll Never Catch The Ripper “.
As my memory is suspect, I won’t name the team whose fans were, I think, responsible.
Does anyone else remember this? Or have I slipped into senility?

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by dougcollins » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:34 pm

I worked for a transport haulier in Yorkshire and my average finish times were 2-4 am.
I was stopped so many times that when the patrol car stopped beside me, I just emptied my duffel bag onto the pavement.
I could easily have done an 'I'm Jack' tape, every time I was stopped they asked me if I had a screwdriver or hammer in the bag.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:36 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:27 pm
Hmm, Jimmy Savile was one of them.
When mass murderers die you always get ghouls & cranks upset & visiting the graveside.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by tim_noone » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:38 pm

Middle-agedClaret wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:12 pm
I may be wrong - and, frankly, I would be happy if I were - but do I remember that there was a horrible football chant at that time. It was sung to Police at games - “You’ll Never Catch The Ripper “.
As my memory is suspect, I won’t name the team whose fans were, I think, responsible.
Does anyone else remember this? Or have I slipped into senility?
Just to balance things up Burnley fans used to chant Harry Robert's is our freind.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by DCWat » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:56 pm

I’d guess at Leeds fans.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by darringtonclaret » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:23 pm

I used to be a police officer in bingley! just after he was arrested . A few months after I arrested his brother Carl for burglary and his other brother Mick was untouchable! possibly the worst of the three but only my opinion, it was well known that he used to carry a shotgun in his car . Their mother thought she had lovely boys. Could not have happened on a better day friday 13th.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by claret2018 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:39 pm

Always sad when someone dies. RIP

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by DCWat » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:40 pm

darringtonclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:23 pm
I used to be a police officer in bingley! just after he was arrested . A few months after I arrested his brother Carl for burglary and his other brother Mick was untouchable! possibly the worst of the three but only my opinion, it was well known that he used to carry a shotgun in his car . Their mother thought she had lovely boys. Could not have happened on a better day friday 13th.
Mick was the worst of the two brothers, from my experience. I couldn't say either were worse than their murdering brother. Burglaries were probably at the lower end of some of the things they were up to though.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:30 am

groove wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:04 pm
I know Peter Sutcliffe was a bit dodgy but there's no need for some of the comments on this thread. He was a human being.
Bit late for a fishing trip.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by dsr » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:02 am

claret2018 wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:39 pm
Always sad when someone dies. RIP
Possibly the sickest quote on the whole thread.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:12 am

bodge wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:42 pm
How no one recognised his voice at the time is beyond me.
Everyone from Sunderland sounds like that.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Billy Balfour » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:36 am

Glad he's dead and it's a shame it didn't happen years ago. As for the couple attention seeking idiots - you're not clever or smart, just incredibly needy and profoundly inadequate.

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Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:50 am

dsr wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:02 am
Possibly the sickest quote on the whole thread.
I suppose someone was going to get reeled in by it, although I'm not sure this thread is one where fishing expeditions are appropriate.
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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:02 am

bodge wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:50 pm
The thing I can't get my head round with the whole Ripper business, was how no one recognised Wearside Jack's voice aka John Humble who died in July 2019.

It was on the tv and radio loads of times, didn't a voice analyst identify it came from a particular area of Sunderland ?

Sutcliffe was responsible for more attacks than those attributed to him or at least there is a lot of pointers to him being the perpetrator.
You could be from Durham, Chester le street, Sunderland etc, it’s very difficult to pinpoint the exact dialects for any normal person the voice analysts did conclude he was from the Castletown area of Sunderland after listening to the recording, even then you still need some sort of DNA to match & when the cold case was reviewed the gummed seal from the envelope was enough on a billion to 1 match, I think humble later on had provided the police in a unrelated incident with his DNA if he hadn’t to this day we wouldn’t have known wearside jacks identity.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:07 am

How anyone can come out with the comment RIP for this evil b@stard is pretty sick.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Bosscat » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:20 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:07 am
How anyone can come out with the comment RIP for this evil b@stard is pretty sick.
Not even DA would stoop that low Steve😒😒😒

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:29 am

Bosscat wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:20 am
Not even DA would stoop that low Steve😒😒😒
People on this thread have said it BC didnt take much notice who said it,but it's a pretty low thing to say...takes allsorts I suppose.:(

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by tim_noone » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:43 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:29 am
People on this thread have said it BC didnt take much notice who said it,but it's a pretty low thing to say...takes allsorts I suppose.:(

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:55 am

Some religions, Christianity being one, teach their followers to forgive others for their sins, so I personally wouldn’t call it sick for someone to say RIP.

I’m not religious and the world is a better place without this person, just offering a reason why some people may offer up a comment like this.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:55 am

tim_noone wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:43 am
Theres a first Timallybob was speechless!😂
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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by bodge » Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:51 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:12 am
Everyone from Sunderland sounds like that.
So if a family member or friend of yours was recorded on tape, you would think on hearing it, that's someone from Burnley rather than your "Uncle Alan" or my mate i go for a pint with every week ?

People's voices are all different, obviously accents are very similar. Anyway, clearly he wasn't recognised but i find it staggering.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:05 pm

bodge wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:51 pm
So if a family member or friend of yours was recorded on tape, you would think on hearing it, that's someone from Burnley rather than your "Uncle Alan" or my mate i go for a pint with every week ?

People's voices are all different, obviously accents are very similar. Anyway, clearly he wasn't recognised but i find it staggering.
I have just listened to the recording, it’s not very clear to decide if you knew that person, in my humble opinion.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:24 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:05 pm
I have just listened to the recording, it’s not very clear to decide if you knew that person, in my humble opinion.
Due to the nature of the recording it's logical to assume traces of disguise would have been applied, it's different when with a group of friends & it's somebody round & you say a pint of carling or whatever applicable.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:26 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:24 pm
Due to the nature of the recording it's logical to assume traces of disguise would have been applied, it's different when with a group of friends & it's somebody round & you say a pint of carling or whatever applicable.
In West Yorkshire, when I ask for a pint of Carling, they often give me a pint of Coors. Not sure what language Carling sounds like Coors to be honest! :)

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by DCWat » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:51 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:26 pm
In West Yorkshire, when I ask for a pint of Carling, they often give me a pint of Coors. Not sure what language Carling sounds like Coors to be honest! :)
They’re just trying to get you off the bloody Carling!!

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Marney&Mee » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:54 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:05 pm
I have just listened to the recording, it’s not very clear to decide if you knew that person, in my humble opinion.
Scuse the pun LBC...

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:44 pm

Doctors treating Peter Sutcliffe for Covid say he struggled to speak towards the end, despite them keeping him comfortable by holding a pillow over his face.
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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:07 pm

DCWat wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:56 pm
Carl or Mick? I’ve not seen either for years but I wouldn’t admit to being friends with either, unless they’ve changed their ways, which I doubt.
Keep your phone on, you might be invited to the funeral, my friend just got the call.

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Re: The Yorkshire Ripper

Post by dsr » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:30 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:07 pm
Keep your phone on, you might be invited to the funeral, my friend just got the call.
The problem with the funeral is that Covid means they can't hire a band, which means dancing on the grave will be much less fun.

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